Looks like Biden has the support of the troops....

[LonghornMM]

Trump made his bed and lied In it. He could have taken COVID seriously when their was 10 cases. But made a joke out of it and here we are with this mask crap and lost businesses we all enjoyed.

So using your flawed logic, every death from January 20, 2021 forward is Biden's fault. I suppose he'll handle things perfectly. Since you portray to know things that we don't, why don't you explain to everyone your plan on how America should be run and covid should be handled. This should be good.

 

[Belldozer1]

For the record @KEVINBOGOSIAN is a sock puppet of another poster who has been banned many times for inciting problems, calling everyone who doesn't agree with him a racist etc. One of his sock puppets claimed he hated Trump because he grabbed him in his p^**y.

 

[outhereincali]

For the record @KEVINBOGOSIAN is a sock puppet of another poster who has been banned many times for inciting problems, calling everyone who doesn't agree with him a racist etc. One of his sock puppets claimed he hated Trump because he grabbed him in his p^**y.

Fortunately for you most of the posters on this board are conservatives. If it were somebody in the middle you and your loopy, unsubstantiated, conspiracy theories would have been gone a long time ago.

 

[RoboCocks21]

Now-- i do think covid is serious, and so does my boyfriend Belldozer.

I just had to point this out hahaha

 

[Belldozer1]

Fortunately for you most of the posters on this board are conservatives. If it were somebody in the middle you and your loopy, unsubstantiated, conspiracy theories would have been gone a long time ago.

And don't you find it amazing that Biden supposedly got 81 million votes but I can find only a handful of degenerates that actually voted for him. This board is a perfect example of that. And here's a great video of the guy you and the other 2 folks on this board voted for. We'll wait for you to call him out

 

[LonghornMM]

Fortunately for you most of the posters on this board are conservatives. If it were somebody in the middle you and your loopy, unsubstantiated, conspiracy theories would have been gone a long time ago.

Lot of commons sense guys on this board.

 

[Drtxhorn]

Fortunately for you most of the posters on this board are conservatives. If it were somebody in the middle you and your loopy, unsubstantiated, conspiracy theories would have been gone a long time ago.

It's not really about being conservative or liberal. It has more to do with a commitment to facts, reason, logic and being a rational independent thinker. Most of the posters on this board who are viewed as conservative wouldn't hesitate to call out anyone who is unable to argue their position. Doesn't matter if they're liberal or conservative. Liberals are driven mainly by the emotions of hate and fear which clouds their ability to think rationally and honestly. That's why they have to resort to suppressing speech. If they were committed to free speech, their arguments would easily be defeated. The left has been doing this for hundreds of years.

 

[cchorn777]

And as I've said before right wing violence is a far bigger threat to our internal security the FBI and DHS said it themselves. A study was taken and over a 10 year period 119 people died from right wing violence.

The fact of the matter is that if BLM had stormed the capital they'd have been shot on sight. The capital police would not have stopped to take selfies with the protesters. Say what you want but protesting against police brutality and the oppression that comes from it is one thing but protesting against votes legally cast is different. Combined with these right wing and racist organizations that have infiltrated our police and military these are the people who hate America. They want their America and only theirs.

And as I've said before right wing violence is a far bigger threat to our internal security the FBI and DHS said it themselves. A study was taken and over a 10 year period 119 people died from right wing violence.

The fact of the matter is that if BLM had stormed the capital they'd have been shot on sight. The capital police would not have stopped to take selfies with the protesters. Say what you want but protesting against police brutality and the oppression that comes from it is one thing but protesting against votes legally cast is different. Combined with these right wing and racist organizations that have infiltrated our police and military these are the people who hate America. They want their America and only theirs.

Did you see the riots, looting,burnings, assaults, shootings and the destruction all over country? Who in the heck you think did that? BLM and antifa. You always blame the conservatives and it’s the racist left, socialist, Marxist and fascist loonies that are a threat to this democracy. Nobody believes you except the other loonies.

 

[Son of Wasatch]

You remind me of the guy on monday morning that has all the answers for why the quarterback lost the game and all the things he'd have done differently were he quarterback on the team instead of holding up the water cooler and eating donuts at his current job.

Oh damn, did you just call him an Uncle Rico, why I think you did. Sounds about right.

 

[clob94]

I just had to point this out hahaha

Sarcasm and irony are often sweet bedfellows. One simply must hasten himself for that moment of perfect blend.

 

[lupar_horns]

The trumptard tears on this thread are simply delicious...love it

 

[clob94]

Fortunately for you most of the posters on this board are conservatives. If it were somebody in the middle you and your loopy, unsubstantiated, conspiracy theories would have been gone a long time ago.

Cali, I will sit and debate anyone all day on topics that are merit based. That's easy to do because merit based arguments can be proven or disproven with data, mathematics, logic etc etc. What I can't do, and what most discussions/debates are now being morphed into are not merit based discussions, they are moral based. And that's the problem with morally based debates- everyone has different sets of morals. And regardless of your lifelong position of morals, the "benchmark" for certain groups keeps shifting.
Politically, if this were the 1980s, I would align with "Reagan Democrats". The problem is that in the 1980s, the guys that were "slightly to the left of center" are now, by liberal standards, considered slightly to the right of Atilla the Hun in the eyes of progressives.

Now, is this because I've changed?
Nope.

It's because value systems have changed. I can be against abortion for me personally, but I can also believe in a woman's right to choose-- but if I express that abortion just isn't for me, personally, then I'm branded a misogynist-- even though I still believe in a woman's right to choose.
I can say all day long that I don't care who marries whom-- guy, girl, insert gender fluid pronoun- but if I don't at least consider dating another man, then I'm a homophobe. (This is true btw-- lots of academic articles on this topic)
Whether you realize it or not, I've read damn near every post you've made regarding football or any other topic. Some I agree with, and some I don't. When it comes to football, you usually have a well thought out argument and can back that up with logic and stats and some form of data. Yes, sometimes you make "gut" arguments- and just like everyone else, myself included, sometimes your gut is right, and sometimes it's wrong.
Nobody faults you for that. Nobody faults anybody for that. But when it comes to merit based arguments, we as a society have to take "gut" feelings out of it. We have to talk in terms of data. I know that may sound cold, I know sometimes that means having to make crappy emotional decisions to get results-- but that's life.

 

[clob94]

The trumptard tears on this thread are simply delicious...love it

When one resorts to name calling, one has already lost the moral high ground.

 

[outhereincali]

Did you see the riots, looting,burnings, assaults, shootings and the destruction all over country? Who in the heck you think did that? BLM and antifa. You always blame the conservatives and it’s the racist left, socialist, Marxist and fascist loonies that are a threat to this democracy. Nobody believes you except the other loonies.

Well the DT fanatics are fascist loonies. And because most people on here are conservative no one on here will condemn the proud boys some on here have expressed admiration for them. Matter of fact it was the proud boys were responsible for that police building burning in Minneapolis. And what does DT say about these people stand back and stand by on national tv, in a presidential debate no less. A guy most people on here voted for. And let's not forget about Q'Anon.

And most of the victims in these demonstrations have been liberal leaning. That isn't to say liberals are pure because they're not. The people in Oakland who sniper shot a cop, the anarchist in Seattle who shot a right wing Christian minister was wrong and I'm sure there were others. But then there are others like this GoFundMe bunch who raised as much as $250,000 for that punk kid in WI.

And no Antifa nor BLM was involved with what went down on 1/6/21 and you guys need to stop trying to convincing yourselves that. And let me ask you guys something how many of you benefited from that DT tax cut that benefited the top 3%?

And why does everyone ignore the over 400,000 who have died from covid19? Most people complain about wearing a mask but most people on here voted for a man who had a cavalier disregard for this virus. And there was Mitch McConnell a horrible human being who did nothing to help the people most affected by this virus. He banked on DT winning and the R's holding the Senate and then doing what they wanted to do. And MM, Ted Cruz, and the rest of that bunch did nothing to work across party lines. And now now he has the audacity to complain that JB isn't working across party lines.

So because were liberal democrats were socialists? Well I'm going to say something about that. Socialists like who

Cuba? No
Columbia? No
Venezuela? No
Nicaragua? No. And we don't support corrupt, oppressive, left wing governments any more than you say you do. But when people flee from corrupt, oppressive, right wing governments like say Bolivia well that's where the wall comes in handy.

DT has disgraced the office of the POTUS. Our image in the eyes of the world has been damaged especially among our European allies and it will take time to repair that. You can reply with insults all you want most of you aren't going to read it anyway.

But this is a sports board which is what were here to talk about. Wth we've hired a new coach who has brought in a new coaching staff with so many interesting story lines to talk about. Or a bb team who's risen out of mediocrity? Does anyone on here know how LJ Johnson's visit has gone? Do we still have a chance? Will baseball season start on time after fb the most important sport at TX is bb so hell yes I'm going to follow them. The title games are today.

 

[outhereincali]

Cali, I will sit and debate anyone all day on topics that are merit based. That's easy to do because merit based arguments can be proven or disproven with data, mathematics, logic etc etc. What I can't do, and what most discussions/debates are now being morphed into are not merit based discussions, they are moral based. And that's the problem with morally based debates- everyone has different sets of morals. And regardless of your lifelong position of morals, the "benchmark" for certain groups keeps shifting.
Politically, if this were the 1980s, I would align with "Reagan Democrats". The problem is that in the 1980s, the guys that were "slightly to the left of center" are now, by liberal standards, considered slightly to the right of Atilla the Hun in the eyes of progressives.

Now, is this because I've changed?
Nope.

It's because value systems have changed. I can be against abortion for me personally, but I can also believe in a woman's right to choose-- but if I express that abortion just isn't for me, personally, then I'm branded a misogynist-- even though I still believe in a woman's right to choose.
I can say all day long that I don't care who marries whom-- guy, girl, insert gender fluid pronoun- but if I don't at least consider dating another man, then I'm a homophobe. (This is true btw-- lots of academic articles on this topic)
Whether you realize it or not, I've read damn near every post you've made regarding football or any other topic. Some I agree with, and some I don't. When it comes to football, you usually have a well thought out argument and can back that up with logic and stats and some form of data. Yes, sometimes you make "gut" arguments- and just like everyone else, myself included, sometimes your gut is right, and sometimes it's wrong.
Nobody faults you for that. Nobody faults anybody for that. But when it comes to merit based arguments, we as a society have to take "gut" feelings out of it. We have to talk in terms of data. I know that may sound cold, I know sometimes that means having to make crappy emotional decisions to get results-- but that's life.

Well ok let's dance. Me personally I've always been conflicted about abortion. My wife is very much pro-life and I think that's why she voted for Trump. And yes I've said on here numerous times that my wife voted for DT. And believe it or not were still in love 😅

I have lots of data but it takes to long to post so yeah I basically I do a summary of what I've read. Now did I vote for Biden? Yes. Am I glad he won? Yes. But I don't feel good about it. I let myself get sucked it by social media during this election in my case it was youtube channels with political content it's my fault and its why I've posted that sometimes social media can be unhealthy and I'm the best example of that. I'm smart enough to think for myself.

But most conservatives and most people on this board have bought into the idea that Democrats are socialists. Joe Biden has said himself that he is a capitalist. What I want is justice Im angry about police brutality against people of color do you really need data for this clob94? I resent that the police will never have to answer for this. It doesn't matter that George Floyd, was a convicted felon, or that Jacob Blake was a suspect, they are still human beings conservatives have a hard time seeing this. The charges against that cop in WI who shot Blake has been dismissed. And the charges against the cops in Salt Lake City who shot a 13 year old boy with autism have been dismissed and btw hes a white kid. We need more men like Art Acevedo leading our police departments. I've studied this closely and I have some strong ideas for reform but they will never happen. I think police unions should be prohibited from contributing to DA candidates. Once they're elected they're already in bed with the police.

Clob a coup in a third world country should not be compared to what went down on 1/6/21. Its still a case of people who hate their country and are willing to kill other people for their evil beliefs.

Look these people were on the fringe but DT tapped into their psyche and they came out of the woodwork and they showed up in droves to vote. Now they have a place at the table in the RP they even have supporters in Washington.

Has our country been unified since the end of WW2? Doubtful but our country has been polarized like never before.

Look knowledgeable people have talked about how the DT tax cuts hurt most Americans. We lost a lot of jobs. As far as the economy supposedly recovering it didn't happen until the last half of 2020 to late to undo the damage that had already been done.

I have plenty of data out there clob but it takes a lot of time for me to post. I do understand the facts very well.

 

[outhereincali]

Well the DT fanatics are fascist loonies. And because most people on here are conservative no one on here will condemn the proud boys some on here have expressed admiration for them. Matter of fact it was the proud boys were responsible for that police building burning in Minneapolis. And what does DT say about these people stand back and stand by on national tv, in a presidential debate no less. A guy most people on here voted for. And let's not forget about Q'Anon.

And most of the victims in these demonstrations have been liberal leaning. That isn't to say liberals are pure because they're not. The people in Oakland who sniper shot a cop, the anarchist in Seattle who shot a right wing Christian minister was wrong and I'm sure there were others. But then there are others like this GoFundMe bunch who raised as much as $250,000 for that punk kid in WI.

And no Antifa nor BLM was involved with what went down on 1/6/21 and you guys need to stop trying to convincing yourselves that. And let me ask you guys something how many of you benefited from that DT tax cut that benefited the top 3%?

And why does everyone ignore the over 400,000 who have died from covid19? Most people complain about wearing a mask but most people on here voted for a man who had a cavalier disregard for this virus. And there was Mitch McConnell a horrible human being who did nothing to help the people most affected by this virus. He banked on DT winning and the R's holding the Senate and then doing what they wanted to do. And MM, Ted Cruz, and the rest of that bunch did nothing to work across party lines. And now now he has the audacity to complain that JB isn't working across party lines.

So because were liberal democrats were socialists? Well I'm going to say something about that. Socialists like who

Cuba? No
Columbia? No
Venezuela? No
Nicaragua? No. And we don't support corrupt, oppressive, left wing governments any more than you say you do. But when people flee from corrupt, oppressive, right wing governments like say Bolivia well that's where the wall comes in handy.

DT has disgraced the office of the POTUS. Our image in the eyes of the world has been damaged especially among our European allies and it will take time to repair that. You can reply with insults all you want most of you aren't going to read it anyway.

But this is a sports board which is what were here to talk about. Wth we've hired a new coach who has brought in a new coaching staff with so many interesting story lines to talk about. Or a bb team who's risen out of mediocrity? Does anyone on here know how LJ Johnson's visit has gone? Do we still have a chance? Will baseball season start on time after fb the most important sport at TX is bb so hell yes I'm going to follow them. The title games are today.

 

[diadevic]

And let me ask you guys something how many of you benefited from that DT tax cut that benefited the top 3%?

I quit reading after this. To Clob's point about data -- 44% of Americans did not pay ANY individual federal income tax in 2018. And that was an increase of 2% thanks to (or blame on) the Trump tax cuts.
https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxvox/tcja-increasing-share-households-paying-no-federal-income-tax

That leaves 56% of Americans that actually pay tax that received the cut. Trump DOUBLED the itemized deduction threshold, which benefited every single tax paying American EXCEPT the rich who pay property taxes, since he capped the property tax deduction at $10K. That cap did not hinder the lower end - it creamed the California/New York upper end property owners. You know, the rich people that have million dollar plus homes.

Now, if you want to argue that those who pay no income tax should have benefited from the tax cut --- that in fact is redistribution of wealth. Which is really more of a communist concept than socialist.

And to your final point (ok, I did read the whole thing) - Baylor is going to kick Bevo's ass in hoops this year. Hopefully we'll get to do it 4 times if you get that far!

 

[TexLou]

And don't you find it amazing that Biden supposedly got 81 million votes but I can find only a handful of degenerates that actually voted for him. This board is a perfect example of that. And here's a great video of the guy you and the other 2 folks on this board voted for. We'll wait for you to call him out

View embedded media

Correct, Bell, that pretty much says it all!!!!]

 

[TexLou]

thanks MM for the delete,,,what a douche!!!

 

[chenaultjr]

R. Scott Sicario 2.0 (@SicarioScott) Tweeted:
The View From Biden s Motorcade. (What Do You Notice) https://t.co/qHr7TK2Xya

View embedded media

One of the vehicles in the POTUS motorcade-- trail vehicle-- I don't see any salutes and a lot of backs turned. Perhaps this is the taking of the knee that you get when you are TDY'd to DC to possibly have to shoot your own citizens.

Might be they are guarding against possible trouble from the direction they are facing.

 

[LonghornMM]

outhere, I find it mind boggling that you criticize Trump, Cruz, McConnell and other Republicans, but not a mention from you about the likes of Harris, Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff, AOC, Talib, Omar and the classless dumb things that they do and say. Try being fair and objective. Can you say with a straight face that any of those people are good for America?

 

[clob94]

Might be they are guarding against possible trouble from the direction they are facing.

A locked down city? If you say so.

 

[BigBrotherAgs]

Still can’t explain election fraud. I’m waiting. How was the election stolen. Yawn..

If you watch CNN and MSNBC you wouldn’t. Left wings are fed 1 belief. You are their puppet and that is exactly what you want. Is CNN covering the tax hikes? Destruction of Seattle? Rising Covid numbers now that Trump is out? Shut down of oil and gas fields causing thousands of lost jobs, thousands coming across the border and they will make you pay for it, babies upon babies will be aborted at any time and YOU will call that healthcare. When I watched election night Trump was winning by a landslide. At around 10:00 the election stopped, votes stopped coming in. Even your beloved CNN said they couldn’t see a path. Then...Then I went to bed and woke up around 2 and all of a sudden Biden was ahead in those states with the same percentage of votes counted as when I went to bed. I’ll start there. If you can’t see beyond that and put 2 and 2 together along with more votes than registered voters then..well, enjoy these next 4 years. And by the way, tell me what you DO believe in Biden and Harris without using the word Trump.

 

[weevilcatch]

Trumps entire legacy is being undone as we speak. The wall is being taken down and the caravan of Honduran migrants are coming to shack up in Texas. You must be so sad. Waaaahh

During a pandemic? When hospitals are over run and shit?

You must hate grandma

 

[weevilcatch]

The trumptard tears on this thread are simply delicious...love it

This is incredibly insensitive. Why do liberals hate mentally challenged people? How do you show your face in public?

 

[clob94]

Well ok let's dance. Me personally I've always been conflicted about abortion. My wife is very much pro-life and I think that's why she voted for Trump. And yes I've said on here numerous times that my wife voted for DT. And believe it or not were still in love 😅

I have lots of data but it takes to long to post so yeah I basically I do a summary of what I've read. Now did I vote for Biden? Yes. Am I glad he won? Yes. But I don't feel good about it. I let myself get sucked it by social media during this election in my case it was youtube channels with political content it's my fault and its why I've posted that sometimes social media can be unhealthy and I'm the best example of that. I'm smart enough to think for myself.

But most conservatives and most people on this board have bought into the idea that Democrats are socialists. Joe Biden has said himself that he is a capitalist. What I want is justice Im angry about police brutality against people of color do you really need data for this clob94? I resent that the police will never have to answer for this. It doesn't matter that George Floyd, was a convicted felon, or that Jacob Blake was a suspect, they are still human beings conservatives have a hard time seeing this. The charges against that cop in WI who shot Blake has been dismissed. And the charges against the cops in Salt Lake City who shot a 13 year old boy with autism have been dismissed and btw hes a white kid. We need more men like Art Acevedo leading our police departments. I've studied this closely and I have some strong ideas for reform but they will never happen. I think police unions should be prohibited from contributing to DA candidates. Once they're elected they're already in bed with the police.

Clob a coup in a third world country should not be compared to what went down on 1/6/21. Its still a case of people who hate their country and are willing to kill other people for their evil beliefs.

Look these people were on the fringe but DT tapped into their psyche and they came out of the woodwork and they showed up in droves to vote. Now they have a place at the table in the RP they even have supporters in Washington.

Has our country been unified since the end of WW2? Doubtful but our country has been polarized like never before.

Look knowledgeable people have talked about how the DT tax cuts hurt most Americans. We lost a lot of jobs. As far as the economy supposedly recovering it didn't happen until the last half of 2020 to late to undo the damage that had already been done.

I have plenty of data out there clob but it takes a lot of time for me to post. I do understand the facts very well.

I et it. Cops can be idiots like any other profession can. But let me ask you this--

Is the president of the united States in charge of hiring municipal police?

Obviously you know he's not. The person in charge of hiring these police is the police chief. The police chief is hired by the mayor. The mayor is elected by------ the people.

So if you live in a city with a democratic mayor (most of the police problems come from large cities run by Democrat mayors), that Democrat mayor is in charge of hiring that police chief who is in charge of hiring those police that abuse people.

But you want a president to some how waive a magic wand and hold all these police accountable? I guess I fail to see how this is the fault of the president-- when in fact it was the citizens that elected the mayor who then appointed the chief who then hired these cops.

Make sense? Your anger is misplaced my man.

 

[outhereincali]

outhere, I find it mind boggling that you criticize Trump, Cruz, McConnell and other Republicans, but not a mention from you about the likes of Harris, Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff, AOC, Talib, Omar and the classless dumb things that they do and say. Try being fair and objective. Can you say with a straight face that any of those people are good for America?

I am fair and objective. On this thread I have condemned the left wing based killings. I have also condemned some left wing youtube channels. And I have absolutely no use for Louis Farrakhan and his Nation of Islam band of haters.

Now what does AOC and the rest of her group call themselves? I can't remember but while I do agree with some of their analysis I don't believe in their solutions. As far as Pelosi she's at the end of her career but don't you realize that working across the aisles longer exists and hasn't for a long time. Back when there were good men like Daniel Inoyue in the Senate they did but not anymore. And I like Kamala Harris she's her own person and she won't be bullied like Trump did to Pence. Now good will they do now that a D is POTUS? Well like everyone else I'm going to wait and see.

And this talk of CA being run by left wing kooks is borderline ignorant. I live in the 4th Confessions Congressional district which has always been red and where the incumbent won easily. Most of the liberal leaning props were defeated in Nov.

 

[outhereincali]

I et it. Cops can be idiots like any other profession can. But let me ask you this--

Is the president of the united States in charge of hiring municipal police?

Obviously you know he's not. The person in charge of hiring these police is the police chief. The police chief is hired by the mayor. The mayor is elected by------ the people.

So if you live in a city with a democratic mayor (most of the police problems come from large cities run by Democrat mayors), that Democrat mayor is in charge of hiring that police chief who is in charge of hiring those police that abuse people.

But you want a president to some how waive a magic wand and hold all these police accountable? I guess I fail to see how this is the fault of the president-- when in fact it was the citizens that elected the mayor who then appointed the chief who then hired these cops.

Make sense? Your anger is misplaced my man.

The mayor isn't responsible for charges being brought against cops the DA is and most of the time the charges are dismissed and there's not much the mayor can do about it.

 

[LonghornMM]

I am fair and objective. On this thread I have condemned the left wing based killings. I have also condemned some left wing youtube channels. And I have absolutely no use for Louis Farrakhan and his Nation of Islam band of haters.

Now what does AOC and the rest of her group call themselves? I can't remember but while I do agree with some of their analysis I don't believe in their solutions. As far as Pelosi she's at the end of her career but don't you realize that working across the aisles longer exists and hasn't for a long time. Back when there were good men like Daniel Inoyue in the Senate they did but not anymore. And I like Kamala Harris she's her own person and she won't be bullied like Trump did to Pence. Now good will they do now that a D is POTUS? Well like everyone else I'm going to wait and see.

And this talk of CA being run by left wing kooks is borderline ignorant. I live in the 4th Confessions Congressional district which has always been red and where the incumbent won easily. Most of the liberal leaning props were defeated in Nov.

Maybe I should have framed my questions like this. What have Biden, Harris, Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff, AOC, Talib, Omar, Newsome, etc. accomplished in their careers, and why is America a better place because of what they've done?

 

[outhereincali]

Maybe I should have framed my questions like this. What have Biden, Harris, Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff, AOC, Talib, Omar, Newsome, etc. accomplished in their careers, and why is America a better place because of what they've done?

Well were going to find out.