Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (Oops... I did it again!)

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This may be sacrilege but did The Shining age well? I had very fond memories and we rewatched with our kids (18 and 16) over quarantine and they were very underwhelmed.
I say yes.
 

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Holy shit, I just read that story for the first time. EPIC! I had the exact same experience in Columbus.

Does this site have a thread for epic posts? There have to be about 15-20 like this one that NEED to live through the ages.
 

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Holy shit, I just read that story for the first time. EPIC! I had the exact same experience in Columbus.

Does this site have a thread for epic posts? There have to be about 15-20 like this one that NEED to live through the ages.
This is like the BC post about Iowa State's creation of a new logo from about 10 years ago. My buddy and I have Outlook reminders to re-read that article every time before Texas and Iowa State play in football. Classic.
 

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Holy shit, I just read that story for the first time. EPIC! I had the exact same experience in Columbus.

Does this site have a thread for epic posts? There have to be about 15-20 like this one that NEED to live through the ages.
Classics board.
 

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I'm not sure that I would not classify most skill position players in HS as "ATH". Especially WR, DB's. Most play both ways in HS.

Also, HS WR's usually just out athlete the competition at that level. It's not until they get to college that they have to improve route running significantly in order to separate and gain the advantage on the route. Just MHO.

Oh and Russell Wilson >>>>>>>> Dak Prescott (and I like Dak)
 

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I'm not sure that I would not classify most skill position players in HS as "ATH". Especially WR, DB's. Most play both ways in HS.

Also, HS WR's usually just out athlete the competition at that level. It's not until they get to college that they have to improve route running significantly in order to separate and gain the advantage on the route. Just MHO.

Oh and Russell Wilson >>>>>>>> Dak Prescott (and I like Dak)
The state mis much classified per prospect than it used to be. There were more pure athletes 20 years ago.
 

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The state mis much classified per prospect than it used to be. There were more pure athletes 20 years ago.
Maybe because more kids played multiple sports year round.
 

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I remember that post well. Accurately describes every visit I have made for a Horns game in Fayetteville. I don't plan to go back either.

I know this has been asked before, but I don't remember the answer: what ever happened to Frank the Tank?
 

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Seriously Ketch, did you write that? Are you the (in)famous Frank the Tank? Was this one of your burner accounts??!
Yes, I am Frank (The Tank).

Almost all of my burner accounts back in the day where movie characters.
 

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That might prove to be the case with both of them. One is just 5 years younger.
His contract is a whole lot better than the one Dak will sign. Tops out at around 27 mill per season. Are you high or something? Wth are talking about a bad contract
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His contract is a whole lot better than the one Dak will sign. Tops out at around 27 mill per season. Are you high or something? Wth are talking about a bad contract
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This is what I'm talking about. Are YOU high? Can I join you?

The number in the third column from the right is each year's cap number.

From 32 million to 37 million to 40 million.

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Come on...
Easy Rider
Hoffa
even Witches of Eastwick was a great J.N. role
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Terms is ahead of A Few Good Men (his role was small in this movie)
 

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Come on...
Easy Rider
Hoffa
even Witches of Eastwick was a great J.N. role
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Terms is ahead of A Few Good Men (his role was small in this movie)
His A Few Good Men role is more iconic and more re-watchable all these years later.
 

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While recording this week's Orangebloods Modcast, @Alex Dunlap and I found ourselves stuck in a discussion about the value of high school wide receivers from the state of Texas.

On one hand, no position translates into NFL success at a lower rate. From 2002-2016, only 6 of the top 30 wide receivers in the Rivals rankings in this state played in the NFL.

20 percent. That's bad.

On the other hand, 38 different in-state prospects played receiver last season in the NFL, meaning every franchise likely had at least one.

That's kind of incredible.

But, how the hell can that be possible?

Before we get too far in, let me just hit you with a few data points to file away:

* 0 of the 3 (0.0%) five-star prospects from 2002-16 played in the NFL
* 4 of the 15 (26.7%) high four-star prospects from 2002-16 played in the NFL
* 2 of the 12 (16.7%) mid four-star prospects from 2002-16 played in the NFL
* 4 of the 40 (10.0%) low four-star prospects from 2002-16 played in the NFL

So, where are those 38 current NFL players coming from? Check it out...

* Was listed as an "Athlete" or at another position in the Rivals Database

6.1 Five stars (1)

* Russell Shepard (Cy Ridge - 2009)

6.0 High Four Stars (2)

Devin Duvernay (Sachse - 2016)
CeeDee Lamb (Richmond Foster - 2017)

5.9 Mid Four Stars (1)

Tyrie Cleveland (Houston Westfield - 2016)

5.8 Low Four Stars (4)

Marcell Ateman (Wylie East - 2013)
Corey Coleman (Richardson Pearce - 2012)
Quartney Davis (Langham Creek - 2016)
Jalen Reagor (Waxahachie - 2017)

5.7 High Three stars (7)

KeKe Coutee (Lufkin - 2015)
Marquise Goodwin (Rowlett - 2009)
Jalen Guyton (Allen - 2015)
* Lil'Jordan Humphrey (Southlake Carroll - 2016)
Marcus Johnson (Clear Springs - 2012)
Denzel Mims (Daingerfield - 2016)
James Proche (DeSoto - 2015)

5.6 Mid Three stars (4)

Josh Gordon (Houston Lamar - 2009)
Jakeem Grant (Mesquite Horn - 2011)
Chris Lacy (DeSoto - 2014)
Laviska Shenault (DeSoto - 2017)

5.5 Low Three stars (8)

Danny Amendola (The Woodlands - 2004)
Josh Doctson (Mansfield Legacy - 2011)
* Mike Evans (Galveston Ball - 2011)
* Courtland Sutton (Brenham - 2014)
* Greg Ward, Jr. (John Tyler - 2013)
James Washington (Stamford - 2014)
Dede Westbrook (Cameron - 2012)
Antoine Wesley (Cibolo Steele - 2016)

Two stars (8)

Cole Beasley (Little Elm - 2008)
Ryan Grant (Beaumont Westbrook - 2009)
Rashard Higgins (Mesquite - 2013)
Zay Jones (Austin High - 2013)
Darvin Kidsy (FB Elkins - 2013)
Josh Reynolds (SA Jay - 2013)
Emmanuel Sanders (Bellville - 2005)
Steven Sims (FB Travis - 2015)

Unrated (3)

Taylor Gabriel (Mesquite Horn - 2009)
David Moore (Gainesville - 2013)
Damion Ratley (Yoakum - 2013)

No. 2 - Ok, let's talk about what it all means ...

* Five stars make up 2.4% of the list, while four stars (18.4%), three-stars (50.0%), two stars (21.1%) and unrated (7.9%) players make up the majority of the players on the current NFL list. To give you some perspective on a very broad level, the distribution of star rankings each year looks a little like this: 5 stars (1.0%), 4 stars (9.0%), 3 stars (35.0%) and two stars (55.0%).

* The easiest way to process all of the info is that four-star wide receiver prospects from the state have produced at the levels of three-star receiver prospects, while high three-star receiver prospects have performed like high four stars in a two-year window from 2015-16. A freakishly absurd number of two-stars/unrated players from 2013 (6) caused an anomaly similar to the week of ice/snow we witnessed recently.

* Beyond those two quirks, there's not a lot that stands out about the three- and two-stars on the list. For instance, the sheer volume of three-star receiver prospects each year (between 20-25) from Texas help produce when you consider that the rates are otherwise fairly in line with the national numbers. For instance, I could tell you that Texas should offer all high three-star prospects based on five of 14 emerging (35.6%) as NFL players in 2015-16, but only 1 of the previous 22 from 2010-2014 made NFL rosters. A quick glance at the 2017 class of high three stars reveals that it might prove to be an 0 for 7 group when it comes to producing NFL talent (or even decent college players).

* While the true five-star receiver prospect from the state of Texas has been pretty rare from 2002-16 and the production from the three we've seen is not good enough, the historical success rate will climb once 2018 star Jaylen Waddle is drafted in the first round. It'll be interesting to see what happens with 2019's Theo Wease and Trejan Bridges (both at Oklahoma), along with 2020's Demond Demas and Jaxon Smith-Njigba in the coming years because this group of four players will determine how the position is remembered in future years.

Note: 2017's CeeDee Lamb and 2019's Garrett Wilson were both rated as five stars in my personal rankings, while Rivals rated them both high four-stars.

No. 3 - Holy Aledo! ...

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The recruiting momentum for the 2022 class continued on Sunday when Aledo defensive back Bryan (B.J.) Allen Jr. gave his verbal commitment to the Longhorns.

A few things that stand out.

* I currently have Allen rated as a 5.8-level four-star prospect. He's not a guy that jumps off the film all the time with wow moments as much as he constantly impresses with his physical frame, closing speed and flashes of playmaking skills in coverage on a play in and play out basis. I think the biggest impression that he makes on me is the potential that exists if he puts it all together at the next level. Off the hoof, he looks the part of a player that could emerge down the road as an NFL-level talent.

* No position group within the state of Texas produces more NFL talent from the top recruiting tier than the defensive back position. A four-star defensive back prospect from Texas in the last 15 years has developed at near five-star levels when it comes to reaching the NFL.

* As I mentioned last week, the numbers in the Texas DB class might get tight, especially when you consider that Bryce Anderson and Denver Harris will have spots reserved. Unless Texas decides to take six defensive backs, the Longhorns could be in a position where they are down to one spot left, unless they lose out on Anderson/Harris. If you want to be in Austin as a defensive back, you better get in soon.

No. 4 - Things I Thought This Weekend about Recruiting ...

* We might not be able to definitively say that Maalik Murphy is better than any of his peers at the top of the 2022 class until he plays more 11 vs. 11, but when it comes to pure arm talent, he's at the top of his class.

* Hudson Card is the quarterback prospect from the state in the last few years that warranted a sixth star in recruiting (if such a thing existed). None of the national recruiting services agreed with me in real time, but he's the best quarterback talent the state of Texas has produced since 2015 (Kyler Murray). I ain't scared. Put me on the record.

* In a world where Brenen Thompson is a legit 10.12 guy in the 100 meters, we're probably talking about a 5-star prospect. In a world where he's popping off a 10.4, we're still likely talking about a national top 50-level prospect. Over the weekend, he finished second at a meet with a time of 11.22. Consider me slightly perplexed. I'm fascinated at the rest of his track season. I'll be watching for his times weekly.

* Speaking of track times I'm dying to see, put new 2023 commit Reuben Owens II in that category, especially when you consider that he ran an 11.71 this weekend at the Needville Relays (also long jumped 20-7 and tripled jumped 42-2). When you look at his film, he's on a completely different level than all of the kids he's playing against. In fact, his film is so absurd at times that it's tough to quantify exactly what we're seeing when it comes to raw explosiveness. I'm just curious about what level of freak we're talking about. Back in the day, Adrian Peterson popped off a 10.33 in the Class 4A 100 Meter final as a junior. Reggie Bush was a 10.43 guy (fastest in California at the time). I don't know what my expectations are for Owens, but I'd certainly like to see him run better by the end of the year than 11.71.

* Evan Stewart is mega-talented.


No. 5 - About The Remaining Transfer Spots...

@Anwar Richardson's conversation with Alabama transfer target Ben Davis on Sunday was a reminder that what happens with the final three available transfer spots is really important.

(The cliff-notes on Davis is that he wants to take his time with his re-recruitment and will announce a top five at some point in March before making a decision at an undefined time later this spring. Texas is one of about a dozen schools that are showing interest.)

Texas coach Steve Sarkisian has mentioned that the program has four spots, but one of those will be taken by Notre Dame DE/OLB transfer Ovie Oghoufo, so we're really looking at three spots.

Although the Longhorns are likely going to have an open-minded approach, in a perfect world Texas would beef up the linebacker and offensive line situations if possible. The interest in Tennessee running back Eric Gray a few weeks ago showed that the Longhorns will take a player if the player is talented enough to justify using one of those three spots.

With players like Davis, who Alabama insiders described as non-impactful, the thing the staff has to consider is whether he's the best that they can acquire leading into the summer. It's possible that in May, Davis will be the best depth addition that Sarkisian and Co. can make, but for the next 6-8 weeks, don't be surprised if we're watching a bit of a slow burn.

Any player that they would take now is probably someone they view as a "no-doubt-about-it" kind of improvement on the depth chart, and based on the slow movement inside the portal, we're probably not going to see a lot of action take place for a few months.

No. 6 - Not tripping about what happened in Lubbock ...

Shaka Smart's team lost a game that it fought valiantly in because this team will just self-destruct in clumsy fashion sometimes.

It doesn't happen in every game, but it happened Saturday after it happened against West Virginia last week. Frankly, it’s frequent enough that whenever this season ends, I'm 85-percent certain it will be self-inflicted.

Consider it a matter of when and not if.

Yet, that's the Tournament and with all due respect to games like the one that was played yesterday... it doesn't really matter at this point in the season. The Longhorns can win the final three games of this season and then win the conference tournament, but if it loses in the second round of the Big Dance, the season will be a failure.

Likewise, if it loses its final three games and flames out quickly in the Big 12 Tournament, but then finds a way to make it to the Sweet 16, all the bitching and complaining from this week (and other weeks) won’t matter much.

So, I’m simply shrugging my shoulders this weekend. I can't take my eye off the real piece of conversation that will ultimately define this season.

It sure as hell won't be anything related to what happened in Lubbock.

No. 7 – BUY or SELL …


(Buy) Easily, IMO.


(Sell) But, a dreaded 5 vs. 12 type of match-up looms and unless the Texas guards get it together soon, I might change my mind.


(Sell) He'll be fine.


(Sell) Sark put together a No.1-ranked class at USC and hired a very good recruiting staff. There are a lot of things in play that have led to the momentum, but I wouldn't put the Ohio State game at the top of the list.


(Buy) But, don't underestimate the buzz of that week two game. It'll be a big deal.


(Sell) I don't think that can be taken for granted.


(Sell) I'm going to say it takes a little more time.


(Sell) That would be an issue in year two, not year one. Just see Charlie Strong and Tom Herman for evidence.

No. 8 - Scattershooting on the world of sports...

... Ummmm... if Arik Gilbert is leaving Florida and possibly the SEC... Texas needs to go get him if at all possible. Texas does not want that dude at Oklahoma, that's for sure. Maybe he'll talk with Ray Thornton.

... It won't make much difference when the season is over, but the women's basketball team actually suffered a worse loss this weekend than the men.

... I have a feeling Jim Harbaugh might commit a homicide this fall with Alan Bowman as his quarterback over 12 games. Bowman can make a "wow" and "No, Danny, no" play within seconds of each other, and it'll be Harbaugh's job to harness the "wow" moments. NO offense to Tech, but Bowman just upgraded big-time.

... This kid is next-level amazing.


... Kansas beating Baylor this weekend reminded me of the second round of the fight between Rocky Balboa/Ivan Drago when Rocky cuts the Russian and Duke screams at him that Drago isn't a machine and that he's a man.

... Cade Cunningham did the damn thing in Norman on Saturday with a 40-point monster. The two teams play again on Monday, and it feels like must-watch stuff.

... I never thought I'd say this, but I wouldn't trade Dak Prescott for Russell Wilson.

... Thank you Sheffield United for serving as a mini slump buster for Liverpool.

... What do you even say about the Tiger Woods situation? I just hope he's able to have some sort of normal life and be able to play golf with his kid.

No. 9 - The List: Top 10 Jack Nicholson movies ...

It seems like the actor lists the last couple of weeks have been running hot, so I'll keep playing the hits this week.

10. Five Easy Pieces
9. The Last Detail
8. Batman
7. As Good As It Gets
6. The Departed
5. Terms of Endearment
4. Chinatown
3. A Few Good Men
2. The Shining
1. One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest

No. 10 - And Finally ...

With the Golden Globes taking place on Sunday night, I thought I'd give you 5 thoughts on this year's Oscar's race.

* The four best movies I've seen so far this year are: Sound of Metal, Judas and the Black Messiah, Nomadland and Minari.

* It's either Chadwick Boseman (Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom or Riz Ahmed (Sound of Metal) for me in the Best Actor Department.

* Alan S. Kim (Minari) gives the best performance by a little kid that I can remember in a while. I love him.

* Pound for pound, give me Yuh-Jung Youn (Minari) for best overall acting performance in any category.

* Promising Young Woman or One Night in Miami is next on my to-watch-list.
Diverse 10 Thoughts this week sir 🙃
 

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I think in the history of the state in the last 25 years, I can probably count on a finger or two the number of players that banned out with his physical profile. Coming from such a small school does not help.
Well, maybe if you go back 40 years you can add another finger. He played DT/FB, was listed at 6'0" 235.... Jerry Ball. Was Desmond Jackson one of the other fingers?
Haha, I know the odds are against him but I am a big fan of guys that are good at shot put and triple jump. I guess kids like this really need to get into some camp settings where they can show what they can do against better talent. Don't know if he has or hasn't attended many.
Younger brother Dalton is reeling in big offers... We already have cousin Jonathon, might as well get all three.
 
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Good write up Ketch i agree the basketball season will be judged with how we do in the NCAA Smart has to win round 1 & needs to make sweet 16 but this team can be just so frustrating to watch at times.
I just started a thread asking wasn't Cunningham & Brown considered equals at the start of the season i know Cunningham was considered a top 3 pick but wasn't Brown thought of as a lottery pick no doubt Cunningham has lived up to the hype what happened to Brown
 

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Well, maybe if you go back 40 years you can add another finger. He played DT/FB, was listed at 6'0" 235.... Jerry Ball. Was Desmond Jackson one of the other fingers?
Haha, I know the odds are against him but I am a big fan of guys that are good at shot put and triple jump. I guess kids like this really need to get into some camp settings where they can show what they can do against better talent. Don't know if he has or hasn't attended many.
Younger brother Dalton is reeling in big offers... We already have cousin Jonathon, might as well get all three.
Ball is 6-1 and went to Beaumont Westbrook.
 

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Good write up Ketch i agree the basketball season will be judged with how we do in the NCAA Smart has to win round 1 & needs to make sweet 16 but this team can be just so frustrating to watch at times.
I just started a thread asking wasn't Cunningham & Brown considered equals at the start of the season i know Cunningham was considered a top 3 pick but wasn't Brown thought of as a lottery pick no doubt Cunningham has lived up to the hype what happened to Brown
No, they weren't viewed as the same or even close to the same. Cunningham has always been seen as the No.1 overall pick in the draft, while Brown was seen as a possible lottery pick.
 

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Okay Ketch..... Laughable or reasonable?

If the Washington football team get themselves a really good Quarterback, then strike up the Washington brass band and break out the hog dresses and the pig snout face masks, happy days are here again like in the halcyon days of Joe Gibbs and Riggo Riggins and Joe Theismann?
 
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Okay Ketch..... Laughable or reasonable?

If the Washington football team get themselves a really good Quarterback, then strike up and break out the hog dresses and the pig snout face masks, happy days are here again like in the halcyon days of Joe Gibbs and Riggo Riggins and Joe Theismann?
reasonable