Imo the best players of the Macovic era

[outhereincali]

1. Ricky Williams need I say anything more?

2. Dan Neal one of the two best guards to wear burnt orange.

3. James Brown we had mediocre qb's for more than 20 years until he came along. 4th and 4 against Nebraska.

4. Tony Brackens the best defensive player of the Macovic era.

5. Man this one is tough. I have it between Phil Dawson, Bryant Westbrook, and Pat Fitzgerald. Two deserving players have to be left off. Fitzgerald was as productive a te as we've ever had an an academic AA as well. Westbrook was the hardest hitting UT cb I ever saw. Dawson is one of my all time favorite horn players so I put him at number 5.

This is the time of year where it's fun to have threads like this. Clob I hope you give your thoughts on this.

 

[learnsome]

What about Lovell Pinkney or the Cash twins?

 

[BringBackRoyal]

The Cash twins played for McWilliams.

Definitely can't see putting Pinkney above any of the players he listed. Pinkney was the team's leading receiver in only one season.

 

[swVAHorn]

how about Hampton? Rodgers?

 

[LonghornSoldier]

How about Stoney Clark? Dude had that goal line smash on ou to win it for Texas back in the day......he was a MONSTER on the DL...

 

[outhereincali]

All of these are good choices. In the category of most entertaining player if everything I've ever heard about Derek Lewis off the field is true then he wins that award hands down.

 

[speedstrength]

Blake Brockermeyer

 

[Cotton #12]

I think clob could give you a good answer.

 

[westx]

Good thread Cali. But why only top 5? Blake Brockermeyer as well as Bryant Westbrook and Phil Dawson should be on the list. I also like your suggestion of adding Fitzgerald. Make it a top 10

 

[westx]

I was checking out some All Americans and there are some players with overlap from either McWilliams/Brown. Ben Adams, Jay Humphrey, and Lance Gunn

 

[clob94]

The best athlete I've ever seen, ever- and I mean the full package- speed, size, strength, hops- was Lovell.

He could stand flat footed under the basketball rim and dunk it any way you liked it. Windmill, rock the baby, between the legs, 360, two hands, one hand-- any way you liked it without so much as a drop step.
On top of that, I'd have paid you money not to have to fight that dude.
One night, the frats were having their "boxing night" or fight night- they brought the meanest dudes from each frat in and gloved them up and threw them in the ring. The judges that night were Lovell, Mike Adams, and Stoney Clark (pretty sure it was stoney).

This one frat dude was HUGE-- you could tell by his bacne and his rip that he was stacking at least two types of steroids. You can just tell-- Anyway, this dude was whoppin errrbody's a$$. Just drilling guys. After each one of his fights he'd get a little more lippy. He started taunting people in the crowd, pointing at them, bumping his gums--- in the final bout, he drops this dude like 3rd period French. He runs to his corner, jumps on the ropes and starts yelling "I'm the baddest mother fvcker in here! I'll whip anyone's a$$!! Anybody want some? You want some? You want some?"..... And as he's doing this he's pointing at different people in the crowd----- aaaaaaaaaaaand then he fvcked up and pointed at Lovell......

I turned to Ryan Fiebiger(I think it was him) and said, "Well....... now he went and did it...." Dominic Bustamante looks at me and says "Well that's one way to go......".

So Lovell hops up out of his chair, whips off his Tommy Hilfiger shirt and climbs in the ring. Took him about two seconds to remove his jewelry and start putting on gloves--- no tape, wearing slacks and loafers, no mouthpiece-- Lovell is just licking his chops. It took old buddy about half a second to snap out of his roid rage and realize how badly he fvcked up and that he wanted no part of Lovell Pinkney. Unless he magically evaporated or was David Blain's cousin, he must have bolted out of there, but he did it so fast I never saw it. Never saw the guy on campus ever again.

 

[swVAHorn]

The best athlete I've ever seen, ever- and I mean the full package- speed, size, strength, hops- was Lovell.

He could stand flat footed under the basketball rim and dunk it any way you liked it. Windmill, rock the baby, between the legs, 360, two hands, one hand-- any way you liked it without so much as a drop step.
On top of that, I'd have paid you money not to have to fight that dude.
One night, the frats were having their "boxing night" or fight night- they brought the meanest dudes from each frat in and gloved them up and threw them in the ring. The judges that night were Lovell, Mike Adams, and Stoney Clark (pretty sure it was stoney).

This one frat dude was HUGE-- you could tell by his bacne and his rip that he was stacking at least two types of steroids. You can just tell-- Anyway, this dude was whoppin errrbody's a$$. Just drilling guys. After each one of his fights he'd get a little more lippy. He started taunting people in the crowd, pointing at them, bumping his gums--- in the final bout, he drops this dude like 3rd period French. He runs to his corner, jumps on the ropes and starts yelling "I'm the baddest mother fvcker in here! I'll whip anyone's a$$!! Anybody want some? You want some? You want some?"..... And as he's doing this he's pointing at different people in the crowd----- aaaaaaaaaaaand then he fvcked up and pointed at Lovell......

I turned to Ryan Fiebiger(I think it was him) and said, "Well....... now he went and did it...." Dominic Bustamante looks at me and says "Well that's one way to go......".

So Lovell hops up out of his chair, whips off his Tommy Hilfiger shirt and climbs in the ring. Took him about two seconds to remove his jewelry and start putting on gloves--- no tape, wearing slacks and loafers, no mouthpiece-- Lovell is just licking his chops. It took old buddy about half a second to snap out of his roid rage and realize how badly he fvcked up and that he wanted no part of Lovell Pinkney. Unless he magically evaporated or was David Blain's cousin, he must have bolted out of there, but he did it so fast I never saw it. Never saw the guy on campus ever again.

Love these kind of stories! Brings back memories of crazy stuff I have gotten into and seen.

 

[LonghornMM]

The best athlete I've ever seen, ever- and I mean the full package- speed, size, strength, hops- was Lovell.

He could stand flat footed under the basketball rim and dunk it any way you liked it. Windmill, rock the baby, between the legs, 360, two hands, one hand-- any way you liked it without so much as a drop step.
On top of that, I'd have paid you money not to have to fight that dude.
One night, the frats were having their "boxing night" or fight night- they brought the meanest dudes from each frat in and gloved them up and threw them in the ring. The judges that night were Lovell, Mike Adams, and Stoney Clark (pretty sure it was stoney).

This one frat dude was HUGE-- you could tell by his bacne and his rip that he was stacking at least two types of steroids. You can just tell-- Anyway, this dude was whoppin errrbody's a$$. Just drilling guys. After each one of his fights he'd get a little more lippy. He started taunting people in the crowd, pointing at them, bumping his gums--- in the final bout, he drops this dude like 3rd period French. He runs to his corner, jumps on the ropes and starts yelling "I'm the baddest mother fvcker in here! I'll whip anyone's a$$!! Anybody want some? You want some? You want some?"..... And as he's doing this he's pointing at different people in the crowd----- aaaaaaaaaaaand then he fvcked up and pointed at Lovell......

I turned to Ryan Fiebiger(I think it was him) and said, "Well....... now he went and did it...." Dominic Bustamante looks at me and says "Well that's one way to go......".

So Lovell hops up out of his chair, whips off his Tommy Hilfiger shirt and climbs in the ring. Took him about two seconds to remove his jewelry and start putting on gloves--- no tape, wearing slacks and loafers, no mouthpiece-- Lovell is just licking his chops. It took old buddy about half a second to snap out of his roid rage and realize how badly he fvcked up and that he wanted no part of Lovell Pinkney. Unless he magically evaporated or was David Blain's cousin, he must have bolted out of there, but he did it so fast I never saw it. Never saw the guy on campus ever again.

Lovell was a bad mofo. Dude should have played every snap or damn near every snap at Texas. One evening I called into Mackovic's coaches show and asked him why Pinckney didn't play more and didn't have more touches. His response? Said something like, "well, all players get tired and need a break, and no one, including Lovell, should play every down". Pinkney was a can't miss first rounder, and if Mackovic would have used him to his full potential, he would have been.

Mackovic was a tool. I never liked him. He came to my sister's house in Deer Park when he was recruiting my nephew, Chris Colon, who went on to play at a&m. The guy acted like a pompous, arrogant ass during the visit. Clob, I know you've said how you and the guys on the team couldn't stand Mackovic and I can see why. He's a complete a-hole. On the flip side, RC Slocum paid the family a visit, and he was engaging, gracious, polite and genuine. As much as it pained me to see my nephew go to a&m, I couldn't blame him for not wanted to play for a coach like Mackovic.

 

[westx]

Lovell was a bad mofo. Dude should have played every snap or damn near every snap at Texas. One evening I called into Mackovic's coaches show and asked him why Pinckney didn't play more and didn't have more touches. His response? Said something like, "well, all players get tired and need a break, and no one, including Lovell, should play every down". Pinkney was a can't miss first rounder, and if Mackovic would have used him to his full potential, he would have been.

Mackovic was a tool. I never liked him. He came to my sister's house in Deer Park when he was recruiting my nephew, Chris Colon, who went on to play at a&m. The guy acted like a pompous, arrogant ass during the visit. Clob, I know you've said how you and the guys on the team couldn't stand Mackovic and I can see why. He's a complete a-hole. On the flip side, RC Slocum paid the family a visit, and he was engaging, gracious, polite and genuine. As much as it pained me to see my nephew go to a&m, I couldn't blame him for not wanted to play for a coach like Mackovic.

Do you happen to know who the top candidates were after the '91 season when Mackovic was hired? Not that it is healthy to think of what could have been, but just curious. I can't remember.

 

[outhereincali]

Do you happen to know who the top candidates were after the '91 season when Mackovic was hired? Not that it is healthy to think of what could have been, but just curious. I can't remember.

I'm not sure if they were serious candidates but I remember Bobby Ross and Dennis Erickson being mentioned.

 

[HornsRuleU]

Tony Brackens should definitely be higher on that list. He was huge, nasty-mean and powerful. Man among toddlers. Bodies flying.

Speaking of that, Casey Hampton was a human bowling ball who outclassed everyone between himself and the ball.

 

[westx]

Tony Brackens should definitely be higher on that list. He was huge, nasty-mean and powerful. Man among toddlers. Bodies flying.

Speaking of that, Casey Hampton was a human bowling ball who outclassed everyone between himself and the ball.

I looked up Casey Hampton and he was Mack Brown era 2 time All Big 12 and All American.

 

[clob94]

Lovell was a bad mofo. Dude should have played every snap or damn near every snap at Texas. One evening I called into Mackovic's coaches show and asked him why Pinckney didn't play more and didn't have more touches. His response? Said something like, "well, all players get tired and need a break, and no one, including Lovell, should play every down". Pinkney was a can't miss first rounder, and if Mackovic would have used him to his full potential, he would have been.

Mackovic was a tool. I never liked him. He came to my sister's house in Deer Park when he was recruiting my nephew, Chris Colon, who went on to play at a&m. The guy acted like a pompous, arrogant ass during the visit. Clob, I know you've said how you and the guys on the team couldn't stand Mackovic and I can see why. He's a complete a-hole. On the flip side, RC Slocum paid the family a visit, and he was engaging, gracious, polite and genuine. As much as it pained me to see my nephew go to a&m, I couldn't blame him for not wanted to play for a coach like Mackovic.

MM----

Are you fvcking kidding me? Chris Colon is your nephew? Get the fvck out of here!

Dude was my HOST on my recruiting trip to a&m..

I'm laughing my ass off right now because he and I ended up at the parents house of two sisters that were both Diamond Darlings and my hostesses on my trip..... their folks weren't home..... I'm am literally laughing my fvcking ass of typing this. Oh man do I have some dirt on your nephew!

 

[swVAHorn]

I looked up Casey Hampton and he was Mack Brown era 2 time All Big 12 and All American.

He was but he was signed by Macovic wasn't he?

 

[clob94]

Tony Brackens should definitely be higher on that list. He was huge, nasty-mean and powerful. Man among toddlers. Bodies flying.

Speaking of that, Casey Hampton was a human bowling ball who outclassed everyone between himself and the ball.

HornsruleU,

Tony was a bad man. No doubt. Dude benched 4 bills as a freshman. But gather round boys and girls cause uncle clob's got a story about Tony and Lovell-

So one day I'm coming down the hallway in Jester and the doors to Patrick Hayes room and his suite mate stoney clark, were open. (Side note, I've got a P Hayes story that will leave you in stitches)

So I walk into Pat's room and he's got some music on and a few other dudes are there. Lovell comes out of the bathroom and he's carrying on like Lovell did- (his favorite line was "some people say I look like Denzel Washington"). So Lovell goes over and he's standing in the doorway, everybody's talking about this and that. Then Lovell lifts his left arm up, crosses his legs and is leaning in the doorway, real relaxed and what not-- then BAM! Out if nowhere Tony comes down the hall and hits Lovell right on his right hip with a form tackle---- only he didn't tackle Lovell--- Lovell keeps his feet, reaches down and grabs Tony by his belt line on his pants and FLINGS him across the room and onto the couch! I nearly sh!t myself. Of course Tony bounces up and is unfazed by all of this and Lovell just leans back up against the door frame and says "Like I was sayin..." and just goes back to the conversation like nothing had happened.

 

[clob94]

He was but he was signed by Macovic wasn't he?

Yes. Casey "small world" Hampton was signed by Mackoprick.

We didn't call him small world cause he was small. Dude was as big as a small planet.... hence- small world.

 

[speedstrength]

Pat Hays was a good dude. I spent a lot of time with him in the training room when he was rehabbing his knee.

Another huge guy was Chris Akins. I don't think he was as athletic as Casey Hampton but he was a solid guy.

 

[BringBackRoyal]

Lovell was a bad mofo. Dude should have played every snap or damn near every snap at Texas. One evening I called into Mackovic's coaches show and asked him why Pinckney didn't play more and didn't have more touches. His response? Said something like, "well, all players get tired and need a break, and no one, including Lovell, should play every down". Pinkney was a can't miss first rounder, and if Mackovic would have used him to his full potential, he would have been.

Mackovic was a tool. I never liked him. He came to my sister's house in Deer Park when he was recruiting my nephew, Chris Colon, who went on to play at a&m. The guy acted like a pompous, arrogant ass during the visit. Clob, I know you've said how you and the guys on the team couldn't stand Mackovic and I can see why. He's a complete a-hole. On the flip side, RC Slocum paid the family a visit, and he was engaging, gracious, polite and genuine. As much as it pained me to see my nephew go to a&m, I couldn't blame him for not wanted to play for a coach like Mackovic.

Mackovic is one of a few dozen reasons I can't get behind people who think The Track Coach was ever some incredible AD.

 

[westx]

He was but he was signed by Macovic wasn't he?

You are correct.

 

[outhereincali]

Yes. Casey "small world" Hampton was signed by Mackoprick.

We didn't call him small world cause he was small. Dude was as big as a small planet.... hence- small world.

Was Derek Lewis as entertaining of the field as they said he was? One year in the pre season annual he was elected worst dresser, funniest, most likely to give a cheap shot, and biggest trash talker? How much of that was true?

But hey I will always give Derek some love. He caught that pass on 4th down against Nebraska, one of my biggest plays in school history. Do you remember how he watched himself on the jumbo tron while he was running with the ball?

 

[clob94]

Was Derek Lewis as entertaining of the field as they said he was? One year in the pre season annual he was elected worst dresser, funniest, most likely to give a cheap shot, and biggest trash talker? How much of that was true?

But hey I will always give Derek some love. He caught that pass on 4th down against Nebraska, one of my biggest plays in school history. Do you remember how he watched himself on the jumbo tron while he was running with the ball?

He was funny but no where near as funny as Darrell Wilson. That dude was relentless. He'd find something about you, your big nose, or big ears, or whatever, and just GO to TOWN on you.

 

[swVAHorn]

One of the most painful days of my life was when Texas lost to Virginia Tech in the Sugar Bowl. I live a stones throw from VT and I was one of the only people with Texas apparel so I caught grief...now there are tons of Texas fans here in VA. I am still hoping to pay VT back for that one.

 

[clob94]

Ya'll seem to have forgotten about a little running back out of San Antonio named Priest....

 

[westx]

One of the most painful days of my life was when Texas lost to Virginia Tech in the Sugar Bowl. I live a stones throw from VT and I was one of the only people with Texas apparel so I caught grief...now there are tons of Texas fans here in VA. I am still hoping to pay VT back for that one.

Frank Beamer had a good game plan. Good coach. If you remember, Brown played with an ankle injury. Beamer blitzed and hurried or got to Brown a lot.

 

[swVAHorn]

Frank Beamer had a good game plan. Good coach. If you remember, Brown played with an ankle injury. Beamer blitzed and hurried or got to Brown a lot.

They killed Texas with Beamerball.....right before the half a punt return for TD....a fumble for TD.....I think VT only scored on 1 regular drive? Can't remember exactly. I caught hell out here. I still love my Longhorns! I got the last laugh in 2005...haha

 

[swVAHorn]

When I say there are a LOT of Texas fans here in VA...I mean it. Tons of clothing in the stores when I used to have to special order anything not ACC...or Big East then. I talk to other Texas fans at work all the time. Recruiting, coaching...awesome.

 

[clob94]

Dudes, that game was in NOLA------- do the math. Ya'll are lucky we even showed for that game. If you'd have lit a match at any point on our practice field, there would have been nothing left but a smoking crater.

 

[swVAHorn]

Dudes, that game was in NOLA------- do the math. Ya'll are lucky we even showed for that game. If you'd have lit a match at any point on our practice field, there would have been nothing left but a smoking crater.

clob you guys broke my heart....I am still not healed completely from it. lol Were they better clob or did you guys blow it?

 

[BringBackRoyal]

They killed Texas with Beamerball.....right before the half a punt return for TD....a fumble for TD.....I think VT only scored on 1 regular drive? Can remember exactly. I caught hell out here. I still love my Longhorns! I got the last laugh in 2005...haha

I don't even remember who was posting on this board back in 2005, but we had a couple of ultra-sh*tbird Hokie trolls around here for two or three weeks running their mouths about how they were going to jump us in the BCS rankings. One of the very few times I've ever pulled for the 'Canes like they were my own team was that early-November beatdown they laid on VT in Blacksburg. I bet you were walking around with quite the sh*t-eating grin for a while over there in VA.

 

[clob94]

Ehhhh, were they better? They out drank us at Pat O'Brian's one night. But in our defense, we didn't have the same drinking crew we had the year prior at the Sun Bowl. We CRUSHED the drinking record in El Pass at that country bar--- midnight rodeo I think. Crushed it-- and Mack Brown didn't let North Carolina players drink at all. So we had to beat the previous record set by Texas Tech and OU combined.


Yes, re-read that. One team, beat the record for a bar tab set by TWO teams. All drinks were free btw. We crushed it in El Paso. Then the next year, VA Tech proved to be some hard drinkers. If it would have been a beer drinking contest, I think we win---- but those hillbillies drank whiskey like it was momma titty milk. Unreal.

In short, did we come to play? Sort of. But whiskey and white Castle and 6am Beignets (ben-yays) for you dumb a$$es, certainly had an effect on us. Consequently, I still have my VIP card from Larry Flynt's Hustlers.....