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Another question I have always had is where did they get all those workers from. Were they slaves? Do you let slaves build a Death Star or run the engineering room of a star destroyer? I mean whats in it for them was the pay good? To do something evil like take over the galaxy and blow up planets dont you have to have a certain ideology to back up your beliefs that you were willing to die for? Ok Emporer I get it Vader had anger issues and even the guy who tried to kill dracula probably was in it for the power. But what about the tech guys what was their plan. The other thing that bugs me is why in the hell did the Empire have to build a second death star? They seem to have had unlimited resources wouldnt that time and energy have been put to better use?
The Empire did use slave labor to build the death star, at least in part. They enslaved the Wookiee's on Kashyyyk and forced them to work. The Emperor had a strong distrust and disgust with "non-humans". That's why only 1 "non-human" ever rose to the rank of "Grand Admiral".
I think the real question becomes who was the most powerful, non-jedi?
Han Solo?
Chewbacca or another wookie?
Bobba Fet?
Lando Calrisian?
Admiral Ackbar?
Han Solo?
Chewbacca or another wookie?
Bobba Fet?
Lando Calrisian?
Admiral Ackbar?
They'd need skilled laborers for much of that so they'd use what many here use. Contractors. Speaking of the Death Star, how about that little denial and deception campaign? "We'll leak the plans and location of the new Death Star to lure the rebels into a trap. They won't know it's operational, so we'll wipe them out."
But nobody thought to actually, you know, alter or scrub the blueprints so the rebels wouldn't find a way to destroy it. You know, like the LAST time they blew up a death star? Would love to see that strategy session included in the movie.
Emporer: So that's my plan, they'll think it's not operational, so they'll all die.
Lackey: Uhhh, you're giving them the plans though right? What if they find a weakness, like last time?
Emporer: Not a problem, they'll be destroyed by our operational battle station.
Lackey: But while we're engaging their ships, what if they blow up the death star? It's only half finished, lots of ways in...maybe we could alter the schematics a little bit?
Emporer: What part of this are you not getting? They'll attack, we'll blow them up. I have foreseen it.
Lackey: Well you didn't foresee them blowing up the last...[dies]
Emporer: Any more questions?
This post was edited on 6/20 1:29 PM by PBR_StreetGang
But nobody thought to actually, you know, alter or scrub the blueprints so the rebels wouldn't find a way to destroy it. You know, like the LAST time they blew up a death star? Would love to see that strategy session included in the movie.
Emporer: So that's my plan, they'll think it's not operational, so they'll all die.
Lackey: Uhhh, you're giving them the plans though right? What if they find a weakness, like last time?
Emporer: Not a problem, they'll be destroyed by our operational battle station.
Lackey: But while we're engaging their ships, what if they blow up the death star? It's only half finished, lots of ways in...maybe we could alter the schematics a little bit?
Emporer: What part of this are you not getting? They'll attack, we'll blow them up. I have foreseen it.
Lackey: Well you didn't foresee them blowing up the last...[dies]
Emporer: Any more questions?
This post was edited on 6/20 1:29 PM by PBR_StreetGang
Depends on what you mean by most powerful. What is clear, though, is that Han Solo should have been put in charge of shit from the beginning. Here's a man who is pragmatic, resourceful and isn't afraid to get his hands dirty to do what needs to be done.
He knew there was no diplomacy to be had with Greedo, so he flat took his ass out after creating an opening. He didn't wait around for due process.
A Jedi would have frozen to death on Hoth because he wouldn't know what to do after escaping the snow creature. Solo guts his mount and stuffs his friend in to keep him warm.
A typical Rebel lackey would have no idea how to defeat the second Death Star. Solo says, "F*ck it. We're going straight into the lion's den to shut this shit down."
Oh, and did I mention that he's the guy who ends up nailing Leia? Yeah, Solo was the Chuck Norris of a galaxy far, far away.
Solo dated well above his midi count. Now do they have tradeschools and sheet? U know fashion design school, cosmetology school,architecture? Also if they had colleges, was there an Aggy college?
For those that are interested and have the Kindle Android App, the Lost Tribe of the Sith books are often free downloads...
The 1993 Dallas Cowboys were way better than the 1976 Pittsburgh Steelers......oh wait, wrong thread, nevermind.
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The real problem with Anakin was his damn sense of entitlement. I mean you're told you're the chosen one your entire life and you're basically making the cover of the Jedi SI and you tend to lean on that. Also he was as previously stated a huge vagina who never lived up to expectations.
Obi Wan was kind of the Kenny Rogers of it all. Not impressive stuff but he did get the job done when they needed him to. He stablizied the Jedi rotation and when they needed a win on some routine mission he'd go labor through and get it done.
Qui Gon was obviously far underrated and had he lived to Train Anakin just think how awesome he would have been. Kinda like the guy who discovered Tyson.
Mace Windu was the OG of the galaxy. You know what it says on his wallet and he was not to be trifled with. He could pull his cruiser around and park it on the curb like a straight G and then stare down anyone who wanted to say something about it. He may not have had all the wisdom for leadership but he was at the time the elite of the elite soldiers on the counsel.
Obi Wan was kind of the Kenny Rogers of it all. Not impressive stuff but he did get the job done when they needed him to. He stablizied the Jedi rotation and when they needed a win on some routine mission he'd go labor through and get it done.
Qui Gon was obviously far underrated and had he lived to Train Anakin just think how awesome he would have been. Kinda like the guy who discovered Tyson.
Mace Windu was the OG of the galaxy. You know what it says on his wallet and he was not to be trifled with. He could pull his cruiser around and park it on the curb like a straight G and then stare down anyone who wanted to say something about it. He may not have had all the wisdom for leadership but he was at the time the elite of the elite soldiers on the counsel.
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Originally posted by BigTFactor:
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Hard to argue. Like the Windu analogy. I think he's the only Jedi you would classify as "likes to fight guy." Probably would've been an Ohio St fan.
I think every other Jedi would avoid conflict, but I doubt Windu would.
Windu reminds me of the great frontline worker who gets promoted to management and is suddenly not able to do the things he is best at. You know this happened in the Council a time or two:
Yoda: "Great disturbances on Naboo, there are. A committee we should form."
Windu: "Committee my ass. Let's just go wreck that shit."
Yoda: "You must control your anger, Master Windu. To the dark side it will lead."
Windu: "Look, Yoda. The motherf*cking Sith Lord is scheming against us right now, and we're going to sit back and talk about shit?"
Yoda: "A committee we must form."
Windu: "Whatever, asshole."
Read the Mace lines in S. Jackson's voice.
One thing though. Let's just be real. The last line would have been "Whateva n****"
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At present its more like Anakin = LeBron. More naturally gifted than all of his peers but gets taken down by the wiley veteran.
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I think the moral of that story is dont be friends with Anakin Skywalker. Mom - dead, Qui Gon - dead, Obiwan - dead, Padme - dead, Windu - dead, Emperor - dead. Dude even chopped his son's hand off.
This is the general idea. But did Anakin really have all that potential? Maybe if he started his training earlier. But they said he was too old. So clearly, his ceiling was lower than it could have been.
Is it based on midi count? At what point do you start getting diminishing returns from your midi level. There's a reason the scale only goes up to 20,000. At some point it stops mattering. Midi count isn't everything. I think that over a certain point, you can be a Jedi, but you still have to work hard on your Jedi skills. Things like having a 100-foot vertical and moving shit around with your mind aren't just there. You have to train, and Anakin didn't work as hard as he should have. He was too sensitive, and didn't take criticism well from his superiors, and that's why he was never that great.
And was his midi count really that high? Those rapid midi tests are just a screening. You have to follow up with studies that have a higher specificity. What if the specimen was hemolyzed?
By the way, the whole midi thing is gay. Another massive failure by George Lucas, who is a turd.
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Even with the late start to Jedi training Anakin had a higher ceiling than any other Jedi. He just got overconfident which lead to his epic fail battle with Obiwan. If he had stayed with the Jedi or not gotten jacked so bad Obiwan he would have been the best ever. Once the machines were added all of his athleticism was gone. He never allowed himself to reach his full potential.
As for the Midi count. It is a major factor. Obiwan even said that no jedi, not even Yoda, had a midi count that high. Wouldnt have said it if it wasnt relevant to Anakin's potential to be a BAMF. And the sample was reliable. The hand held module was only a transmition device to the large CPU on Padme's Nubian cruiser.
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