Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (Don't be surprised when these things happen...)
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Ron Dayne broke Ricky Williams' NCAA career yardage record. Do you think Ron Dayne is a better running back than Ricky Williams? You should, based on the logic you are using to push Emmitt Smith as the best RB of all time.
Emmitt was extremely tough and durable, and he fit really well into the offensive system the Cowboys ran. But he played on teams that were light years better than any of the other great backs ever played on. You have to look deeper than yards.
I can find any number of polls that name Jim Brown, or Walter Payton, or Barry Sanders as the best running back of all time. Show us one credible poll that names Emmitt Smith number 1.
Jerry Rice had a great line, with a HOF QB Pro Bowl RBs taking away a lot of heat. Not to mention great TE play.
James Lofton largely played with a dogshat team during his career. And yet James averaged more YPC than Jerry. Seems very logical to me that James' stats would be enhanced greatly by being on those 49ers teams.
Homer Jones averaged more yards per catch, too. No doubt at all that at their prime, Homer was better than Jerry, but he didn’t last long enough to make the case emphatically.
Except that, on average, Walter gained more yards than Emmitt every time he carried the ball, and he did so with teammates over the course of his career that exactly zero people in NFL history would say matched up to the talent of Emmitt’s teammates.
But other than that, sure...
It's hard to have the yards per carry average be high when your team calls upon you to convert the most important carries of the game, like third or fourth and short and on the goal line. It's a much easier task when your head coaches take you out of the game for those most important carries.
That's such an intellectually dishonest post.
As if Smith's ace up his sleeve is merely his rushing yards... you're not making debate great again.
How many years did Jerry Rice have an MVP Quarterback? Or multiple all pro lineman and and all pro running backs?
Take off the Red colored glasses. You can't win this not sure any NFL analysts would agree with you. Stick to your expertise college football
It's a damn shame Walter wasn't as big in the playoffs or in big games as Emmitt.
It's not Emmitt's fault that he carried a team on his back in a Super Bowl and Walter never did.
It'snot Emmitt's fault that Walter couldn't make his linemen as good as Emmitt made his.
Question for those of you that believe Emmitt's line made him and not the other way around.
What year did Nate Newton join the Cowboys? Mark Tuinei? Kevin Grogan? Mark Stepnoski?
What year did all of them start to earn accolades and recognition as good players?
What year was Larry Allen drafted? How many Super Bowls had Emmitt won at the time of his being drafted?
What year did Nate Newton join the Cowboys? Mark Tuinei? Kevin Grogan? Mark Stepnoski?
What year did all of them start to earn accolades and recognition as good players?
What year was Larry Allen drafted? How many Super Bowls had Emmitt won at the time of his being drafted?
Agreed, there were times at the end of games in crunch time that Sanders wouldn’t be on the field. That was never the case with Emmitt.
Jeebus, people.
Practice starts on Friday and the thread is immediately derailed by shitty Cowboy talk.
Practice starts on Friday and the thread is immediately derailed by shitty Cowboy talk.
You don't think comparing Ron Dayne and Ricky Williams, what they did in college, which one is really a better running back and citing their relative yards gained in college, as a comparison to you're pushing Emmitt Smith as the greatest back of all time based on his numbers, is applying standards of rational evaluation to the discussion at hand?
Really?
The definition of intellectual dishonestly is judging others or their opinions more critically than you judge your own. That would be you, Ketch.
@Ketchum and @Anwar Richardson you two have both posted positive videos of pibulls this week. That's not permitted here
What are you talking about I was discussing wide receivers.
Again, you just skip right past the point that was rightfully made and delve into tomfoolery.
Just mention Emmitt and watch Cowboys haters’ heads explode everywhere. They foam and froth at the mouth, yet are incapable of intelligently, logically assailing Emmitt’s resume and greatness.
Look up Emmitt’s YAC and tell me again how he had it so easy, or that he wasn’t great. Go look at Emmitt’s highlight tapes and tell me he was just some spare who only succeeded because of his line. I put his highlight tapes up against anyone’s. Anyone’s.
Look up Emmitt’s YAC and tell me again how he had it so easy, or that he wasn’t great. Go look at Emmitt’s highlight tapes and tell me he was just some spare who only succeeded because of his line. I put his highlight tapes up against anyone’s. Anyone’s.
To be fair, you can't put Emmitt's Super Bowl highlights up against Barry Sanders'.
???? Troy Aikman got sacked only 46 times between 94 and 96. He had a great offensive line. Smith carries a team to a Super bowl with 158 total yards and it is a signature moment but Brown has 151 total yards in the 64 Championship game well in your eyes it was not a signature moment. What is the difference?
