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Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (Addressing Tom Herman and Ohio State ...)

My brother and I were there that night, sat with the UT parents (thank you Frank Okam). We started the walk back to our hotel thinking we could catch a cab (wrong). So we walked I think 5 miles, and that 1st mile away from the stadium, we had more "F you's" and had a drunk dude walking up towards us swinging a tree branch at us. I don't think we've ever walked that fast in our lives with our heads on a swivel the whole time.
However we were so jacked up about the win, adrenaline was sky high, that it actually made the win even sweeter listening to those poor sports cry and moan.
But safety was not a given, and I remember thinking I bet there will be many fans who got assaulted on the way out of there.
 
I don’t have any first or second hand info about Scientology but let’s just say the things I’ve read are not flatteringly all, assuming they are true. And he’s at the head of it.

I’m not saying I don’t like people associated with Scientology but many people have serious negative thoughts toward him because if his affiliation.


Got you.. Yeah, I don’t know much about that group or his part in it. But I would assume he is a leader or at least, a face for the organization. Just curious your opinion on how that makes him hard to like specifically.
 
Tiger might win a tournament, but winning a major will be a feat, to say the least. Yes, he's possibly the best of all time (I still say it's Nicklaus), but he has fused vertebrae. Here is the list (pretty sure it's accurate) of post-WWII golfers who were 40 or over when they won a major. Hogan is the most amazing story considering the injury he sustained prior to 1953. Only Nicklaus, O'Meara, Hogan and Boros have won more than one major after age 39:

AGE 48 - Julius Boros, 1968 US PGA Championship, Pecan Valley;

AGE 46 - Jack Nicklaus, 1986 Masters;

AGE 45 - Hale Irwin, 1990 US Open, Medinah,
Jerry Barber, 1961 US PGA Championship, Olympia Fields;

AGE 44 - Lee Trevino, 1984 US PGA Championship, Shoal Creek,
Roberto De Vicenzo, 1967 Open, Royal Liverpool;

AGE 43 - Phil Mickelson, 2013 Open, Muirfield,
Ben Crenshaw, 1995 Masters,
Raymond Floyd, 1986 US Open, Shinnecock Hills
Julius Boros, 1963 US Open, The Country Club;;

AGE 42 - Ernie Els, 2012 Open, Royal Lytham,
Darren Clarke, 2011 Open, Royal St George’s,
Payne Stewart, 1999 US Open, Pinehurst No. 2,
Tom Kite, 1992 US Open, Pebble Beach,
Gary Player, 1978 Masters,
Tommy Bolt, 1958 US Open, Southern Hills;

AGE 41 - Vijay Singh, 2004 US PGA Championship, Whistling Straits,
Mark O’Meara, 1998 Open, Royal Birkdale, and 1998 Masters,
Sam Snead, 1954 Masters,,
Henry Cotton, 1948 Open, Muirfield;

AGE 40 - Ben Hogan, 1953 Open, Carnoustie, and 1953 US Open, Oakmont, and 1953 Masters,
Jack Nicklaus, 1980 US PGA Championship, Oak Hill, and 1980 US Open, Baltusrol.
 
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You people with your data and links.. I could be off a little with my blanket statement. Just trying to get McHorn’s thoughts in his post..

But that is the company line, isn’t it?
If by "company" you mean "logical" then I guess so. I don't care either way or about any of it. Was just curious if there was an intriguing data set you knew of that I didn't.

A broad brush brings pointed critique.
 
My brother and I were there that night, sat with the UT parents (thank you Frank Okam). We started the walk back to our hotel thinking we could catch a cab (wrong). So we walked I think 5 miles, and that 1st mile away from the stadium, we had more "F you's" and had a drunk dude walking up towards us swinging a tree branch at us. I don't think we've ever walked that fast in our lives with our heads on a swivel the whole time.
However we were so jacked up about the win, adrenaline was sky high, that it actually made the win even sweeter listening to those poor sports cry and moan.
But safety was not a given, and I remember thinking I bet there will be many fans who got assaulted on the way out of there.

Man, this thread has me wondering what all personal protection devices should I take when I go.. ha
 

Let's let what happened over the weekend sink in a little bit.

In the most obvious attempt to change the most important narrative of a story that folks in Columbus desperately want to get away from, Tom Herman's character was forced to withstand an assassination because he allegedly ...

*Wait for it.*

*Wait for it*

... helped a victim of spousal abuse.

That's where we are, folks.

Rather than deal head on with the reality that Urban Meyer is a serial enabler of abusers, which led directly to the situation that exists today with an abuser knowingly protected for years on Meyer’s staff, the good folks of Columbus (and I'm using the word "good" incredibly loosely) seem more concerned with getting down to who might have told on Meyer or had the audacity to help a battered wife and mother.

The highest piece of irony about this pile of disingenuous manure that made its way south this weekend is that this entire situation practically begged for someone ... ANYONE ... to step up emphatically for a woman in need of help. It should have been Meyer, but it wasn't. It should have been leadership in the athletic department, but none existed.

As far as I can tell, Tom and Michelle Herman have been more supporting of Courtney Smith in the last four or five years than anyone at Ohio State has ever been. They befriended her long after Herman stopped working with her incredibly flawed husband.

Let’s be perfectly clear, I don't care if Tom Herman helped Courtney Smith in any way, including supporting her as she made the decision to go public with her situation.

Good.

Where was everyone else in the Ohio State Athletic Department when she needed help?

Let me also be perfectly clear that I don't care who has given Brett McMurphy the goods on the situation. His source matters 1,000 times less than properly addressing the enabling of abuse that Meyer signed off of, which in his own words were motivated by football reasons.

Finding the complete truth is what matters and when people associated with the bad guys start pitching story ideas to news organizations in the hopes of changing the national narrative, it tells you exactly where the truth is likely to take us.

No. 2 - More thoughts on the Ohio State matter ...

... And we wonder why victims of abuse don't step forward on timelines that make everyone else most comfortable ...

Since Smith came forward to speak of the abuse that seems to have been confirmed in multiple capacities, the following has occurred:

a. The predictable character assassinations.
b. Her alleged abuser was given national platforms to spew obvious lies and misrepresentations of the truth.
c. Anyone that has supported her is under attack.
d. Her mother betrayed her.

Folks, if you don't have an appreciation for the stakes involved in these stories, you need to be asking yourself why.

... Whatever Smith did with the money loaned to her by Michelle Herman is none of our business. I don't care if the money was used for legal bills, her cell phone bill or a trip to Europe. It's none of our business. Even if the Hermans did give her money for legal fees, so what?

Let me repeat that last part ... so what?

... Urban Meyer needs to lose his job. There are too many questions he cannot answer with good answers. I have no idea whether the university has the guts to do what is right.

No. 3 - Three things that stand out after a week of camp ...

a. The offense remains a major work in progress. There's hope. There's optimism. There's just very little you can absolutely take to the bank at the moment. On the other side of the ball, there might be some depth issues in the front seven, but I have absolutely zero concerns about Todd Orlando's side of the ball. None.

b. Youth continues to be served. DeMarvion Overshown is already making waves. So is Keaontay Ingram. So is Joseph Ossai. We could end up seeing as many as a dozen true freshman listed on the two-deep at some point this season.

c. It's been a week and I haven't had a single source in the program offer hyperbole on the quarterbacks. There's optimism, but there's also more caution there than any other position, including (weirdly) offensive linemen.

No. 4 - My expectations for the Maryland game ...

I think it's safe to say the Longhorns are taking on a dumpster fire in the season-opener.

With the suspension of head coach D.J. Durkin over the weekend, I have no idea how this will impact the game, but it can't be a good thing for the Terps. When the one word that seems to be associated with a program the most is "toxic," it's hard to know what the hell to expect as it relates to an actual football game.

All I know is Humpty Dumpty is broken and I'm not sure how the pieces can be put together again.

No. 5 - Story-time with Uncle Ketch...
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It's hard not to see the story that is unfolding in Columbus in the last few weeks and not recall that the last time I was in Columbus, my traveling companion was featured on the front page of the daily newspaper for the racial abuse he suffered following the game.

I'll never forget being in the Texas travelling section in the end zone as the final seconds ticked off the clock when a female Ohio State fan turned towards the late Sean Adams and myself, apologetically offering up, "I want to apologize in advance for how you're going to be treated.”

We kind of chuckled at her words, which were followed by a stern reaction.

"I'm very serious," she said. "You're going to need to be careful."

Moments later, we weren't even out of the stadium when women wearing burnt orange were being called the c-word. Furniture would burn in the streets before the night was over.

While we were stuck in the worst post-game traffic you've ever seen, our cab driver turned into an alley, which was clear of traffic for a few blocks. At some point, we got stopped in this alley, which was near an Ohio State fraternity (I believe I have that right). About a half-dozen Ohio State students approached Sean, who was sitting in the front seat of the car, while I was in the back seat with two female friends. The n-word was used and that probably wasn't the most disrespectful thing that was used in the way of verbal communication.

Honestly, I didn't think there was any way that Sean wasn't going to get out of the card and in the moment I was prepared to do whatever needed to be done. If we had been 21 or 23 or 25, we probably would have engaged in a brawl that night, but since we were both hovering around 30, cooler heads prevailed. Sean didn't let pride get him into a 7 on 2 physical confrontation and the damn cab eventually got out of the area.

The stories of what happened that night were so bad that it was being discussed locally in Columbus for days the following week. Our story made the news.

This is what I know of Columbus. I've never had any desire to go back, football games or not. It's the most low-rent town I've visited in nearly a quarter-century of covering college football. Not even Fayetteville comes within a 100-foot pole of it.

Therefore, when a scandal breaks out in Columbus, you're just going to forgive me if my level of expectations for anyone living there to be incredibly low. That place has more than earned its reputation.

No. 6 – Buy or Sell …
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BUY or SELL: @MFarrell participated in the biggest burning of bridges on OB ever yesterday?

(Buy) It reminds me of a scene from The Big Lebowski. Mike wasn't wrong that college coaches as a whole are completely untrustworthy, but his bedside manner and misuse of proper context made any point he was trying to make wide of the mark.

BUY or SELL: With Maryland in chaos and USC starting a true freshman QB, Texas gets through non-conference 3-0 and sets itself up for the breakout we've all been impatiently waiting for?

(Sell) I'm still not ready to give that kind of benefit of the doubt. It has not been earned.

BUY or SELL: Herman may have not been McMurphy’s source, but he encouraged Beck to blow the whistle?

(Sell) I'd guess that Herman has been terrified he'd be linked to this story, thus producing unwanted distractions, which is what coaches hate more than anything.

BUY or SELL: The competition between Sam and Shane is way closer than most fans realize?

(Buy) There could be a new quarterback on the field in the second quarter of the opener if Ehlinger doesn't play well. Of course, if he plays well, this could be his job until 2021. Separation is only truly going to occur in games, not practice.

BUY or SELL: As good as Hager, Nelson and Omenihu seem to be, there will be significant issues in run defense that teams are able to exploit?

(Sell) The run defense will be fine.

BUY or SELL: Kirk Johnson is more likely to rush for 100 yards in a game this year than Urban Meyer is of coaching Ohio State next year?

(Buy) I just want you to know I thought about this long and hard. I just can't believe Meyer keeps his job.

BUY or SELL: Tiger Woods wins a golf tournament before the Longhorns win a football natty?

(Buy) Tiger will win before the end of the decade.

BUY or SELL: Next year, despite our bowl outcome, you will refer to the team by its regular season win/loss record in nearly every podcast and article.

(Sell) Context matters greatly.

BUY or SELL: It is a mistake to allow "fans" to gather and party outside of DKR Texas Memorial Stadium before games if they don't have a ticket to the game?

(Sell) Why did you put "fans" in parenthesis? Isn't someone that would gather and party outside of DKR without a ticket the definition of a fan?

BUY or SELL: @Ketchum makes a minimum of one OB tailgate in 2018?

(Buy) I will make a tailgate this year.

No. 7 - Tweet of the weekend...


For once Tiger Woods wearing red on a Sunday made sense. It was beautiful.

It speaks to the level that Brooks Koepka played in winning that Tiger's -14 performance just wasn't enough to get over the hill.

Man, that was fun. Can we do it again?

No. 8 – Eternal Randomness of the Spotty Sports Mind …

... Brooks Koepka is a mack. He's the best golfer in the world right now. Crazy to think he has the same number of majors wins as Jordan Spieth.

... Chris Warren is tearing it up in Oakland as an undrafted rookie free agent and I have to admit to being shocked by it all. Good for him.

... If Terrance Williams loses a starting job to Michael Gallup and never returns to the starting line-up for the Cowboys, it'll be too soon. Go rookie.

... Paul Pogba is going to have a monster season.

... Sadio Mane >>> Eden Hazard. Still.

No. 9 - The List: Top 10 Tom Cruise performances ...

Is Tom Cruise the most underrated movie star of all-time?

After watching "Mission Impossible: Fallout" earlier this week (solid B), I started kicking around this idea a little. He's not the most accomplished actor of all-time, as he doesn't have a single Oscar. Clearly, he's no Daniel Day-Lewis. However, when you look at is best work, he's got a resume that will stand the time of history.

Here's my list:

10. Ron Kovic (Born on the Fourth of July)
9. Vincent (Collateral)
8. Joel (Risky Business)
7. Frank T.J. Mackey (Magnolia)
6. Jerry McGuire (Jerry McGuire)
5. Ethan Hunt (Mission Impossible)
4. Lt. Daniel Kaffee (A Few Good Men)
3. Charlie Babbitt (Rain Man)
2. Les Grosman (Tropic Thunder)
1. Maverick (Top Gun)

No. 10 – And Finally ...

This is the hero that America needs right now.
Similar story. Was with a few buddies after the game in Columbus. A very nice guy came over and said that he wouldn’t be able to sleep that night unless we allowed him to give us a few OSU shirts that he had in his car. Ill never forget that singular act of kindness in a sea of jerks.
 
Got you.. Yeah, I don’t know much about that group or his part in it. But I would assume he is a leader or at least, a face for the organization. Just curious your opinion on how that makes him hard to like specifically.

Google and read about people’s attempts to leave. Make your own determination after reading about it.
 
(Sell) Why did you put "fans" in parenthesis? Isn't someone that would gather and party outside of DKR without a ticket the definition of a fan?

Hey, that there might be a problem with "Bevo Blvd." before games because of too many people is a supposition on my part. I struggled with how to put that possibility into the "buy or sell" format. I put fans in parenthesis because I'm not sure that only fans will be attracted. You seem pretty confident that anyone that shows up is a fan. Let's see how this plays out.

After thought: I'm glad you brought up your memories of attending a game at the Horseshoe. That horrible experience - as told to me by family members in attendance - was in the back of my mind when I posed the question.
 
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Let's let what happened over the weekend sink in a little bit.

In the most obvious attempt to change the most important narrative of a story that folks in Columbus desperately want to get away from, Tom Herman's character was forced to withstand an assassination because he allegedly ...

*Wait for it.*

*Wait for it*

... helped a victim of spousal abuse.

That's where we are, folks.

Rather than deal head on with the reality that Urban Meyer is a serial enabler of abusers, which led directly to the situation that exists today with an abuser knowingly protected for years on Meyer’s staff, the good folks of Columbus (and I'm using the word "good" incredibly loosely) seem more concerned with getting down to who might have told on Meyer or had the audacity to help a battered wife and mother.

The highest piece of irony about this pile of disingenuous manure that made its way south this weekend is that this entire situation practically begged for someone ... ANYONE ... to step up emphatically for a woman in need of help. It should have been Meyer, but it wasn't. It should have been leadership in the athletic department, but none existed.

As far as I can tell, Tom and Michelle Herman have been more supporting of Courtney Smith in the last four or five years than anyone at Ohio State has ever been. They befriended her long after Herman stopped working with her incredibly flawed husband.

Let’s be perfectly clear, I don't care if Tom Herman helped Courtney Smith in any way, including supporting her as she made the decision to go public with her situation.

Good.

Where was everyone else in the Ohio State Athletic Department when she needed help?

Let me also be perfectly clear that I don't care who has given Brett McMurphy the goods on the situation. His source matters 1,000 times less than properly addressing the enabling of abuse that Meyer signed off of, which in his own words were motivated by football reasons.

Finding the complete truth is what matters and when people associated with the bad guys start pitching story ideas to news organizations in the hopes of changing the national narrative, it tells you exactly where the truth is likely to take us.

No. 2 - More thoughts on the Ohio State matter ...

... And we wonder why victims of abuse don't step forward on timelines that make everyone else most comfortable ...

Since Smith came forward to speak of the abuse that seems to have been confirmed in multiple capacities, the following has occurred:

a. The predictable character assassinations.
b. Her alleged abuser was given national platforms to spew obvious lies and misrepresentations of the truth.
c. Anyone that has supported her is under attack.
d. Her mother betrayed her.

Folks, if you don't have an appreciation for the stakes involved in these stories, you need to be asking yourself why.

... Whatever Smith did with the money loaned to her by Michelle Herman is none of our business. I don't care if the money was used for legal bills, her cell phone bill or a trip to Europe. It's none of our business. Even if the Hermans did give her money for legal fees, so what?

Let me repeat that last part ... so what?

... Urban Meyer needs to lose his job. There are too many questions he cannot answer with good answers. I have no idea whether the university has the guts to do what is right.

No. 3 - Three things that stand out after a week of camp ...

a. The offense remains a major work in progress. There's hope. There's optimism. There's just very little you can absolutely take to the bank at the moment. On the other side of the ball, there might be some depth issues in the front seven, but I have absolutely zero concerns about Todd Orlando's side of the ball. None.

b. Youth continues to be served. DeMarvion Overshown is already making waves. So is Keaontay Ingram. So is Joseph Ossai. We could end up seeing as many as a dozen true freshman listed on the two-deep at some point this season.

c. It's been a week and I haven't had a single source in the program offer hyperbole on the quarterbacks. There's optimism, but there's also more caution there than any other position, including (weirdly) offensive linemen.

No. 4 - My expectations for the Maryland game ...

I think it's safe to say the Longhorns are taking on a dumpster fire in the season-opener.

With the suspension of head coach D.J. Durkin over the weekend, I have no idea how this will impact the game, but it can't be a good thing for the Terps. When the one word that seems to be associated with a program the most is "toxic," it's hard to know what the hell to expect as it relates to an actual football game.

All I know is Humpty Dumpty is broken and I'm not sure how the pieces can be put together again.

No. 5 - Story-time with Uncle Ketch...
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It's hard not to see the story that is unfolding in Columbus in the last few weeks and not recall that the last time I was in Columbus, my traveling companion was featured on the front page of the daily newspaper for the racial abuse he suffered following the game.

I'll never forget being in the Texas travelling section in the end zone as the final seconds ticked off the clock when a female Ohio State fan turned towards the late Sean Adams and myself, apologetically offering up, "I want to apologize in advance for how you're going to be treated.”

We kind of chuckled at her words, which were followed by a stern reaction.

"I'm very serious," she said. "You're going to need to be careful."

Moments later, we weren't even out of the stadium when women wearing burnt orange were being called the c-word. Furniture would burn in the streets before the night was over.

While we were stuck in the worst post-game traffic you've ever seen, our cab driver turned into an alley, which was clear of traffic for a few blocks. At some point, we got stopped in this alley, which was near an Ohio State fraternity (I believe I have that right). About a half-dozen Ohio State students approached Sean, who was sitting in the front seat of the car, while I was in the back seat with two female friends. The n-word was used and that probably wasn't the most disrespectful thing that was used in the way of verbal communication.

Honestly, I didn't think there was any way that Sean wasn't going to get out of the card and in the moment I was prepared to do whatever needed to be done. If we had been 21 or 23 or 25, we probably would have engaged in a brawl that night, but since we were both hovering around 30, cooler heads prevailed. Sean didn't let pride get him into a 7 on 2 physical confrontation and the damn cab eventually got out of the area.

The stories of what happened that night were so bad that it was being discussed locally in Columbus for days the following week. Our story made the news.

This is what I know of Columbus. I've never had any desire to go back, football games or not. It's the most low-rent town I've visited in nearly a quarter-century of covering college football. Not even Fayetteville comes within a 100-foot pole of it.

Therefore, when a scandal breaks out in Columbus, you're just going to forgive me if my level of expectations for anyone living there to be incredibly low. That place has more than earned its reputation.

No. 6 – Buy or Sell …
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BUY or SELL: @MFarrell participated in the biggest burning of bridges on OB ever yesterday?

(Buy) It reminds me of a scene from The Big Lebowski. Mike wasn't wrong that college coaches as a whole are completely untrustworthy, but his bedside manner and misuse of proper context made any point he was trying to make wide of the mark.

BUY or SELL: With Maryland in chaos and USC starting a true freshman QB, Texas gets through non-conference 3-0 and sets itself up for the breakout we've all been impatiently waiting for?

(Sell) I'm still not ready to give that kind of benefit of the doubt. It has not been earned.

BUY or SELL: Herman may have not been McMurphy’s source, but he encouraged Beck to blow the whistle?

(Sell) I'd guess that Herman has been terrified he'd be linked to this story, thus producing unwanted distractions, which is what coaches hate more than anything.

BUY or SELL: The competition between Sam and Shane is way closer than most fans realize?

(Buy) There could be a new quarterback on the field in the second quarter of the opener if Ehlinger doesn't play well. Of course, if he plays well, this could be his job until 2021. Separation is only truly going to occur in games, not practice.

BUY or SELL: As good as Hager, Nelson and Omenihu seem to be, there will be significant issues in run defense that teams are able to exploit?

(Sell) The run defense will be fine.

BUY or SELL: Kirk Johnson is more likely to rush for 100 yards in a game this year than Urban Meyer is of coaching Ohio State next year?

(Buy) I just want you to know I thought about this long and hard. I just can't believe Meyer keeps his job.

BUY or SELL: Tiger Woods wins a golf tournament before the Longhorns win a football natty?

(Buy) Tiger will win before the end of the decade.

BUY or SELL: Next year, despite our bowl outcome, you will refer to the team by its regular season win/loss record in nearly every podcast and article.

(Sell) Context matters greatly.

BUY or SELL: It is a mistake to allow "fans" to gather and party outside of DKR Texas Memorial Stadium before games if they don't have a ticket to the game?

(Sell) Why did you put "fans" in parenthesis? Isn't someone that would gather and party outside of DKR without a ticket the definition of a fan?

BUY or SELL: @Ketchum makes a minimum of one OB tailgate in 2018?

(Buy) I will make a tailgate this year.

No. 7 - Tweet of the weekend...


For once Tiger Woods wearing red on a Sunday made sense. It was beautiful.

It speaks to the level that Brooks Koepka played in winning that Tiger's -14 performance just wasn't enough to get over the hill.

Man, that was fun. Can we do it again?

No. 8 – Eternal Randomness of the Spotty Sports Mind …

... Brooks Koepka is a mack. He's the best golfer in the world right now. Crazy to think he has the same number of majors wins as Jordan Spieth.

... Chris Warren is tearing it up in Oakland as an undrafted rookie free agent and I have to admit to being shocked by it all. Good for him.

... If Terrance Williams loses a starting job to Michael Gallup and never returns to the starting line-up for the Cowboys, it'll be too soon. Go rookie.

... Paul Pogba is going to have a monster season.

... Sadio Mane >>> Eden Hazard. Still.

No. 9 - The List: Top 10 Tom Cruise performances ...

Is Tom Cruise the most underrated movie star of all-time?

After watching "Mission Impossible: Fallout" earlier this week (solid B), I started kicking around this idea a little. He's not the most accomplished actor of all-time, as he doesn't have a single Oscar. Clearly, he's no Daniel Day-Lewis. However, when you look at is best work, he's got a resume that will stand the time of history.

Here's my list:

10. Ron Kovic (Born on the Fourth of July)
9. Vincent (Collateral)
8. Joel (Risky Business)
7. Frank T.J. Mackey (Magnolia)
6. Jerry McGuire (Jerry McGuire)
5. Ethan Hunt (Mission Impossible)
4. Lt. Daniel Kaffee (A Few Good Men)
3. Charlie Babbitt (Rain Man)
2. Les Grosman (Tropic Thunder)
1. Maverick (Top Gun)

No. 10 – And Finally ...

This is the hero that America needs right now.
 
Might be your two best pieces of work in a long time back to back.

Nice work Ketch.

FWIW, just about every Tom Cruise movie is solid at worst. He picks great roles.

I know most will disagree but I think Edge of Tomorrow is one of his top 5. One of my favorite sci fi flicks.


The whole Scientology thing makes it hard to like him, but he’s an all time great.
Man I was reading through all these posts to see if anyone would call out Edge of Tomorrow, great flick. Well done.
 
You should do a "Top 10 performances" for Kurt Russell; long career, some stellar movies, vastly underrated
 
I'm actually proud of the fact that the Hermans did something to help Courtney out. And as for that shit hole, yeah I was there also in 2005. I had a great gig whereby I took another employee (an OSU grad) and two clients - one of whom was also a UT alum and another college football fanatic who turned out to be the current Texas AG who gets so much grief on here. First, we were packed like sardines. Second, the moment Limas Sweed scored, a kid in front of us who stood up to cheer (I mean like 12 or 13) had a beer dumped on his head. We get ready to leave and my OSU friend says, "Look, let's be very careful even though school's not in session (don't know if true), we burn shit when we win!" So my drunk fellow UT alum immediately goes running off in front of us yelling at the top of his lungs "Hook'em!!!" and we all try to catch up to make sure he doesn't get killed. Well an OSU fan walking past us sticks out his arm and elbows Ken Paxton to the ground and as we try to make sure nothing else further ensues there, we lose the drunk friend. We find him (after dodging several beers and fights) about 10 minutes later at an OSU tailgate where he's taken over and holding court. He greets us like nothing is up and is offering us beers from the tailgaters as I see they are quickly thinking of murdering us all. Fortunately for us we miraculously hail a cab and make it back to our hotel without further incident. To hear the stories afterward at the airport waiting for our flight was just amazing... scum of the Earth.
 
Re: Tom Cruise

#9, 10 - Vincent and Ron Kovic are WAY TOO LOW on your list.

He was also very good as Lestat in the Interview With the Vampire. John Anderton as well (Minority Report).

The Firm, Interview With the Vampire, Eyes Wide Shut, Minority Report are underrated films.

Oh, The Last Samurai is also good.

The other thing to look at with Tom Cruise (and Leonardo di Caprio can be put in this category as well)...how many other actors/actresses did he make into stars (Rebecca Demornay, Kelly McGillis, Renee Zellweger)?
 
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I was in my mid 20’s at the OSU game. Before the game we hit up some bars and the trash talk wasn’t that bad but it was there. But walking to the stadium it was absolutely ridiculous at how much vulgar language the students used. I asked one guy why they were so damn rude. I said we paid to fly up here to experience yall’s game day traditions and see The Shoe, I mean it’s not like we are Michigan. Once we made it outside the stadium we were welcomed in by the alumni and offered food and beer to hangout. They were good people. Before the game started I bought a OSU Nike T-shirt just to have as a souvenir. And thank God I did because when we left the game my brother and his friend wanted to go out partying and I was not in the mood. So I started walking down the road by myself and their fans started rioting and picking fights. I put that red Ohio State T-shirt on and it’s probably the only thing that saved me from being pummeled by some drunk frat dudes.
This could be a thing in hostile locations, gameday camouflage!
 
We got into about 3 brawls that night trying to get the hell away from High street. Eventually had to jog 4 miles and through fraternity row to get to our crap-Hole hotel. Hate that place. Greatest game I ever went to though.
 
1. Good shit, Ketch
2. Dude pissed about people watching the game outside the stadium is a doosh
3. I've long heard it was turrble, but everyone's pretty unanimous shock, awe and disdain for Columbus is pretty incredible to me for some reason. I can only imagine how truly awful it had to be to make every single person that went up there that weekend have pure disgust with the experience. I almost feel like I have to go for the next series just to see it for myself.
 
What stick-up-the-ass snob asked this question?

BUY or SELL: It is a mistake to allow "fans" to gather and party outside of DKR Texas Memorial Stadium before games if they don't have a ticket to the game?


(Sell) Why did you put "fans" in parenthesis? Isn't someone that would gather and party outside of DKR without a ticket the definition of a fan?

People like this are a direct result of why our game atmosphere suck! Too many pretentious self righteous stick in the mud assholes in the stands.
 
@Ketchum. As it pertains to #1... "disingenuous manure", you are much to kind. Actually it's a load of freaking horseshit put forth by the lowest vermin I can think of
 
BUY or SELL: With Maryland in chaos and USC starting a true freshman QB, Texas gets through non-conference 3-0 and sets itself up for the breakout we've all been impatiently waiting for?

(Sell) I'm still not ready to give that kind of benefit of the doubt. It has not been earned.
"It has not been earned" sums it up well. It is why many don't drink the kool-aid any more.
 
BUY or SELL: It is a mistake to allow "fans" to gather and party outside of DKR Texas Memorial Stadium before games if they don't have a ticket to the game?

(Sell) Why did you put "fans" in parenthesis? Isn't someone that would gather and party outside of DKR without a ticket the definition of a fan?

Those are quotation marks, not parentheses!

Anyone wanting to know the person who posted that question can go to the original post asking for the Buy or Sell questions. I called them out!! I thought it was a dumb question!
 
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I promise, I’m not trolling here. Don’t know anything about Mike Farrell. Is he the owner of the rivals site and @Ketchum boss? Or is he just a reporter for rivals with no affiliation to a specific university’s fan site?
 
Great write up tonight and I agree 100% on everything you mentioned about OSU and Columbus Ohio in September 2005

Sadio Mane >>> Eden Hazard.

But... LOL on the above.
Either you didn’t watch Hazard’s world class performance in the World Cup, or you have a severe case of Liverpool Homerism. Or both.

There’s a reason why rumors of a $200M offer from Barça are flying. And it’s certainly not for Mane’s services.

Edit: Real Madrid, not Barça.
 
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@Ketchum - Quality performance from Liverpool today. I give you permission to dream big. ;)

A little too early to dream big. They easily beat lowly West Ham at home, which was what was expected of them.
They will probably have depth issues once Premiere League + Cup + Champions League are in full swing.
And... as much as I dislike Man City, they’re still the top dog and team to beat.
 
Finding the complete truth is what matters
Ketch, second week in a row with some of your best writing. EVERY person associated with our and their athletic departments, EVERY recruit needs to read what you’ve written and educated on this very subject sans propaganda. Hell, if he’s important enough to us I would invite Garrett to lunch for an unofficial and tell him the truth. That kid has every jackas$$ Ohio St t-shirt fan crawling all over this like flies crawling on a big pile of crap. The lack of intellectual honesty is quite mesmerizing... you almost have to suspend disbelief.
 
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No. 9 - The List: Top 10 Tom Cruise performances ...

Is Tom Cruise the most underrated movie star of all-time?

After watching "Mission Impossible: Fallout" earlier this week (solid B), I started kicking around this idea a little. He's not the most accomplished actor of all-time, as he doesn't have a single Oscar. Clearly, he's no Daniel Day-Lewis. However, when you look at is best work, he's got a resume that will stand the time of history.

Here's my list:

10. Ron Kovic (Born on the Fourth of July)
9. Vincent (Collateral)
8. Joel (Risky Business)
7. Frank T.J. Mackey (Magnolia)
6. Jerry McGuire (Jerry McGuire)
5. Ethan Hunt (Mission Impossible)
4. Lt. Daniel Kaffee (A Few Good Men)
3. Charlie Babbitt (Rain Man)
2. Les Grosman (Tropic Thunder)
1. Maverick (Top Gun)

No. 10 – And Finally ...

This is the hero that America needs right now.

#9...
Vincent in Color of Money needs to be there somewhere & has any actor ever had 2 great Vincent roles ?

#10...
I've been needing a new username...make it "I Hit Dingers"

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