Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (Steve Patterson's new legacy)

[FWHORN]

Originally posted by Ketchum:

Originally posted by HuffTex:

… Get over the Andrew Harrison post-game remark directed at Frank Kaminsky. The night as a whole wasn't exactly a good look for a guy that skipped the post-game handshake, despite having coaches implore him to return to the court, but do we really need to have this conversation about the double-standard that exists? I don't want to be preachy, but if it's double-standards that folks want to talk about, we could have a very long day of discussion that goes way beyond anything Harrison said on Saturday night.


Sorry, but this is the kind of double standard that is EXACTLY what keeps African-American's from getting the true equality they deserve. They don't get called out, hard and fast, WHEN it is clearly deserved. Nothing Harrison apologized about changes the fact that he a) said it, and b) it was wrong. Equality is a high standard, and it takes both sides.

a. Is it really that double standard that keeps African-Americans from getting true equality?

b. You are suggesting that black people don't get called out, and never hard and fast?

c. Yes, he said it. Yes, it was wrong. What is it that you think should happen to him? Should he be expelled?

where I think the double standard comes into play is, what if it were Wisconsin that lost and it was Kaminsky who uttered those exact same words under his breath about one of the UK players at the press conference? It would be riots and Ferguson all over again and the biggest giant poop storm on every news station for weeks on end. But since it happened the way it happened, we should just let it slide without any kind of punishment??

I'm not looking to lynch Harrison for what he said but for me, whatever someone thinks the punishment should have been if Kaminsky had said those words about a UK player, should be the same punishment that Harrison receives. The only path to true equality of the races is to make the reactions and the punishments for offenses like these, the same for all races.

 

[CS]

If you use a word to describe yourself, then you cede the right to be offended by its use.

 

[Never Nuff Horns]

Ketch -

I agree that many on this thread got entirely too worked up about your opinion on the comment, in fact I might even agree that the fact that it is swept under the rug a bit might actually represent progress on equity and treating things based on the context in which they were made.

However, I might also suggest that the n-word might be almost totally eradicated from the modern day lexicon were it not for its continued prevalence with the youth of modern black males. Clearly, you would probably always have those few incidents like at OU, but it seems to me when I hear that word it is only from the black community.

You would think that there might be more importance placed on the eradication of the word all together, and the casual way with which it is used today only continues to keep it in existence.

 

[Coach_Bass]

- Amazing how people refrain from talking about race or how it can quickly escalate. Maybe even more fascinating are the reasons why they do. I think its similar to being on sports teams. Just like on teams, you have different personalities and different positions but in the end they all have the same thing in common (team colors) trying to accomplish a goal. And just like on teams sometimes the entire team receives negative or positive publicity for actions/comments of a select few. Ex. How can one member of one team say something positive about another team without degrading his own team? Likewise how can someone say something really positive about his own team without degrading other teams? Or how can someone offer criticism of another team without sounding biased? Teams protect their own players and teams also have deep rooted rivalries. Being black is awesome, just like I'm sure being white is awesome along with all other races. Are there ugly things apart of all cultures? Sure... but how does one comment on those things and still perceived objective? That's where I believe we are right now.


- Patterson has been great at hiring both Charlie Strong and Chaka Smart. Outside of Nick Saban (who was a real or unreal possibility depending on who you speak to) Charlie Strong was the best available coach with a proven track record of excellence and Chaka Smart is the hottest name in college basketball below the all time greats i.e. Coach K, Izzo, Calipari, Williams, etc Both of these men are great who happen to be black. Honestly even though I am a proud fan I never imagined seeing a black head coach at Texas. Its pretty exciting to see something like that can actually happen in two major programs at my favorite university. Personally I would like to ask off camera how much, if any, of their success is tied to their race? Do they embrace or feel encouraged to embrace their race from topic of conversation? Do they feel obligated to try harder to succeed because of the lack of black coaches? Strong openly admits that he has been passed over for jobs, does that feed his hunger to succeed when finally given a chance? Or does race not play a role at all and they just feel like they're the best at what they do? I've had conversations with people who openly admit having no problem with race being included as apart of the reason, not the main reason of course, for these coaches being hired (Obama too). Not only are they deserving and accomplished but yes they are black and help create diversity among the coaching fraternity which can be viewed as a positive. I can understand that position andI would feel the same way about a qualified (insert another race) person taking over a predominantly black position.

- Chaka Smart is the man. Whether it was coach speak or valid points, I'm with you Ketch- he killed it. After watching that presser, Coach Smart has me eating out the palm of his hand lol. I've seen what he can do, I've heard about how awesome he is, now its time to see the pudding and I can't wait! I'm interested in seeing how he manipulates his strategy now that he is in a Power 5 conference and what types of players he recruits.


- Texas football has me totally dejected. All the signs point to another subpar year and the injury bug thats going around doesnt seem to help. I believe Swoopes will be better. I believe the O-Line will be better. I believe the defense will hold their own. However those beliefs do not translate into a 9 or 10 win season which is always hard to come to terms with.

- What Harrison said was stupid but it wasn't racist and thats the reason its "no big deal". Harrison is a 20 year old, coming off the most disappointing loss ever and he muttered something stupid. Really stupid. Really REALLY stupid. What he said is what thousands of young people say when they lose. However since he is better than those thousands at basketball his moment just came in front of a microphone. F--- that n---- is clearly out of frustration from the loss. His comments aren't toward an entire group of people. They aren't symbolic of some deep hatred that has been generationally instilled within his core values. They begin and end on the basketball court. Matter of fact, far worse things are said on the basketball court. He'll need to learn how to conduct himself in a press conference but again "no super-huge-mega-news-big deal".

Side Note: Dekker is a BALLER!!!

 

[Ketchum]

Originally posted by CS:

Trying to draw equivalency between "guy," "dude," and "nigga" is some of the dumbest shit I've ever seen from you. You're not that stupid, Geoff. Don't give people reasons to think you are.

In this context, that's exactly what it meant.

What do you think he meant when he used that word specifically?

 

[Sen. Blutarsky]

Originally posted by J Tull:
Maybe next Sunday you can focus on the actual coach and his likely tendencies and recruiting philosophies, etc. now that he is our coach. Personally I believe if he wins, skin color will be the last thing on most people's mind. Finally, Smart is not black...his mother is Caucasian white. Take another look at Smart shaking hands with Strong, and tell me they are both black. Smart got more of his mother's skin color, not that it matters.

Bottom line is we got a great coach who happens to be half white, half black... but far more importantly happens to be a winner.

You are 100% incorrect when you say "Smart is not black." Smart absolutely sees himself as a black person and black head coach. It doesn't matter when it comes to job performance, but it matters for his identity and how he sees himself. Coincidentally, he has taken the lead in helping other black coaches (regardless if half-white) since he just formed the National Association for Coaching Equity and Development with Tubby Smith.

The problem with this site is that the conservatives do exactly what they complain about liberals: they find outrage in any kind of slight. For the sake of peace, we can agree that the most downtrodden and discriminated individual in our country is the white male. We get it. Can we move on now or would you all like to continue to complain about the liberal media/Ketch? It would be nice to get back to sports.

 

[echeese]

Re: Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (Steve Patterson's new legac

Originally posted by Ketchum:

It's a tiring subject matter, but the battles that MLK marched for aren't yet completely decided. There's more work to do.

smh,



This coming from the guy who defended Trevon Martin? a guy who's "character" was shit. . . not unlike Brown in Ferguson . ..another case where you were quick to blast people . . . .

Yet when Eric Holder/Obama's Justice Dept published reports COMPLETELY exonerating the officer and COMPLETELY debunking "hands up don't shoot". . . .you and the rest of the liberal media tried to ignore it. . .

Not sure you have a clue what MLK stood for but it was NOT the victimization of an entire race .. . .


" .. . .I have a dream. . . . .that one day my children will be judged by the content of their character. . . not by the color of their skin. . . . ."
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[Ketchum]

Originally posted by FWHORN:

where I think the double standard comes into play is, what if it were Wisconsin that lost and it was Kaminsky who uttered those exact same words under his breath about one of the UK players at the press conference? It would be riots and Ferguson all over again and the biggest giant poop storm on every news station for weeks on end. But since it happened the way it happened, we should just let it slide without any kind of punishment??

I'm not looking to lynch Harrison for what he said but for me, whatever someone thinks the punishment should have been if Kaminsky had said those words about a UK player, should be the same punishment that Harrison receives. The only path to true equality of the races is to make the reactions and the punishments for offenses like these, the same for all races.

Thank goodness you're not looking to "lynch" Harrison for what he said.

 

[CS]

Originally posted by Ketchum:

Originally posted by CS:

Trying to draw equivalency between "guy," "dude," and "nigga" is some of the dumbest shit I've ever seen from you. You're not that stupid, Geoff. Don't give people reasons to think you are.

In this context, that's exactly what it meant.

What do you think he meant when he used that word specifically?

The point that you're missing is that it's not about what he meant, just like it's not about what anyone means when they say racially charged words. It's asinine to have a society where a single word gets to have nuance and context, but only when uttered by a person with a specific skin tone. I guarantee that white kids use that word and mean the same thing Harrison did, but they are treated very differently when they do.

Here's the deal: if we as a society are comfortable with "nigga" meaning the same thing as "guy" or "dude," then let's stop demonizing its use. Otherwise, stop saying it and be shouted down when you do. If you want equality, demand equality.

 

[Ketchum]

Originally posted by CS:
If you use a word to describe yourself, then you cede the right to be offended by its use.

So, a back person that uses the word in any shape, form or fashion doesn't have a right to be offended if someone from another race uses it as a slur against them?

Do I have that right?

 

[bexster]

Where's the Pulpit?????!!!!!

 

[CS]

Originally posted by Ketchum:

Originally posted by CS:
If you use a word to describe yourself, then you cede the right to be offended by its use.

So, a back person that uses the word in any shape, form or fashion doesn't have a right to be offended if someone from another race uses it as a slur against them?

Do I have that right?

That's right. And if a white guy goes around calling himself and his friends crackas, he doesn't have the right to be offended if a black guy does the same. It's basically the Golden Rule.

 

[Chewy1119]

Re: Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (Steve Patterson's new legac

A majority of athletes in basketball and football are African American, and it has been so for at least 25-30 years.

Meanwhile African American head coaches make up a startling minority. Something does not add up.
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[Ketchum]

Re: Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (Steve Patterson's new legac

Originally posted by echeese:

Originally posted by Ketchum:

It's a tiring subject matter, but the battles that MLK marched for aren't yet completely decided. There's more work to do.

smh,

Pretty much says it all. That and the fact that you have twice slandered a teenage boy that was murdered by a known criminal.

Good day.

 

[RLong68]

Re: Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (Steve Patterson's new legac

Comparing Towns to Bynum is a bit humorous. He's light years a better prospect. FWIW, I think Towns is a superior prospect to Okafor.

 

[deserthorn1955]

I thought the 'known criminal's' case went to the grand jury and the returned a no-charges indictment?

 

[Veritas10]

VCU has a history of turning out hot young coaches (Jeff Capel, Anthony Grant) that flame out at the next level. Hoping that Shaka is the first success instead of the latest failure.

 

[Chewy1119]

Re: Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (Steve Patterson's new legac

Originally posted by RLong68:
Comparing Towns to Bynum is a bit humorous. He's light years a better prospect. FWIW, I think Towns is a superior prospect to Okafor.

I think Okafor gets the nod mainly because his body is already filled out
Posted from Rivals Mobile

 

[Ketchum]

Originally posted by CS:

The point that you're missing is that it's not about what he meant, just like it's not about what anyone means when they say racially charged words. It's asinine to have a society where a single word gets to have nuance and context, but only when uttered by a person with a specific skin tone. I guarantee that white kids use that word and mean the same thing Harrison did, but they are treated very differently when they do.

a. I would argue that intent absolutely matters, all the time.

b. Lots of words have nuance in our society and not just whhen you used by a specific skin tone.

c. I'm slightly surprised that someone as smart as yourself has taken a few of the positions you've taken.




Originally posted by CS:

Here's the deal: if we as a society are comfortable with "nigga" meaning the same thing as "guy" or "dude," then let's stop demonizing its use. Otherwise, stop saying it and be shouted down when you do. If you want equality, demand equality.[/QUOTE]
As a society, we're not comfortable with much that relates to race.

The use of the n-word is much more complicated discussion than I'm prepared to have with you this morning.

You've made your points clear. Have a good one.

 

[RLong68]

Re: Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (Steve Patterson's new legac

Originally posted by Chewy1119:

Originally posted by RLong68:
Comparing Towns to Bynum is a bit humorous. He's light years a better prospect. FWIW, I think Towns is a superior prospect to Okafor.

I think Okafor gets the nod mainly because his body is already filled out
Posted from Rivals Mobile

That might make him "more ready" in years 1 or 2, but IMO, Towns will blow past him. I like Okafor, but he's a terrible post defender, not terribly athletic and certainly looks like he could continue "filling out" in a not so good way.

 

[Ketchum]

Re: Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (Steve Patterson's new legac

Originally posted by Chewy1119:
A majority of athletes in basketball and football are African American, and it has been so for at least 25-30 years.

Meanwhile African American head coaches make up a startling minority. Something does not add up.
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Apparently, they aren't trying to get GA positions as young coaches coming up and that's the only answer to the problem...

 

[RLong68]

Re: Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (Steve Patterson's new legac

Biggest things the Harrison a**holes and Cauley-Stein should be buried for is their appalling lack of sportsmanship. Fortunately for Aaron and the Human Tattoo, Andrew took his a**shole game up 10 notches with the PC crack.

 

[Ketchum]

Originally posted by CS:

Originally posted by Ketchum:

Originally posted by CS:
If you use a word to describe yourself, then you cede the right to be offended by its use.

So, a back person that uses the word in any shape, form or fashion doesn't have a right to be offended if someone from another race uses it as a slur against them?

Do I have that right?

That's right. And if a white guy goes around calling himself and his friends crackas, he doesn't have the right to be offended if a black guy does the same. It's basically the Golden Rule.

So, cracka and the n-word are the same?

 

[Ketchum]

Re: Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (Steve Patterson's new legac

Originally posted by RLong68:
Comparing Towns to Bynum is a bit humorous. He's light years a better prospect. FWIW, I think Towns is a superior prospect to Okafor.

You think he's light years better than Bynum as a prospect?

Light years?

 

[RLong68]

Originally posted by Ketchum:

Originally posted by CS:

Originally posted by Ketchum:

Originally posted by CS:
If you use a word to describe yourself, then you cede the right to be offended by its use.

So, a back person that uses the word in any shape, form or fashion doesn't have a right to be offended if someone from another race uses it as a slur against them?

Do I have that right?

That's right. And if a white guy goes around calling himself and his friends crackas, he doesn't have the right to be offended if a black guy does the same. It's basically the Golden Rule.

So, cracka and the n-word are the same?

I think one is really splitting hairs to argue they aren't. Both are used in normally a derogatory fashion based on race.

 

[Ketchum]

Originally posted by deserthorn1955:
I thought the 'known criminal's' case went to the grand jury and the returned a no-charges indictment?

You used quotes around the words "known criminal", as if we don't know that Zimmerman has been arrested more times than I can keep count of.

And yes, there was a no-charges indictment.

Are you really riding for Zimmerman?

 

[Ketchum]

Originally posted by Veritas10:
VCU has a history of turning out hot young coaches (Jeff Capel, Anthony Grant) that flame out at the next level. Hoping that Shaka is the first success instead of the latest failure.

To be fair, that's a very small sample size and there are circumstances with each case that don't really relate to Smart and his new position

 

[echeese]

Re: Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (Steve Patterson's new legac

Originally posted by Ketchum:

Originally posted by echeese:

Originally posted by Ketchum:

It's a tiring subject matter, but the battles that MLK marched for aren't yet completely decided. There's more work to do.

smh,

Pretty much says it all. That and the fact that you have twice slandered a teenage boy that was murdered by a known criminal.

Good day.

Here's a picture of the back of Zimmerman's head which was being pounded into the ground:

His front

After 2 years, despite pressure from the White House, Eric Holder's Justice Dept has found no grounds to support the claims made by the media. . . . .


In the Ferguson case, that same justice dept COMPLETELY EXONERATED the officer involved and COMPLETELY DEBUNKED the "hands up don't shoot" claims. . .. .


Face it Ketch. .. .you were wrong. . . . .it's OK to admit it. . . . . .most of knee jerk, low information, sound byte America was wrong too. . . .


Though I do find it ironic that you whine about "selecting a small part of a write up" as you "defense" to others yet you isolate 1 line of my comments . . .. why is it OK for you to do that same thing you are complaining about?

 

[Ketchum]

Re: Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (Steve Patterson's new legac

Originally posted by RLong68:
Biggest things the Harrison a**holes and Cauley-Stein should be buried for is their appalling lack of sportsmanship. Fortunately for Aaron and the Human Tattoo, Andrew took his a**shole game up 10 notches with the PC crack.

Totally agree.

 

[Ketchum]

Originally posted by RLong68:

Originally posted by Ketchum:

Originally posted by CS:

Originally posted by Ketchum:

Originally posted by CS:
If you use a word to describe yourself, then you cede the right to be offended by its use.

So, a back person that uses the word in any shape, form or fashion doesn't have a right to be offended if someone from another race uses it as a slur against them?

Do I have that right?

That's right. And if a white guy goes around calling himself and his friends crackas, he doesn't have the right to be offended if a black guy does the same. It's basically the Golden Rule.

So, cracka and the n-word are the same?

I think one is really splitting hairs to argue they aren't. Both are used in normally a derogatory fashion based on race.

One is the most racially charged word in the English language and the other is a word that I've never really heard a white person get upset about and doesn't have nearly the history of nasty and murderous images that come with it.

Other than that, I guess the two words are the same.