Why is nobody talking about this? That California is about to pass a law to pay college athletes? Jan 2023 is when it's going to happen.
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State Laws don't matter in this case. Players would lose their eligibility and wouldn't be able to play.
it'll go through. the entire ncaa will adopt it if they don't want to be extinct. it's a likeness thing-- the schools won't actually pay the schools, but if they can profit from their likeness they will be allowed. this will not effect football as much as basketball. i'm sure there will be recruiting enticements, but that already happens; now it will just be above board. here's the thing though-- once this goes into effect, the transfer portal becomes null and void for those that take from this thing. and remember, as it is now, if you're a bench-warmer, oh well. if this goes through, the kid becomes an employee, and employees can be fired.
Best to stay out of this. Let the ncaa suspend the players and then the players can sue the ncaa. Paying players means the university of texas wins because we have the most $$ but with 10-12 competitors left, no one will care.
it's not paying players. it's the ability to profit off their likenesses. if they want to sign autographs at a car dealership for a couple hundred, they can if the dealership is willing to pay them. but this is only going to register for a handful of elite basketball players. i'm sure there will be an attempt to bring the video game back, as well. backup o-linemen and starting corners aren't getting this-- it will be strictly quarterbacks beyond signing day
This is corporate consolidation in its purest form. It will lead to the extinction of 75% of CFB programs. If Sam Elingher can do a commercial for Exxon green initiatives or Freeport Mcmoran who are heavily tied to UT Austin, then we win. UT Austin Alums have some deeeeep pockets..... Red? Texas will win when the pocketbooks open and we won't have many competitors. The reaction will be similar to LHN. Our rivals will take their toys and go home. The End.
California, please secede, and take all the idiots that fled your third world state with you, before they run our state in the ground as well.
NCAA and Colleges paying players will not work. Allowing players to make money on their likeness I don't have a problem with if it has some regulation to it. Just letting it be the wild, wild west is a terrible idea and like clob said, labor lawyers will go bonkers.
I guess I just don't see how it is going to be that bad, unless it is unregulated. If Sam gets paid fair compensation comparatively to other similar people that make those commercials, what is the problem?
This will be the rub, company "x" owned by Texas Alum ~ Mr. Billionaire, contracts with the 2021 recruiting class for $100,000 per player to do adverts for him for 2022. Well, Texas has a few Mr. Billionaires and CEO's that run large companies and could make our recruiting classes quite wealthy just by signing. What would be the incentive to sign with aggy or anyone else if we pay more? Those schools won't be able to match and will by default quit.
Oh sorry, it must have gotten lost in the 50 other random thoughts you post every day.
Take a break Metcalf! You can't always be a ahole all your life! Have a nice day!
Well I feared this day would come and they’d ruin CFB as we know it. At least I still have my women’s college Curling and cornhole on ESPN.
Not if you cap it. Not if regulate the work and pay. It doesn’t have to be wild wild west
Labor laws.
Full stop. Where are our resident legal eagles at to help spell it out for you.
Yeah, they’re going to have to because I don’t see how it’s breaking any laws if Sam gets paid for being on a billboard
https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandto...ege-football-player-is-not-ncaa-employee.aspx
The ninth Circuit Court rules that athletes are not "employees" of the University they play for.
So how can you "pay" someone that is not an employee. (According to the federal courts) California wants the University to be in charge of money moving from a sponsor company through them and to the athletes.
Now if I don't work for you, how the hell can you pay me? And if you DO pay me, according to Title IX, you have to pay every other athlete the same or you get sued.
Is it starting to make sense now?
The school wouldn’t be paying the athlete in the scenario I’m talking about.
Trying to figure out if you’re being a condescending **** or not. I’m leaning toward not, lol
Well, I’ve just never been able to get into soccer but I do find Curling mesmerizing...go figure?
Simple, send each player a 1099 and make them supply their own equipment, insurance, housing, food etc.
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The law let's players make money off endorsements but they can't sign with under armour if they go to a Nike school. So it's going to basically legitimatize what is already happening in basketball. But when the NBA changes the CBA it won't really matter because the kids are going pro out of high school. The funny thing is the woman who wrote the bill thinks it will help female athletes. I can't see many profiting of their name unless they are model hot.
Not being condescending at all.
Think about this-- the federal courts have said that athletes "are not" employees of the school.
The proposed bill says the schools will "police" the likeness rights and payments from the company, to the athlete.
Which means the companies will have to write checks TO the school, who will in turn write checks TO the athlete.
Now, if you're writing me a check for services rendered, by definition, you are MY employer. And if you are paying me, I am your employee and labor laws come into effect.
Now here's the kicker-- Title 9 law says that if you spend or give a certain amount of money to one athlete, you must do the same for EVERY athlete. It's equal treatment under the federal law.
So if ABC car dealership in Austin gives Sam 10,000 bucks to use his likeness on their car lot, they are going to have to GIVE that money, not to Sam, but to the University who turns around a writes a check to Sam. Now since the University cut that check to Sam, under federal title 9 law, they must provide the same compensation to every other athlete. Male or female.
And if they don't, labor laws come into play because of title 9 laws. It sets off a domino effect.
Now I may not be reading the California ruling properly, but I know title 9 laws from top to bottom-- and I can't see any scenario where title 9 laws are not violated.
I was happy with the old SWC and the cheating compared to this crap, just face it FB over as we knew it, next will come the entourages for the players then the agents, I fee clob said the right thing, send them a bill for Room and Board and Tuition and books....etc
That is so messed up. Title IX sucks. Schools have sports that no one gives a damn about and are nothing but a liability on an athletic budget due to Title IX.
Does "police" mean the University receives the money or simply reviews the amounts to make sure it is not excessive and is fair? I could see a scenario where athletes have to submit all records of their pay to the University so the University can "audit" the players financials and report it to the NCAA. The tricky part will be how they determine what each players "likeness" is worth.
In my opinion has to happen for this to work is that there has to be a "clearing house" if you will that is not tied to the NCAA or to the universities that will funnel the money to the athletes. I know that a lot of people are talking about how this won't have any affect on sports other than football and basketball, but one of the things that this law will allow is for current athletes to do lessons and get paid for them. Take for example, Miranda Elish, the ace on the Texas softball team. Under current rules, while she is still a student athlete she cannot give pitching lessons to JH/HS girls and get paid for it. This law would allow this type of thing to happen.
There is a lot of logistics to work out but I do believe this is going to happen across the board and that either the NCAA will figure out a way to make it work or they will fold and something else will take its place. Also, while this will definitely have some negative side effects (as all rule changes do) but I do believe that this rule will bring a lot of the shady underhanded stuff to light which I believe ultimately helps. Maybe I am being naive.
There is a lot of logistics to work out but I do believe this is going to happen across the board and that either the NCAA will figure out a way to make it work or they will fold and something else will take its place. Also, while this will definitely have some negative side effects (as all rule changes do) but I do believe that this rule will bring a lot of the shady underhanded stuff to light which I believe ultimately helps. Maybe I am being naive.
Title IX. Equal funding for athletes. What a star QB makes compared to a girls soccer player will be challenged in court under Title IX.
Title IX is complete BS. That would be like the janitor at a university having the same privileges and compensation as the president of a university using Title IX logic. They don't bring the same value to a school, and their recognition, benefits, compensation, etc., should reflect that. Same thing with a starting QB vs. a reserve women's lacrosse player.
