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Running the same 5 plays here that we run against OU, not hard to pickup if ya watched the film on the other side, maybe Gilbert will get on the bus with Charlie and Bedford




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Running the same 5 plays here that we run against OU, not hard to pickup if ya watched the film on the other side, maybe Gilbert will get on the bus with Charlie and Bedford




Hook'em
It's the lack of execution. Imo, we need to hang on to Gilbert as long as we can. Remember, we have a true fish leading the offense and is doing a damn fine job at it. Give him another year or 2 in the weight room and he'll have more zip. This offense is more than enough to win each and every game if our D figures out how to tackle and cover receivers.
 
It's the lack of execution. Imo, we need to hang on to Gilbert as long as we can. Remember, we have a true fish leading the offense and is doing a damn fine job at it. Give him another year or 2 in the weight room and he'll have more zip. This offense is more than enough to win each and every game if our D figures out how to tackle and cover receivers.
I do think Texas' offense is predictable. Throw sideways or throw deep.....run between tackles or QB keeps and takes off (rare).

Some slants worked well last night. I also think there needs to be a short route when trying to go deep....if QB is under pressure he has no one to go to and has to eat it (usually) or take off and try to make something out of it.

Use the middle of the field a LOT more would be nice.
 
It's possibly predictable because a True Freshman is back there throwing. I'll give Gilbert and Shane time before bashing the offense and saying we need to get rid of Gilbert. It can't be that predictable if we're avg 40 points a game. Exception was last night.
 
I do think Texas' offense is predictable. Throw sideways or throw deep.....run between tackles or QB keeps and takes off (rare).

Some slants worked well last night. I also think there needs to be a short route when trying to go deep....if QB is under pressure he has no one to go to and has to eat it (usually) or take off and try to make something out of it.

Use the middle of the field a LOT more would be nice.
I agree 100%. Our offense is very predictable. The middle of the field is ignored like a red headed stepchild & on deep routes do not seem to have any abort options.
Now let's look at this in another way. Nobody has been able to shutdown our predictable offense except our own offense with dropped balls, bad penalties, & poor execution. We didn't change much of anything we're doing in the 2nd half against OU or Iowa except better execution. Maybe the middle is an achilles heel during practice and Gilbert is minimizing our exposure until Shane is better at utilizing. Let's face it, if our defense is shutting down the middle at practice then we have no business trying against other teams.
I don't know man, there's plenty of things I'd like to see us do to improve on offense but even as vanilla and predictable as we are, we're scoring more than enough pts to win every game. Now, let's look at our D. They did a GREAT job last night. There's still poor tackling & questionable coverage improvement needed but they did an outstanding job considering how we were trending. We've got a brutal stretch coming up and need to improve by leaps and bounds.
 
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Bama 's QB is a true freshman from Texas also. He's not 6'0" 190, he's 6'2" 209 and has a gun arm.
 
I was not bashing the Texas offense. I actually like the new offense. I was just pointing out some things I have seen and would like to change. I am not a perfect judge of offense, defense, or special teams....just giving an opinion based on what I have seen.

Compared to the last two years this offense is night and day better.
 
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If Swoopes carries it every single time it is not that hard to stop. A wrinkle or 3 might make it useful again.

Bama 's QB is a true freshman from Texas also. He's not 6'0" 190, he's 6'2" 209 and has a gun arm.

That gun you are so in love with apparently has accuracy issues. For that matter, we have a QB from texas that is 6'5" and weighs 252...and he has a gun plus for an arm.Sadly, that gun has no accuracy either so our guy is second string.
 
We have a freshman QB, and a first year system. There are going to be points of struggling. The bright spot is even in struggles they are still managing 30-35 points a game.

Anyone watching Alabama? Theee freshman QB has struggled at times to. Difference is he has a defense that covers some of those mistakes up
 
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That gun you are so in love with apparently has accuracy issues. For that matter, we have a QB from texas that is 6'5" and weighs 252...and he has a gun plus for an arm.Sadly, that gun has no accuracy either so our guy is second string.
Swoopes was a loser and should have been a TE from jump. QBs have to be leaders and #18 never showed that in HS, he played 2A ball, never passed and never made playoffs. Hurts is more accurate as a true freshman than Bruechele is and he can run. He has beat USC, Ole Miss, UT and Arkansas. Sop showing your ignorance, because he has better numbers/stats than Shane.
 
We have a freshman QB, and a first year system. There are going to be points of struggling. The bright spot is even in struggles they are still managing 30-35 points a game.

Anyone watching Alabama? Theee freshman QB has struggled at times to. Difference is he has a defense that covers some of those mistakes up
You guys brag on Shane, but his stats are not as good at Jalen, but you never say Shane is struggling with accuracy. Hurts had to beat out multiple players for his job, but Shane was basically given the job because there were no legit QBs on the roster at UT.
 
Swoopes was a loser and should have been a TE from jump. QBs have to be leaders and #18 never showed that in HS, he played 2A ball, never passed and never made playoffs. Hurts is more accurate as a true freshman than Bruechele is and he can run. He has beat USC, Ole Miss, UT and Arkansas. Sop showing your ignorance, because he has better numbers/stats than Shane.
To be fair Alabamas defense has 10 touchdowns this season. If Shane had that sort of defense working the Horns would be right there with Bama. On the flip side if hurts had our defense he would have a couple L's to
 
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You guys brag on Shane, but his stats are not as good at Jalen, but you never say Shane is struggling with accuracy. Hurts had to beat out multiple players for his job, but Shane was basically given the job because there were no legit QBs on the roster at UT.
Shane has had a ton of drops. He's not been super accurate but he hasn't got much help from his WR's either.
 
Swoopes was a loser and should have been a TE from jump. QBs have to be leaders and #18 never showed that in HS, he played 2A ball, never passed and never made playoffs. Hurts is more accurate as a true freshman than Bruechele is and he can run. He has beat USC, Ole Miss, UT and Arkansas. Sop showing your ignorance, because he has better numbers/stats than Shane.

Show my ignorance???....How did your authoritarian ass happen to come up with the idea Hurts is more accurate than Buschele?...You must have pulled it out of your all knowing behind because it does not jive with the facts.

Hurts QB rating...142.2 Buschele QB rating...146.1

Hurts completion percentage...63.5 Buschele completion %...63.7

Yards per attempt....both at 7.8

Passing yards....Hurts...1385 Buschele...1500

Frankly....they are pretty damned even

I suggest if you want to try just throwing up crap ideas not supported by facts you go back to aggy yell...they will believe anything anti Texas
 
You guys brag on Shane, but his stats are not as good at Jalen, but you never say Shane is struggling with accuracy. Hurts had to beat out multiple players for his job, but Shane was basically given the job because there were no legit QBs on the roster at UT.

You sir, are ignorant. Please refrain from posting like this anymore. Thank you for your cooperation.

SB WON the job bc he knew he offense better having had run it for 4 years in highscool... but dont let facts stop you..... now kick rocks and eat a fat D on the "train" back you wher you came from.
 
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I am not ragging on Hurts....he is amazing as a true freshman....but dont even in your own bed at night DREAM that he has better numbers than Shane. The ONLY possible place he shows better is that Shane has 5 INT's and Hurts only has 3.....then again, he has 15 fewer attempts than Shane......now about that pesky part where Shane has 13 TD's to Hurts 9....

Perhaps comparative analysis is not your strong suit.
 
Show my ignorance???....How did your authoritarian ass happen to come up with the idea Hurts is more accurate than Buschele?...You must have pulled it out of your all knowing behind because it does not jive with the facts.

Hurts QB rating...142.2 Buschele QB rating...146.1

Hurts completion percentage...63.5 Buschele completion %...63.7

Yards per attempt....both at 7.8

Passing yards....Hurts...1385 Buschele...1500

Frankly....they are pretty damned even

I suggest if you want to try just throwing up crap ideas not supported by facts you go back to aggy yell...they will believe anything anti Texas

the troll is sent back under the bridge...
 
I was not bashing the Texas offense. I actually like the new offense. I was just pointing out some things I have seen and would like to change. I am not a perfect judge of offense, defense, or special teams....just giving an opinion based on what I have seen.

Compared to the last two years this offense is night and day better.
I know you weren't bashing the offense & I apologize if my reply came off as indicating you were. I just wanted to say that I think we are doing very well with the ball. Albeit with plenty of hiccups.
 
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Shane has is a more accurate passer than Hurts, but I would much rather have Hurts because of his running ability. He doesn't have to be extremely accurate on deep passes when he's killing defenses with his running. His poise and athleticism saved us in the Ole Miss game when the defense was getting shredded.

The defenses he's played against are also better than any defense Texas has seen. Not that Arky, Tennessee, and Ole Miss are world beaters on defense, but they are better than Notre Dame, Cal, and Iowa State.
 
Show my ignorance???....How did your authoritarian ass happen to come up with the idea Hurts is more accurate than Buschele?...You must have pulled it out of your all knowing behind because it does not jive with the facts.

Hurts QB rating...142.2 Buschele QB rating...146.1

Hurts completion percentage...63.5 Buschele completion %...63.7

Yards per attempt....both at 7.8

Passing yards....Hurts...1385 Buschele...1500

Frankly....they are pretty damned even

I suggest if you want to try just throwing up crap ideas not supported by facts you go back to aggy yell...they will believe anything anti Texas


Well I was going to advise folks not to feed the noob troll but I see that Oldhorn2 has already cleaned up after eating his lunch.....
 
Shane has is a more accurate passer than Hurts, but I would much rather have Hurts because of his running ability. He doesn't have to be extremely accurate on deep passes when he's killing defenses with his running. His poise and athleticism saved us in the Ole Miss game when the defense was getting shredded.

The defenses he's played against are also better than any defense Texas has seen. Not that Arky, Tennessee, and Ole Miss are world beaters on defense, but they are better than Notre Dame, Cal, and Iowa State.

Hurts is doing well, but it is easier to do well on a team like Bama. It's like they are on autopilot and any one can sit in the pilots seat and look good. They have great players and great coaches. What would Hurts look like at Texas and what would Buechele look like at Bama?
 
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Hurts is doing well, but it is easier to do well on a team like Bama. It's like they are on autopilot and any one can sit in the pilots seat and look good. They have great players and great coaches. What would Hurts look like at Texas and what would Buechele look like at Bama?

Jake Coker only looked solid in two games last year. He played well against Michigan State, and he put up good numbers against Clemson because they forgot to cover O.J. Howard twice. Hurts has a similar team behind him than Coker did. Hurts is way more effective than Coker was last year. Regardless of talent, you can't just put anyone back there and think they'll succeed. We won a national title last year despite Coker. If we get one this year, Hurts is going to have to lead the way on offense.

If Shane were our quarterback, I believe we would have one loss. We would have lost the Ole Miss game. The defense really struggled in that game, and Hurts's athleticism really hurt Ole Miss in the 2nd half after their defense wore down. If Hurts played at UT, you probably have the same record. Your offense isn't the problem, it's your defense and special teams. Jalen and Shane don't play on those two sides of the ball.
 
So Coker isn't good but they still won a national championship. Sounds like a pretty easy gig. Hurts is good I'm not trying to take anything away from him. Before his college career is over I bet he will be a heisman candidate.
 
The defenses he's played against are also better than any defense Texas has seen. Not that Arky, Tennessee, and Ole Miss are world beaters on defense, but they are better than Notre Dame, Cal, and Iowa State.
I would only rebut that the big and consistently top tier offensive line neutralizes these sec defenses. bama OL is >>> Texas OL.
 
Not really sure how this thread turned into a Shane vs. Jalen thread?

As freshmen both are doing very well, but I think it's easier to do well when you have all the talent Bama has. Shane was for the most part handed the job, but he is also the most accurate passer I've seen since Colt. He still has a lot of room to grow as well.

As of right now, I wouldn't take anyone over Shane, he is going to be special on the level of Colt McCoy.
 
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Not really sure how this thread turned into a Shane vs. Jalen thread?

As freshmen both are doing very well, but I think it's easier to do well when you have all the talent Bama has. Shane was for the most part handed the job, but he is also the most accurate passer I've seen since Colt. He still has a lot of room to grow as well.

As of right now, I wouldn't take anyone over Shane, he is going to be special on the level of Colt McCoy.
Yessir, I have a good feeling about Shane at the 40 as well. Whomever the qb coach is or will be absolutely has to teach him to slide. The kid has all the heart & moxy in the world but nobody wants him marching down David Ash's path. Grab some yards if they are available but please stop trying to run through LBs!
 
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