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Coming Out For the Draft

FlourBluffHorn

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Truth be Told!

http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2019/s...135-forgo-college-eligibility-enter-nfl-draft

NEW YORK -- A record number of college football players are bypassing their remaining years of eligibility to enter the NFL draft.

The 135 players forgoing eligibility surpasses the 119 from last year. The NFL released the official list on Friday. There are 103 underclassmen eligible for the April 25-27 draft. Another 32 players have graduated but still have college eligibility.

Since 2014, at least 95 underclassmen entered the draft without completing their degrees in every season but 2015, when the number was 74.

"It is not a good situation," said former Dallas Cowboys executive Gil Brandt, who now works for the NFL Network.

Brandt said too many players who are not ready to compete in the NFL are swayed by agents to enter the draft. He said offensive linemen and quarterbacks in particular can usually benefit from more college seasoning.

"When we start taking all these guys, they're doing the colleges a disservice; they're doing the players a disservice," Brandt said.
 
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A lot of these guys are going to have to go undrafted for a few years in order for this to stop.
 
The NFL sent their recommendation back to Texas regarding our early entries---- all were greeted with the same message: go back to school.
 
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The NFL sent their recommendation back to Texas regarding our early entries---- all were greeted with the same message: go back to school.

It seems like an easy solution. Any kid with less than 4 years out of high school who throws his name in the hat for the draft is graded by an objective committee. If they determine he needs another year to develop, he’s not allowed to enter the draft.

They say stay in school, you stay in school.

Is there a reason this wouldn’t work?
 
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According to information obtained by Horns247.com through an open-records request, Texas had four underclassmen — Humphrey, junior receiver Collin Johnson, junior linebacker and defensive lineman Malcolm Roach and junior safety Brandon Jones — seek feedback from the NFL College Advisory Committee about their prospects for this year's NFL Draft, and all four were advised to stay in school.

All I know is LJH made a mistake good luck though he will be an undrafted free agent and land on someone practice squad or better yet go to the CFL and never be heard from again or play here in Dallas when the XFL starts up again.
 
The college advisory board only makes 3 recommendations - potential 1st round pick, potential second round pick or neither. If Humphrey can run between a 4.5-4.6 in the 40 he should be a 3rd-5th round pick based on his game film from this year and previous draft history. If he is between 4.6-4.7 its probably 6th or 7th round. Anything slower than that is undrafted.
 
The college advisory board only makes 3 recommendations - potential 1st round pick, potential second round pick or neither. If Humphrey can run between a 4.5-4.6 in the 40 he should be a 3rd-5th round pick based on his game film from this year and previous draft history. If he is between 4.6-4.7 its probably 6th or 7th round. Anything slower than that is undrafted.
He should prepare himself to be 4th-5th rounder at best.
 
Holton Hill has/had drug problems and Chris Warren couldn't play. Humphrey can play but there are questions about his speed. First and second round guys are running in the 4.3-4.4 range. We all know that Humphrey is not anywhere near that fast. If he gets a good speed coach and runs under 4.6 legit he has a good shot at getting drafted. If its slower than 4.6 he better turn into a workout warrior and look amazing in front of the scouts.
 
Holton Hill has/had drug problems and Chris Warren couldn't play. Humphrey can play but there are questions about his speed. First and second round guys are running in the 4.3-4.4 range. We all know that Humphrey is not anywhere near that fast. If he gets a good speed coach and runs under 4.6 legit he has a good shot at getting drafted. If its slower than 4.6 he better turn into a workout warrior and look amazing in front of the scouts.

https://www.vikings.com/team/players-roster/holton-hill/
 
Yes, Hill went undrafted because of off the field problems. Its reported that he failed multiple drug test. I don't think Humphrey has those issues and his game film is light years ahead of anything that Chris Warren had.
 
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Yes, Hill went undrafted because of off the field problems. Its reported that he failed multiple drug test. I don't think Humphrey has those issues and his game film is light years ahead of anything that Chris Warren had.

Yes might have failed so many drug test but he is on a roster playing
 
Yes might have failed so many drug test but he is on a roster playing
Correct but I believe the intent of the original statement was to insinuate that Humphrey would go undrafted like Hill and Warren and it is my contention is that he is a much better player than Warren and doesn't have the same off the field issues as Hill. If his speed was the major issue I don't think another year in school will help him out and I do believe Humphrey will be a later round draft pick if he has a decent 40 time and if he manages to stay out of trouble.
 
It seems like an easy solution. Any kid with less than 4 years out of high school who throws his name in the hat for the draft is graded by an objective committee. If they determine he needs another year to develop, he’s not allowed to enter the draft.

They say stay in school, you stay in school.

Is there a reason this wouldn’t work?


Cause half of them aren't ready to go, but, they damn sure see the Big Money!...Blinding isn't it?
 
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Correct but I believe the intent of the original statement was to insinuate that Humphrey would go undrafted like Hill and Warren and it is my contention is that he is a much better player than Warren and doesn't have the same off the field issues as Hill. If his speed was the major issue I don't think another year in school will help him out and I do believe Humphrey will be a later round draft pick if he has a decent 40 time and if he manages to stay out of trouble.

One more year would of helped him at least would of got him drafted in earlier rounds.
 
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Holton Hill has/had drug problems and Chris Warren couldn't play. Humphrey can play but there are questions about his speed. First and second round guys are running in the 4.3-4.4 range. We all know that Humphrey is not anywhere near that fast. If he gets a good speed coach and runs under 4.6 legit he has a good shot at getting drafted. If its slower than 4.6 he better turn into a workout warrior and look amazing in front of the scouts.
The vast majority of 1st round receivers don't run sub 4.4 at the combine. And receivers LJH's size who have run a sub 4.4 at the combine is tiny. That is elite speed, and those guys are very few and far between. If LJH runs a 4.6 or better, I will be really surprised. He'll probably be closer to 4.7 than 4.6, but I still think he gets drafted day 3. He is pretty good and has nice size. He has a chance to be a decent player in the league, and he wasn't gonna get much faster if he waited a year. He doesn't have a high NFL ceiling, so he might as well bet on himself.
 
The vast majority of 1st round receivers don't run sub 4.4 at the combine. And receivers LJH's size who have run a sub 4.4 at the combine is tiny. That is elite speed, and those guys are very few and far between. If LJH runs a 4.6 or better, I will be really surprised. He'll probably be closer to 4.7 than 4.6, but I still think he gets drafted day 3. He is pretty good and has nice size. He has a chance to be a decent player in the league, and he wasn't gonna get much faster if he waited a year. He doesn't have a high NFL ceiling, so he might as well bet on himself.
God forbid he spend another year in college learning how to run more precise routes in order to compensate for his lack of speed.
 
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God forbid he spend another year in college learning how to run more precise routes in order to compensate for his lack of speed.
He had almost 90 catches and 1200 yards this year. With the way the league is trending with high powered high scoring offenses some team will find a spot to plug him in. I mean it’s not like he is an undersized guy. What he lacks in route running he will make up for with his good hands and physicality.
 
God forbid he spend another year in college learning how to run more precise routes in order to compensate for his lack of speed.
It might have helped him to stay. I just don't think he was stupid for going. If speed is his issue, that won't change much. He has some dog in him, I like him.
 
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I agree with mm here. The improvements he may or may not make can be learned without college. Right now he’s healthy, big, athletic and can catch. He’ll make a team and I think he’ll have a solid NFL career.
 
Belitnikoff...Rice, Irving......none of those guys were fast, but they could catch and ran great routes.....and....are in the HOF. A pro QB will throw the ball to the guy he knows will come down with it. Rice rarely caught a ball behind the defense....but he always caught it.....generally over the middle
 
So Lil Jordan Humphrey should of stayed in school instead goes against the NFL to stay in school.

Former Texas Longhorns star Lil'Jordan Humphrey saw his stock drop Saturday at the NFL Combine after he posted unofficial 4.79 and 4.75 40-yard-dashes, the worst of any wide receiver who ran in Indianapolis.

Good luck kid see you in the aaf
 
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So what’s the deal here? Did he just get tired of school? As mentioned above, it’s not an issue of leaving early to get a paycheck to help out at home. Did he think his draft grade was wrong?
 
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