LOL Charlie...just be quite...stop talking...

[madcow12]

He is the posterchild for putting his foot in his mouth.

Charlie Strong probably shouldn't have used these words to praise Baylor's and TCU's offenses

Charlie Strong has some takes on why the Big 12 shifted to the high-flying offensive attacks that are all over the league. We want to warn you, the take has a radioactive heat to it and is unsafe for humans to handle without proper protection:

Brian Davis

✔ @BDavisAAS


Strong on the Big 12 being a spread league: "When people saw what Baylor and TCU was doing with lesser athletes, everybody jumped on board."

11:31 AM - 10 Oct 2016
We get what he means — until the last few years, Baylor and TCU often ranked near the middle of the country in recruiting, well behind teams like Texas and Oklahoma — but there’s going to be some egg on Charlie’s face. Remember, Baylor beat Texas in 2013 and 2014, and TCU has beaten Texas in three of the last four meetings.

Apparently, TCU coach Gary Patterson noticed the shade coming from Austin.



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1:09 PM - 10 Oct 2016

Coincidentally, both coaches come from a defensive background and shifted to the wide-open offense after entering the Big 12. Texas went through a saga last offseason and ended up turning to Sterlin Gilbert, who has the Longhorns as the No. 20 offense in yardsper game.


Of course, the retweet has mysteriously vanished from Patterson’s page, but the point has been noted. You can expect when the two teams meet on Nov. 25, Patterson may throw some extra salt into the wound if the Horned Frogs get ahead. Maybe that’ll teach Charlie to choose his words a bit more wisely next time.

 

[bubba2023]

I agree that's a stupid comment. Not sure of the context or what Strong was really meaning to say, but at face value it's not even remotely accurate.

TCU and Baylor weren't using lesser athletes. They were using unheralded athletes because the ranking system of players is flawed, and a lot of insanely athletic players fall through the cracks. Athletically speaking their guys matched up with anyone, but no one had heard of them because they weren't in a high school program that utilized them.

 

[madcow12]

I have to agree. What Baylor and TCU did was take kids that they evaluated and could see potential in and coached them up. I do not think they were lesser athletes but it is criminal what we are doing with 4 and 5 star kids...and I use criminal as a smart ass comment.

 

[bubba2023]

They recruited speed, so that was a lot of undersized guys that weren't up to snuff for the recruiting services, and recruiting services at the time (when I paid attention) were horrible at factoring in speed in their rankings. Fans translate lower rankings to mean lesser athletes, when in reality a lot were more athletic but smaller than the more heralded recruits fans clamored over.

They may be better now, but I don't pay any attention. When I signed up in 09 every top recruit ran a 4.4, and you think 6-2 210lbs and a 4.4 forty. He's a freak athlete. Then they get on campus and your like this guy is slow as Christmas, and is a 4.6-4.7 guy. Which is really fast in the high school ranks, but not so much in the college ranks. The guys that actually could run a 4.4 were probably 5-10 170lbs and no one wanted them. Rivals was the only game in town so they didn't really have to put much effort in.

 

[dtrain87]

Baylor's recruiting was taking off after a Heisman, two league titles and the uniforms and new stadium. If I played any offensive position I would have liked to play for Briles. They even got some talented kids on defense, look at the draft and two league titles.

 

[bubba2023]

Baylor's recruiting was taking off after a Heisman, two league titles and the uniforms and new stadium. If I played any offensive position I would have liked to play for Briles. They even got some talented kids on defense, look at the draft and two league titles.

Their recruiting rankings really started taking off but they were recruiting the same type of players. Their rankings took off when the services realized that being bigger and slower is not an advantage.

 

[4MNChampsHorn]

He is the posterchild for putting his foot in his mouth.

Charlie Strong probably shouldn't have used these words to praise Baylor's and TCU's offenses

Charlie Strong has some takes on why the Big 12 shifted to the high-flying offensive attacks that are all over the league. We want to warn you, the take has a radioactive heat to it and is unsafe for humans to handle without proper protection:

Brian Davis

✔ @BDavisAAS


Strong on the Big 12 being a spread league: "When people saw what Baylor and TCU was doing with lesser athletes, everybody jumped on board."

11:31 AM - 10 Oct 2016
We get what he means — until the last few years, Baylor and TCU often ranked near the middle of the country in recruiting, well behind teams like Texas and Oklahoma — but there’s going to be some egg on Charlie’s face. Remember, Baylor beat Texas in 2013 and 2014, and TCU has beaten Texas in three of the last four meetings.

Apparently, TCU coach Gary Patterson noticed the shade coming from Austin.



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Ben Kercheval @BenKercheval


THIS WILL PROBABLY END WELL

1:09 PM - 10 Oct 2016

Coincidentally, both coaches come from a defensive background and shifted to the wide-open offense after entering the Big 12. Texas went through a saga last offseason and ended up turning to Sterlin Gilbert, who has the Longhorns as the No. 20 offense in yardsper game.


Of course, the retweet has mysteriously vanished from Patterson’s page, but the point has been noted. You can expect when the two teams meet on Nov. 25, Patterson may throw some extra salt into the wound if the Horned Frogs get ahead. Maybe that’ll teach Charlie to choose his words a bit more wisely next time.

Yikes! He better win now. He basically said that having "lesser" athletes is no excuse for not scoring. Plus, Strong is our DC.

 

[madcow12]

I am with the writer, I think he was talking in the past when the spread was starting up and TCU and Baylor started to do it but Charlie just cant do anything right because he is under a microscope. I think he has just stumbled and bumbled himself out of a job and we are pass the point of no return.

 

[4MNChampsHorn]

http://www.burntorangenation.com/20...ie-strong-baylor-tcu-lesser-athletes#comments. This is a pretty good history lesson of the spread in the Big 12. Hint - it didn't start with Briles at Baylor in 2008 or TCU in 2012.

 

[freeper]

Thanks Charlie...I love you man, but your mouth might have written a check that our asses can't cover come November....

 

[BigHookem]

He is the posterchild for putting his foot in his mouth.

Charlie Strong probably shouldn't have used these words to praise Baylor's and TCU's offenses

Charlie Strong has some takes on why the Big 12 shifted to the high-flying offensive attacks that are all over the league. We want to warn you, the take has a radioactive heat to it and is unsafe for humans to handle without proper protection:

Brian Davis

✔ @BDavisAAS


Strong on the Big 12 being a spread league: "When people saw what Baylor and TCU was doing with lesser athletes, everybody jumped on board."

11:31 AM - 10 Oct 2016
We get what he means — until the last few years, Baylor and TCU often ranked near the middle of the country in recruiting, well behind teams like Texas and Oklahoma — but there’s going to be some egg on Charlie’s face. Remember, Baylor beat Texas in 2013 and 2014, and TCU has beaten Texas in three of the last four meetings.

Apparently, TCU coach Gary Patterson noticed the shade coming from Austin.



Follow
Ben Kercheval @BenKercheval


THIS WILL PROBABLY END WELL

1:09 PM - 10 Oct 2016

Coincidentally, both coaches come from a defensive background and shifted to the wide-open offense after entering the Big 12. Texas went through a saga last offseason and ended up turning to Sterlin Gilbert, who has the Longhorns as the No. 20 offense in yardsper game.


Of course, the retweet has mysteriously vanished from Patterson’s page, but the point has been noted. You can expect when the two teams meet on Nov. 25, Patterson may throw some extra salt into the wound if the Horned Frogs get ahead. Maybe that’ll teach Charlie to choose his words a bit more wisely next time.

He is the posterchild for putting his foot in his mouth.

Charlie Strong probably shouldn't have used these words to praise Baylor's and TCU's offenses

Charlie Strong has some takes on why the Big 12 shifted to the high-flying offensive attacks that are all over the league. We want to warn you, the take has a radioactive heat to it and is unsafe for humans to handle without proper protection:

Brian Davis

✔ @BDavisAAS


Strong on the Big 12 being a spread league: "When people saw what Baylor and TCU was doing with lesser athletes, everybody jumped on board."

11:31 AM - 10 Oct 2016
We get what he means — until the last few years, Baylor and TCU often ranked near the middle of the country in recruiting, well behind teams like Texas and Oklahoma — but there’s going to be some egg on Charlie’s face. Remember, Baylor beat Texas in 2013 and 2014, and TCU has beaten Texas in three of the last four meetings.

Apparently, TCU coach Gary Patterson noticed the shade coming from Austin.



Follow
Ben Kercheval @BenKercheval


THIS WILL PROBABLY END WELL

1:09 PM - 10 Oct 2016

Coincidentally, both coaches come from a defensive background and shifted to the wide-open offense after entering the Big 12. Texas went through a saga last offseason and ended up turning to Sterlin Gilbert, who has the Longhorns as the No. 20 offense in yardsper game.


Of course, the retweet has mysteriously vanished from Patterson’s page, but the point has been noted. You can expect when the two teams meet on Nov. 25, Patterson may throw some extra salt into the wound if the Horned Frogs get ahead. Maybe that’ll teach Charlie to choose his words a bit more wisely next time.

HOOKD ON FONIX WERKED FOR YEW!!!!! YEEHAW ON BEING 'QUITE'

 

[bubba2023]

I am with the writer, I think he was talking in the past when the spread was starting up and TCU and Baylor started to do it but Charlie just cant do anything right because he is under a microscope. I think he has just stumbled and bumbled himself out of a job and we are pass the point of no return.

I don't know what he was talking about. But the spread started up decades ago not just when Baylor and TCU have been good. Baylor got good with superior athletes. Griffin, Terrance Williams, Kendal Wright, Josh Gordon, Teven Reese off the top of my head. These guys fell through the cracks as far as recruiting for various reasons but not because they weren't athletic. I am guessing he meant less lauded recruits, but they weren't inferior athletes.

 

[diadevic]

Griffin, Terrance Williams, Kendal Wright, Josh Gordon, Teven Reese off the top of my head. These guys fell through the cracks as far as recruiting for various reasons but not because they weren't athletic. I am guessing he meant less lauded recruits, but they weren't inferior athletes.

I have stood next to Kendal Wright and Tevin Reese, and I swear they weren't 5'6". Tiny guys, but unbelievably fast AND quick. There aren't a lot of recruiting roads to Pittsburgh, Texas (where Wright is from) - you have to do your homework and have a network to find guys like these. There was a raging debate about Katy running backs on another thread - those bigger schools, and their players, get a disproportionate amount of publicity, but there are a lot of great athletes in this state if you dig AND are able to evaluate/project/develop the talent.