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Discussion in 'Longhorn Sports' started by madcow12, Oct 13, 2018.
Is this good?
I’d say no. Sprained mine my freshman year and was out 4 or 5 weeks and redshirted. It was very painful.
I’d add Sam is probably tougher than I was though.
Ya and being his throwing arm that is not good either
I read they think it’s a grade 1 sprain.
That would be really good news then if it’s only grade 1
Won't really know until the MRI.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but, my experience is that shoulders are difficult to heal. It usually isn't a quick thing. I saw Sam walking back from the tunnel and he was not moving his right arm at all. It wouldn't surprise me if he is out the rest of the regular season. I am not saying that is the case, but, simply that it wouldn't surprise me.
"I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but, my experience is that shoulders are difficult to heal. It usually isn't a quick thing. I saw Sam walking back from the tunnel and he was not moving his right arm at all. It wouldn't surprise me if he is out the rest of the regular season. I am not saying that is the case, but, simply that it wouldn't surprise me."
From someone from West Texas.....i would've pegged you as. ......well.....not a puss.
Sam is a pretty tough kid. We should just wait for the MRI results and quit speculating
MRI's are so overrated
I hope everything turns out good for the young man and he can return soon. Just glad to have a good backup.
If we are without Sam, Vegas will not adjust quickly. For 1 or 2 games we will not cover for sure, then they will adjust.
MRI is the only way to image a soft tissue injury. Stretched ligaments, grade 1, partially torn ligaments grade 2.
my point still stands (not my point just what the evidence based research shows)
Why don't we not speculate on our win loss record till the season is over. Good grief. Speculating and BS'ing about Texas is what this site does 24-7.
Yeah but what about his polygraph test?
The bye week couldn't have come at a better time.
MRI can produce a diagnostic advantage but they cost a lot and aren't readily available to the average person. That doesn't apply in this situation
Texas Has a bye ....he’ll be back for next game.
Even if he is back, will our offense be the same? Quite frankly, the QB power run game has been the best thing about our offense. You'd have to think we'd have to ease up on that to protect Sam from from further injury. If we do that, it hurts the passing game and the RBs because we lose the threat of the QB run.
If we have Shane for any amount of time, 1) We are going to lose some games, no doubt, and 2)he's going to end up hurt, too.
So, why do some have a problem with mixing a freshman in to get him ready? More than likely, we're going to be forced to play a freshman anyway, and I don't believe either one can be worse than Shane. Sorry but I'm willing take my chances instead of just sit there hoping Shane suddenly by some miracle becomes a QB.
Clemson chose a freshman. Georgia wishes their coach would choose the freshman. Yeah those were highly rated QBs, but they're still freshmen, and our guys were pretty damn highly rated, too.
Everyone needs to be careful what they wish for regarding playing the freshmen QBs.
Why? Because one of them might be a pleasant surprise when we already know Shane is terrible, and we'd rather take a chance than go on an inevitable losing streak?
Even if Sam is able to come back then how many hits can he take on that shoulder and he will get hit and prolong his injury recover time.My guess it will also affect his throwing ability.Sam is a tough guy but what is in the best interest of Sam.You may not like the back-ups but they can play and that should be the direction at this time.
Ya, we're about to lose some games. We don't have a quality back up. That's on the coaches.
To be clear, that's not on these coaches, who clearly are bringing in better QB prospects. That's on the previous staff, who gave us Shane Beuchele. Yes they got Sam, but nobody else for depth. Would've been nice to at least offer Brewer.
Really,I think we can win with Shane.If the other 21 players on the field do their jobs Im not throwing in the towel. In fact, that should be the real key if we win or lose.
You sure are confident in a player we have never seen play. Ever stop to think that they might be worse than Shane and are the 3rd and 4th string for a reason?
Well our offensive coaches are about to earn their pay. You have 2 weeks to find a solution, fellas. We’re 6-1 and in the top 10. Find it.
It’s on Herman.
How do you not get it? It's not confidence in the freshmen. It's complete lack of confidence in Shane. Being willing to try something new that might not fail, over something known that absolutely will fail.
They're 3rd and 4th string because they're freshmen. That's it. No need to wonder.
Concerning Rising, I had read that he was a dude. Can make every throw, has a really live arm. Can run just fine. Has the it factor. I’m willing to see Thompson play with an open mind though. Let them battle it out.
After Maryland everyone just knew that Shane had to be better. Well that didn’t turn out well. Maybe the coaches who watch everyone during practice knows a little more than us on the subject.
Not everyone. I was firmly in the "give the freshmen a shot because we already know Shane sucks" camp. Thankfully, Sam improved dramatically and made me look like an idiot, but now we're back to ground zero. If Sam is not absolutely 100% and our offense is limited because we can't let him run, then it's time to start the move to the future. I've lived through Shane and it was a f*cking nightmare. I can't watch anymore if that's the direction we're headed.
Shane is the better passer, what you saw yesterday was a QB tossed in the mix with little preparation, his timing was off and he wasn't mentally ready to just step in and perform. Even with that said, he did a great job. He had the one int, but what I saw of him was a very quick release a live arm and good velocity on his passes. If Shane was the full time starter he would be killing teams with his arm.
With that said, I now understand why Herman picked Sam. Sam is better for this offense than Shane is, Shane isn't a runner and shouldn't have to be. Shane needs to be under center with a full back in a pro style offense. He would be killer in Michigan or a school that plays a pro style offense. I actually think Shane has more of a shot in the NFL than Sam does. If Sam can't go, Shane would do just fine, we shall see.
What are you smoking....?
Shane would get DESTROYED in the NFl . The dude is smaller than Colt. Maybe even smaller than when Colt was a freshman.
The nightmare was the Olinemen in front of him,in fact,they were in my mind the worst I have ever seen at the University of Texas.Despite this fact,Shane has thrown for over 4,500 yards as a Texas QB and played injured in a lot of games.I think the freshman kids are good but not willing to pull the plug until I see Shane play more and will have two weeks to prepare and play.