Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (My prom, Charlie Strong and Tom Herman)
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Charlie developed D'Onta??? You have to be kidding. Foreman is an instinctive back - he wasn't developed. Running back is an instinctive position. The greats all see and do things you can't coach. Warren has said D'Onta sees and hits holes he doesn't even see. Charlie hardly played him as a freshman when he was already identifiable as the only back on the team with any burst. He played him behind Gray as a sophomore when it was obvious he was a far more talented player. He had him splitting time with Warren when again it was obvious who the better player was. Foreman only got the chance to show how good he was because Warren was injured. Charlie replaced him with Swoopes at the goal line. Foreman succeeded in spite of Charlie, not because of him.
Foreman is Mack's recruit, as are all the other guys in the 2014 class that committed to Mack. Charlie did a decent job keeping Mack's class together but he did lose five. He added two Texas players to the class - Freeman and Rodriguez. Freeman held an offer since 2012, and Rodriguez was the lowest ranked player in the class. If Mack had not had a strong class in place 2014 would have been a recruiting disaster. Charlie knew nothing about recruiting Texas. To give him credit for the guys Mack recruited in that class is rediculous.
Hot Damn! Looks like TH has recruited Aaron Rodgers. I CAN relax!
Im truly not trying to be argumentative or a smartass, but, ... what positives?
Seriously, I think you have to dig very deep into the "nice bag" to find any meaningful positives from the last three years.
Maybe, just maybe, his last recruiting year (Feb 2016 class) will turn out to be a positive. I suppose time will tell one way or the other.
Thanks Ketch, enjoyable as always.
I will say that if Herman doesn't pass Mack as an all time UT coach, 90% of Orangebloods will view the Herman era as a disappointment
We may have unrealistically high expectations, but I bet most of us are thinking at least 1 NC and more than 3 conference titles.
I will say that if Herman doesn't pass Mack as an all time UT coach, 90% of Orangebloods will view the Herman era as a disappointment
We may have unrealistically high expectations, but I bet most of us are thinking at least 1 NC and more than 3 conference titles.
I am happy to give CS credit for those he recruited - the additions to the 2014 class, the 2015 class, the 2016 class, and the seven members of the 2017 class. There is a huge difference in the amount of work required to gain a commitment vs the amount of work to keep the kid committed.
My emotional makeup is fine. All I am doing is expressing a difference of opinion. I am not attacking anyones values, sanity, or emotional makeup.
No.. Im just saying that Sabans 10th year has resulted in unrivaled fruit... and their war chest is loaded for years to come... I hope Tom can knock him on his ass... LONG way to go...
THe bar is sky high, that's for sure.Thanks Ketch, enjoyable as always.
I will say that if Herman doesn't pass Mack as an all time UT coach, 90% of Orangebloods will view the Herman era as a disappointment
We may have unrealistically high expectations, but I bet most of us are thinking at least 1 NC and more than 3 conference titles.
I still say that Charlie knew he was on the way out and the 10 win game and national championship talk was just his way of getting one last shot and zinger in there on the way out!
I still say that Charlie knew he was on the way out and the 10 win game and national championship talk was just his way of getting one last shot and zinger in there on the way out!
I suppose like the outlaw with the noose around his neck on the gallows begging to the Sheriff that if they will let him go, he will take them to the hidden stagecoach lockbox and all the money. Fortunately, the Sheriff knew the stagecoach hadn't been robbed.
Charlie knew what he was doing by making those comments.I still say that Charlie knew he was on the way out and the 10 win game and national championship talk was just his way of getting one last shot and zinger in there on the way out!
At no point did he ever make specific declarations about expectations in any season, except the one he knew he probably wouldn't be coaching.
Fair enough, but that's the company we're talking about. I would say for today's modern game, Thomas might be the better prototype.
That's not to say that Lott couldn't cover and didn't have range because he was a high-level cornerback at one point, but I would contend Thomas has more range than Lott.
