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Check this out. We're now at the point where we have more deaths from Covid vaccines than from Covid.


Check this out: that's a bunch of bullshit. Per the CDC:



Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 339 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through July 19, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 6,207 reports of death (0.0018%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS, a rare and serious adverse event—blood clots with low platelets—which has caused deaths.


The deaths they are talking about in the last sentence are the THREE deaths believed to have been caused by the Johnson and Johnson vaccine.

That's right: as usual, Gateway Pundit is intentionally posting false information.
 
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Check this out: that's a bunch of bullshit. Per the CDC:



Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 339 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through July 19, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 6,207 reports of death (0.0018%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS, a rare and serious adverse event—blood clots with low platelets—which has caused deaths.


The deaths they are talking about in the last sentence are the THREE deaths believed to have been caused by the Johnson and Johnson vaccine.

That's right: as usual, Gateway Pundit is intentionally posting false information.
You do realize Ernest Tubb would be laughing at Covid hoax too right? You should change your avatar if you’re going to post nonsense.
 
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Check this out: that's a bunch of bullshit. Per the CDC:



Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 339 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through July 19, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 6,207 reports of death (0.0018%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS, a rare and serious adverse event—blood clots with low platelets—which has caused deaths.


The deaths they are talking about in the last sentence are the THREE deaths believed to have been caused by the Johnson and Johnson vaccine.

That's right: as usual, Gateway Pundit is intentionally posting false information.
So you believe everything the CDC puts out? You really believe all the Covid-19 stats they push. The truth is there’s about a .01% chance at best of dying from Covid. There’s also a .01% chance at best of dying from the vaccines. So why take the vaccine? We’re much better off taking our chances without the vaccine and building our immunities naturally. If you don’t believe that we’re constantly being lied to about Covid by our government then you’re being extremely naive my friend.
 

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So you believe everything the CDC puts out? You really believe all the Covid-19 stats they push. The truth is there’s about a .01% chance at best of dying from Covid. There’s also a .01% chance at best of dying from the vaccines. So why take the vaccine? We’re much better off taking our chances without the vaccine and building our immunities naturally. If you don’t believe that we’re constantly being lied to about Covid by our government then you’re being extremely naive my friend.


YOU cited the VAERS statistics, which come from the CDC. Are the VAERS statistics that you cited accurate or not?
 

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So you believe everything the CDC puts out? You really believe all the Covid-19 stats they push. The truth is there’s about a .01% chance at best of dying from Covid. There’s also a .01% chance at best of dying from the vaccines. So why take the vaccine? We’re much better off taking our chances without the vaccine and building our immunities naturally. If you don’t believe that we’re constantly being lied to about Covid by our government then you’re being extremely naive my friend.

Some people have no commonsense and can't think for themselves. :rolleyes:
 

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VAERS are way under reported and covid19 are exaggerated


Tell that to Drtxhorn. He's the one who linked to the VAERS report. I just responded by saying that Gateway Pundit's analysis of that report is mistaken. But yeah, if you have a problem with the VAERS report, take up with @Drtxhorn . I just happened to drive by and respond.
 

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Tell that to Drtxhorn. He's the one who linked to the VAERS report. I just responded by saying that Gateway Pundit's analysis of that report is mistaken. But yeah, if you have a problem with the VAERS report, take up with @Drtxhorn . I just happened to drive by and respond.
You have it backwards. The CDC gets their vaccine death stats from VAERS not the other way around. CDC doesn’t control the VAERS reporting and metrics.

Now that the vaccine related deaths have been skyrocketing over the past month, CDC is suddenly not recognizing all of the VEARS statistics. Last week they claim there were only 265 vaccine deaths after weeks where we consistently had thousands of deaths each week. The fact is they’re fudging the numbers from VAERS and nobody is calling them out or questioning them.

 

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We can put this away forever if you people will just get a f****** vaccination. The republican leadership has finally started to tell their constituents to get vaccinated no more excuses.
 

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You go Cali!
If only we would follow the california lead!
More free sh!t, more crap on sidewalks, fewer police and more crime...
Yeah, you've got something there...
 

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We can put this away forever if you people will just get a f****** vaccination. The republican leadership has finally started to tell their constituents to get vaccinated no more excuses.
Hey @outhereincali "Where's Hunter?" Oh nevermind here is is with his greasy ass dad being implicated in the Burisma pay to play scheme. All of their lies are being exposed. Let's hear you be the first to stand up and call for impeachment for this corrupt swamp monster not to mention the Covid hoax lies he's telling the American people in order to destroy the economy/country.
https://nypost.com/2021/07/23/vp-joe-biden-skirted-no-see-mail-law-with-private-accounts-devine/
 

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We can put this away forever if you people will just get a f****** vaccination. The republican leadership has finally started to tell their constituents to get vaccinated no more excuses.
Sorry @outhereincali, not getting the vaccine, as a matter of fact I will be hosting super spreader event after super spreader event to promote Covid hoax herd immunity. Unlike you I follow the science and the science tells me the "vaccine" is not legit nor needed. Bill Gates thanks you for being his personal guinea pig though.
 
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We can put this away forever if you people will just get a f****** vaccination. The republican leadership has finally started to tell their constituents to get vaccinated no more excuses.

Come one man. Keep your whack liberal nonsense in the abortion of the state that you live in. This is Texas. We think for ourselves here and don't allow the media and government to influence and dictate our lives. You should trying thinking on your own some time. It's very liberating. And HELL NO I'm not getting that vaccine!
 

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Fine and as long you guys carry on with this charade longer we'll have to wear them, the more reported cases, and the more causalities we'll have. I mean FL said no more masks in March and now there there were 14, 000 reported cases this week. Make a sacrifice for you and help others the shots don't hurt and they're free.
 

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Fine and as long you guys carry on with this charade longer we'll have to wear them, the more reported cases, and the more causalities we'll have. I mean FL said no more masks in March and now there there were 14, 000 reported cases this week. Make a sacrifice for you and help others the shots don't hurt and they're free.
Cases--- now do deaths. The more people that catch the virus and survive means the fewer people paying for a shot.

Natural immunity is better than shot immunity.

Who cares who gets the flu. We only care who dies of it. Deaths are down.
 

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Cases--- now do deaths. The more people that catch the virus and survive means the fewer people paying for a shot.

Natural immunity is better than shot immunity.

Who cares who gets the flu. We only care who dies of it. Deaths are down.
While deaths and debilitating reactions to the mRna vaccine are way up, they skipped the animal trials because they knew this would happen.
 
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Fine and as long you guys carry on with this charade longer we'll have to wear them, the more reported cases, and the more causalities we'll have. I mean FL said no more masks in March and now there there were 14, 000 reported cases this week. Make a sacrifice for you and help others the shots don't hurt and they're free.
But I thought people were getting the “vaccine” so they wouldn’t get Covid hoax but now we’re hearing about double vaxxed people getting the covid hoax? Sounds to me like the “vaccine’ is nothing more than a yearly flu shot that are hit or miss as you know. You may want to ask Bill Gates if yours has a warranty or not.at some point the sheeple will be forced to turn on their master when they finally admit to themselves they’ve been played.
 

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@outhereincali is their test monkey and a very compliant one.
Compliance … close down churches and libraries, mask up at all times unless eating, no more than 3 households may gather and gatherings must be held outside, you are discouraged to sing during the holidays … all rules put in place by the CA God-like government during the past Xmas holidays.
Pretty much China. Except this was CA. Compliance. Our own citizens fall in line.
 

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You have it backwards. The CDC gets their vaccine death stats from VAERS not the other way around. CDC doesn’t control the VAERS reporting and metrics.

Now that the vaccine related deaths have been skyrocketing over the past month, CDC is suddenly not recognizing all of the VEARS statistics. Last week they claim there were only 265 vaccine deaths after weeks where we consistently had thousands of deaths each week. The fact is they’re fudging the numbers from VAERS and nobody is calling them out or questioning them.


So I'm reading this article and it says "The VAERS database contains information on unverified reports of adverse events (illnesses, health problems and/or symptoms) following immunization with US-licensed vaccines." Then it says “The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) database contains information on unverified reports of adverse events (illnesses, health problems and/or symptoms) following immunization with US-licensed vaccines. Reports are accepted from anyone and can be submitted electronically at www.vaers.hhs.gov.”

Aparently anyone can log on and submit a claim and they do not verify the claims. For those of you who can think for themselves please tell me why we should believe this information is anywhere close to accurate? Serious question and not trying to start an argument.
 

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We can put this away forever if you people will just get a f****** vaccination. The republican leadership has finally started to tell their constituents to get vaccinated no more excuses.


Yup. Instead the Emergency Rooms are beginning to fill up again. I play darts with a couple of doctors from Seton and they are just shaking their damn heads. As of Tuesday night, every Covid case they had was an unvaccinated person ... and Travis county is 61% vaccinated. You do the math.
 
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So I'm reading this article and it says "The VAERS database contains information on unverified reports of adverse events (illnesses, health problems and/or symptoms) following immunization with US-licensed vaccines." Then it says “The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) database contains information on unverified reports of adverse events (illnesses, health problems and/or symptoms) following immunization with US-licensed vaccines. Reports are accepted from anyone and can be submitted electronically at www.vaers.hhs.gov.”

Aparently anyone can log on and submit a claim and they do not verify the claims. For those of you who can think for themselves please tell me why we should believe this information is anywhere close to accurate? Serious question and not trying to start an argument.
Yeah vaers is pretty much the wikipedia of vaccinations. I dont trust it anymore or less than I trust the gov.
The funny part is that the cdc links directly to it and references it religiously until the numbers started to equalise so NOW it's unreliable. Really, there's nobody in public you should fully trust. It's your life and only your decisions should matter.

Look, I've taken more vaccines for regional crap than I can count but I do my own research and weight the potential risks vs benefits for my family and I. Using their own data, I am not a high risk even if I do catch the bug if I havn't already. According to Dr F's own emails, masks don't do anything much more than serve as a placebo spit guard and the double vaxxed people are catching the new variants so I see no benefit in taking a poke that might harm me as much as potentially protect me. Why add unproven double risk?

I lost both grandparents, 1 uncle, & 1 cousin last year with covid and they all were either old or had other issues. Both my parents are vaxxed and I think they made the right decision for their personal situation.

Remember, big pharma doesn't make money on a healthy population.
 

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Remember the Spanish Flu? Remember Polio? Remember Rubella? Remember Small Pox?
Do not make me Waltz across Texas to challenge your position on this. The Texas Troubadour is rolling in his grave reading your posts. Surly you are not equating legit pandemics to Covid hoax? I don’t know many folks that have contracted Polio or Small Pox after being vaccinated do you? Not having these vaccines fully FDA approved are probably not helping your cause.
 
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So I'm reading this article and it says "The VAERS database contains information on unverified reports of adverse events (illnesses, health problems and/or symptoms) following immunization with US-licensed vaccines." Then it says “The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) database contains information on unverified reports of adverse events (illnesses, health problems and/or symptoms) following immunization with US-licensed vaccines. Reports are accepted from anyone and can be submitted electronically at www.vaers.hhs.gov.”

Aparently anyone can log on and submit a claim and they do not verify the claims. For those of you who can think for themselves please tell me why we should believe this information is anywhere close to accurate? Serious question and not trying to start an argument.
Best way to think about it is “under reported”. Thus, theoretically, there are way more adverse reactions to the covid vaccine than is being reported. In regular prescription drug intake, there is around an 80% under reporting of adverse drug reactions (ADR). One thing to keep in mind, is that the more serious the adverse reaction, the more likely there will be a hospital intervention whereby there is a high likelihood of an official ADR filing. I see no evidence that the VAERS is any different. Most people may tough it out or complain to family members or friends, but won't bother to report the official incident. There is so much more to add, but I am short on time.
 

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Fine and as long you guys carry on with this charade longer we'll have to wear them, the more reported cases, and the more causalities we'll have. I mean FL said no more masks in March and now there there were 14, 000 reported cases this week. Make a sacrifice for you and help others the shots don't hurt and they're free.
I had no idea Joe Biden posted here until now
 
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Remember the Spanish Flu? Remember Polio? Remember Rubella? Remember Small Pox?
Spanish flu-- no, I don't. And neither do you. You weren't around. Polio? No-- wasn't around for that either.
Rubella? You mean the German measles that nearly wiped out Rome in 165 AD? No, I don't remember that one either.
Small pox? Like the plague of Europe on the 16th century? Nope. Don't remember living through that either.

Bro-- are you a vampire? How'd you see all this?

Let's be real-- covid is a cull. Yup. I said it. Every animal in the animal kingdom practices Darwinism except humans. We are the only species that protects the weak and sick. Lions born blind, die. Impalas born with 3 legs get eaten. Rapidly. Fat fvcking Americans that jam processed food and sodas down their throat daily get diabetes. Lazy bums that don't exercise get heart and respiratory problems. Smokers, boozers, sedentary lifestyle seekers, fast food eating, coca-cola swilling over weight lard asses finally had to pay the piper. Many of these folks were already on their way out, Covid just sped up the clock.

Don't like the truth? Stop reading, because it's about to get worse. Prepare to get your feeewings hurt-

We humans think we're so fvcking smart. We aren't. Look around you. All the life around you that you see represents only 3% of all species that have EVER existed on this planet. The other 97% of species were murdered by this planet. Wooly mammoths, Do Do birds, raptors, T-Rex--- all gone. This planet grew tired of them for one reason or another and did them in. We have the hubris to believe that our big brains can manipulate mother nature. We think we can change this planet, control diseases, save the planet from carbon that, oh btw, this planet MADE all those fossil fuels. Yup, fossil fuels are 100% organic. No matter what we do, when this planet is finished with us, she'll shake us off and start over-- probably with the insects next.

So along comes this obviously man made virus from a lab in Wuhan-- or if you're fvcking stooopid-- and prefer I go with a bat fvcking a pangolin in a wet market, fine-- I'll play along with your little fantasy. So here comes this virus that, if you're younger than 60, you've got about the same odds of dying of this as you do the normal flu. If you're under 60 and HEALTHY, you're about as likely to die of covid as you are drowning in a swimming pool or falling off a ladder.

So this is no big deal unless you're OLD, fat, sick, or weak. And in true reverse Darwinism form, we humans shut down the world to protect the old, fat, sick and weak---- because we're so fvcking smart.....

As far as all this virtue signal mask wearing fear porn, let's be realistic. If you're healthy and afraid of covid, you're just a pvssy. That's all it is. You're a big fat coward female organ. You live in fear daily. How do you drive to work being afraid of everything that has a .0001% chance of killing you. Cars kill more people than covid killed kids. Far more. An order of magnitude more.

I'm not afraid. I've been a lifelong chronic asthmatic and I was literally licking counter tops trying to GET covid so that after I kicked its ass, I could walk around with both middle fingers out mocking all the pvssies. And when I got it, and didn't even know it, then beat it without knowing I had it-- that's exactly what I've done. The liars that are the CDC and Dr. Fauci told me unequivocally that people with chronic respiratory diseases would likely die from covid. Well here I am, living breathing proof that they were as full of sh!t as Tesla buyers.

So you do you, female organ style. Fear porn it up. Wear your mask until you die from bacterial strep pneumonia. I'll show up to your funeral and apologize to your family for you being such a pvssy and then mock them for associating with you.

I refuse to be afraid. You should try it once in your life.


Clob out.
 
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Well I posted significant survival stats earlier in this thread, those are pretty significant evidence in debunking the mortality rates of Covid claimed on here.


I meant anything in response to what I said about VAERS, the GateWay Pundit's analysis etc... Because that is the only thing that I addressed.
 
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