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Pure horse sheet. If you are not man enough or moral enough to police yourself then others (OU administration, NCAA, Courts) should do it for you. His salary doesn't excuse his choices nor suspend his conscience (if he has one).Originally posted by MikeCorleone:
Let's get real: OU pays Bob Stoops $5.25 million a year to win football games. If the administration doesn't care to stop him he can't be blamed for taking the best talent he can find. This is pro sports.
This is the correct choice. I'd go with Calvin but I'd understand taking Demaryius. I wouldn't consider a QB until Brees/Manning/Rodgers in the 3rd round. Wide receivers have a much lower bust rate than running backs and there are too many good QBs capable of finishing as top five fantasy QBs this year to take a QB in the first (Andy Dalton finished 5th and Phillip Rivers 6th last year)Originally posted by Helmet Boy:
I would take either Demaryius Thomas or Calvin Johnson.
Why do people consider taking non-Peyton Manning QB's before the 5th round? It's like failing Fantasy Football 101.
Surely you or maybe Anwar can find someone to run this up the national flagpole. What Stoops is doing is disgusting, it's a national story.Originally posted by Ketchum:
The bottom line is that these things cannot be allowed to take place in the shadows. If Stoops wants to take this position with his program, he needs to be 100-percent honest with the public about it as well. The media as a whole giving him a free pass on the matter is insulting.
Being a dick seems to be the norm in Youngstown. I bought a business that brought with it some shareholders from there. Their attitude seems to be that since they're tough blue collar guys from the other side of the tracks, they're entitled to ignore moralities.Originally posted by PBR_StreetGang:
Still waiting to hear accounts of a prominent coach with Youngstown, Ohio ties that isn't a complete tool at his core. They seem to breed people like that there.
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What will be the feedback Strong gets if he goes 7-6 his first three years, but with great kids and a squeeky clean program?Originally posted by psychotiger:
Pure horse sheet. If you are not man enough or moral enough to police yourself then others (OU administration, NCAA, Courts) should do it for you. His salary doesn't excuse his choices nor suspend his conscience (if he has one).Originally posted by MikeCorleone:
Let's get real: OU pays Bob Stoops $5.25 million a year to win football games. If the administration doesn't care to stop him he can't be blamed for taking the best talent he can find. This is pro sports.
He will be handed his walking papers, and this board will be complaining about having a team full of choir boys just as we have in the past. If you can win and run a clean program, that's what you prefer, but if you can only do one of those things it better be win.Originally posted by MikeCorleone:
What will be the feedback Strong gets if he goes 7-6 his first three years, but with great kids and a squeeky clean program?Originally posted by psychotiger:
Pure horse sheet. If you are not man enough or moral enough to police yourself then others (OU administration, NCAA, Courts) should do it for you. His salary doesn't excuse his choices nor suspend his conscience (if he has one).Originally posted by MikeCorleone:
Let's get real: OU pays Bob Stoops $5.25 million a year to win football games. If the administration doesn't care to stop him he can't be blamed for taking the best talent he can find. This is pro sports.
Exactly. If foster is there hell be there in the next round. My league is ppr but I got him in the 4th.Originally posted by Fuddy:
It also blows my mind that someone would consider taking Foster that earlyOriginally posted by Helmet Boy:
I would take either Demaryius Thomas or Calvin Johnson.
Why do people consider taking non-Peyton Manning QB's before the 5th round? It's like failing Fantasy Football
Yeah I mean there are running backs being taken in the 5th round who are just as likely to outproduce him than not imo (Matthews, Gerhart, Rice, Richardson, Fred Jackson, etc).Originally posted by JBR2009:
Exactly. If foster is there hell be there in the next round. My league is ppr but I got him in the 4th.Originally posted by Fuddy:
It also blows my mind that someone would consider taking Foster that earlyOriginally posted by Helmet Boy:
I would take either Demaryius Thomas or Calvin Johnson.
Why do people consider taking non-Peyton Manning QB's before the 5th round? It's like failing Fantasy Football
It's not just the sooners, I think it's pretty much college football in general that gets a pass. Especially if there are no formal legal charges in place. This stuff gets huge attention on the NFL, but it typically barely registers at the college ranks. Not sure why though. I think it hits more for the NFL because the media likes to make the NFL look foolish.Originally posted by thehornluva:
great piece on the sooners. it is a little baffling to me that this isn't getting media attention. its as if the sooners get a pass because nobody outside of oklahoma and texas really care what's going on there.
There's no time to report on something like that.Originally posted by thehornluva:
great piece on the sooners. it is a little baffling to me that this isn't getting media attention. its as if the sooners get a pass because nobody outside of oklahoma and texas really care what's going on there.
a. I have a real problem with that ideology.Originally posted by bubba2023:
It's not just the sooners, I think it's pretty much college football in general that gets a pass. Especially if there are no formal legal charges in place. This stuff gets huge attention on the NFL, but it typically barely registers at the college ranks. Not sure why though. I think it hits more for the NFL because the media likes to make the NFL look foolish.Originally posted by thehornluva:
great piece on the sooners. it is a little baffling to me that this isn't getting media attention. its as if the sooners get a pass because nobody outside of oklahoma and texas really care what's going on there.
a. I'm with you on Demaryius. It's a contract year and he has Manning. Watch the hell out.Originally posted by Fuddy:
This is the correct choice. I'd go with Calvin but I'd understand taking Demaryius. I wouldn't consider a QB until Brees/Manning/Rodgers in the 3rd round. Wide receivers have a much lower bust rate than running backs and there are too many good QBs capable of finishing as top five fantasy QBs this year to take a QB in the first (Andy Dalton finished 5th and Phillip Rivers 6th last year)Originally posted by Helmet Boy:
I would take either Demaryius Thomas or Calvin Johnson.
Why do people consider taking non-Peyton Manning QB's before the 5th round? It's like failing Fantasy Football 101.
It also blows my mind that someone would consider taking Foster that early
If you absolutely have to take a running back there, I'd go with Murray
Well, the PPR league is a important piece of the equation. He ain't lasting until the 4th in standard leagues, not even close.Originally posted by JBR2009:
Exactly. If foster is there hell be there in the next round. My league is ppr but I got him in the 4th.Originally posted by Fuddy:
It also blows my mind that someone would consider taking Foster that earlyOriginally posted by Helmet Boy:
I would take either Demaryius Thomas or Calvin Johnson.
Why do people consider taking non-Peyton Manning QB's before the 5th round? It's like failing Fantasy Football
Probably not if you are limiting it to acts of violence against women, but you can certainly look around and find programs that have their share of terribly rotten apples and don't do anything about it.Originally posted by Ketchum:
a. I have a real problem with that ideology.Originally posted by bubba2023:
It's not just the sooners, I think it's pretty much college football in general that gets a pass. Especially if there are no formal legal charges in place. This stuff gets huge attention on the NFL, but it typically barely registers at the college ranks. Not sure why though. I think it hits more for the NFL because the media likes to make the NFL look foolish.Originally posted by thehornluva:
great piece on the sooners. it is a little baffling to me that this isn't getting media attention. its as if the sooners get a pass because nobody outside of oklahoma and texas really care what's going on there.
b. I don't think if we look around CFB that we'll find a situation quite like the ones Stoops has created.
So you're increasing TDs scores for QBs by two points a game, and I'm assuming this is a 12 QB league. Let's say we are comparing the #1 overall QB to the #12 overall. Let's say Peyton passes for 45 TDs and the #12 QB (lets say Jay Cutler) passes for 30 TDs. That's a 30 point differential throughout the whole season, so about 2 points per game. To me that's not enough to justify taking a QB in the first round when you can get Cutler/Romo/RGIII/Foles/Ryan etc in something like rounds 6-8.Originally posted by Ketchum:
a. I'm with you on Demaryius. It's a contract year and he has Manning. Watch the hell out.Originally posted by Fuddy:
This is the correct choice. I'd go with Calvin but I'd understand taking Demaryius. I wouldn't consider a QB until Brees/Manning/Rodgers in the 3rd round. Wide receivers have a much lower bust rate than running backs and there are too many good QBs capable of finishing as top five fantasy QBs this year to take a QB in the first (Andy Dalton finished 5th and Phillip Rivers 6th last year)Originally posted by Helmet Boy:
I would take either Demaryius Thomas or Calvin Johnson.
Why do people consider taking non-Peyton Manning QB's before the 5th round? It's like failing Fantasy Football 101.
It also blows my mind that someone would consider taking Foster that early
If you absolutely have to take a running back there, I'd go with Murray
b. In a 6-point passing touchdown league, having one of the Big 3 makes a big difference. I can't get into my methods too much because i have too many guys in my league that read this, but I have a very sabermetric way of looking at FF team building and having a guy that is almost a sure-fire 25+ points each week cannot be overplayed.
c. Dalton and Rivers don't prove what you think they prove IMO. Yes, you can get a top 5 guy in theory by waiting, but then it's guesswork and luck at that point. The Big 3 eliminate the guesswork.
I'm really hoping Graham falls to me.
He's certainly under consideration.Originally posted by rich0471:
Calvin Johnson