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Sam missed practice Sunday

I think it's great that our OC is using our badass FR QB as a battering ram. Solid game plan.

The problem is how Sam runs. He always tries to get the extra yardage. He needs to go down when someone is coming up to hit him, run out of bounds earlier and not make them throw him out of bounds. Sam needs to start protecting himself better. He's our most effective runner so they will keep calling on him to run.
 
A couple of years ago, Briles got crucified on this board for playing Bryce Petty with a broken bone in his back - Briles was accused of sacrificing anyone and anything to win a game.

The last two weeks, I've seen (a) Sam take a terrific beating, (b) Sam lay motionless at the Cotton Bowl for several minutes, and (c) Sam make two horrific bonehead plays (the 4th down throw away vs. OU, and the int. in the end zone vs. OSU). Now he is being inspected for a concussion. Either he should never have been back out there (at least against OU), or he doesn't have the football IQ to lead a D-I championship team. None of us will ever know for sure, but I'm leaning towards the former.

I love his fire, but he will never last 4 years (and probably not 4 more games) running him every other play and without ever sliding..
 
A couple of years ago, Briles got crucified on this board for playing Bryce Petty with a broken bone in his back - Briles was accused of sacrificing anyone and anything to win a game.

The last two weeks, I've seen (a) Sam take a terrific beating, (b) Sam lay motionless at the Cotton Bowl for several minutes, and (c) Sam make two horrific bonehead plays (the 4th down throw away vs. OU, and the int. in the end zone vs. OSU). Now he is being inspected for a concussion. Either he should never have been back out there (at least against OU), or he doesn't have the football IQ to lead a D-I championship team. None of us will ever know for sure, but I'm leaning towards the former.

I love his fire, but he will never last 4 years (and probably not 4 more games) running him every other play and without ever sliding..


Did Sam go through concussion protocol? Yep! He passed it? Yep.

Do red shirt freshmen make mistakes? Yep! Happens more than not.

He's being inspected after the OSU game yes but he was good to go before actually had a whole week to prepare and be analyzed.

You wanting to throw this back in our face because some one on this board "crucified" one of the biggest POS in college football to coach is just reaching. Briles is a POS just accept it man.
 
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Really? Briles is a POS we know that let's not compare the two instances either. Sam is a freshmen QB he's going to make mistakes and acting as if UT doesn't go through concussion protocol is dumb. He has already explained why he threw the lob but I guess that's not good enough.
If that is the answer, then he doesn't have the IQ to lead a team to D-I glory. This is two weeks in a row of bonehead plays. I don't care what your experience level - you don't lob it to an uncovered defender, and you don't throw it out of bounds on 4th down. And BTW - I'm giving a pass on the USC fumble. And to accept that the concussion protocol can't be tampered with, spun, pressured or whatever you want to call it with the game and season on the line - I'll be polite and call that naivete. Especially in light of the evaluations he is now undergoing. But just my 2 cents.
 
If that is the answer, then he doesn't have the IQ to lead a team to D-I glory. This is two weeks in a row of bonehead plays. I don't care what your experience level - you don't lob it to an uncovered defender, and you don't throw it out of bounds on 4th down. And BTW - I'm giving a pass on the USC fumble. And to accept that the concussion protocol can't be tampered with, spun, pressured or whatever you want to call it with the game and season on the line - I'll be polite and call that naivete. Especially in light of the evaluations he is now undergoing. But just my 2 cents.

Ok. It's funny how people just look at the negatives but when he gave us the lead against USC and OU he's amazing. When he makes mistakes "he's not the future" or doesn't have the "IQ to lead a team to D-1 glory" lol. OK! I still remember mistakes made by VY and Colt as well as them making great plays their freshmen years. Easy to forget though it's been years.

Look you and I don't know what was done behind that tent. I can only take the word of Dr's on that side line and I assume TH as well. It's not like we don't have a seasoned QB to step in if it's that dire. Maybe he's going under evaluations because of something that happened in the OSU game that no one was aware of at the time. What's to hide if we're making this public?
 
In Beck's godawful scheme where he runs Chris Warren sideways I agree with you.

Yeah, I have no idea why they think Warren can beat anyone to the outside or make a cut up field without completely slowing down first. Every time they try it's a no gain. I'd like to see Carter run more of that but then we would probably have a few more fumbles.
 
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Put Heard in at Wild Cat so we can run.
Isn't that basically what Greg Ward did for Herman at UH last year? Why not at this point. 10 pts against OSU with what we're currently doing is nothing short of abysmal.
 
think Sam is out this week and Heard was moved to qb .. coach's better get creative and figure out something
Baylor is no. 125 in total defense, no. 113 rushing defense, no. 125 passing defense and no. 123 in scoring defense. Boo will be fine for one week.
 
Ward was still a good passer though not so sure Heard is up to Ward's accuracy but as far as running/speed yeah they have the same abilities.

also think Ward had a pretty decent tight end(or two).

I, too, thought we would see more of Heard before now.
 
Anyone with eyes knows Sam was concussed against OU. Nice throw away out of bounds on 4th down to end the game.

Clearly re-injured against OSU, nice throw to end the game. You want to hang your hat on the fact he was cleared? Something stinks and it's obvious. Charlie would have pulled him, Herman didn't.
 
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The problem is how Sam runs. He always tries to get the extra yardage. He needs to go down when someone is coming up to hit him, run out of bounds earlier and not make them throw him out of bounds. Sam needs to start protecting himself better. He's our most effective runner so they will keep calling on him to run.
Both plays he was injured on were out of bounds with his head snapping to the turf...not battering ram plays.
 
Serious question...ya'll have two 3 star OL committed so far, what causes you to think next year's OL will be significantly different?

We are in it for a JUCO as well, but it doesn't really matter if we had a bunch of highly ranked guys committed or not as freshmen OL aren't going to provide much immediate help. Get some guys back from injury and hopefully the younger guys we are playing progress.
 
Serious question...ya'll have two 3 star OL committed so far, what causes you to think next year's OL will be significantly different?[/QUOTE

We have a true freshman and a Sophomore as starting tackles due to injuries.
 
Get some guys back from injury and hopefully the younger guys we are playing progress.

Exactly we need our injured back and the ones playing go on the depth chart. We'll be better next year from playing younger guys and also being under this offense another year. I forget who the poster was but he or she mentioned why we would have a player out there late in the game when we are up big. Well this is why! Someone is always going to get hurt and without experience they do us no good.
 
Both plays he was injured on were out of bounds with his head snapping to the turf...not battering ram plays.

Yeah I agree and I've said this before. Sam running out of bounds is equivalent to sliding in my opinion and I've seen where players slide to late and get hit anyway. It's just one of those things that's going to happen. Shane slides and he still ends up getting hurt some way or another that's exactly why he's not playing.
 
30 mins ago OB reporting QB Sam Ehlinger did not practice today and same goes for WR Reggie Hemphill-Mapps.

RB Kyle Porter has returned.

C Zach Shackleford was a no-go today as well.
 
I think it's great that our OC is using our badass FR QB as a battering ram. Solid game plan.
He's a tough kid but I agree it's not healthy
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Serious question...ya'll have two 3 star OL committed so far, what causes you to think next year's OL will be significantly different?
The rest of this year, spring practice and falll drills will provide that much more mental maturity, experience and the weight room will provide physical maturity as compared to where we are 1/2 way into this season.
 
I think it's great that our OC is using our badass FR QB as a battering ram. Solid game plan.
I think we should continue to run a QB power every third play and throw it another 40 times. at least until we have no scholarship quarterbacks left and have to use a WR at QB like baylor did not too long ago.
 
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SO, none of that is on SAM and the way he plays the game. Slide kid.
That's kind of a "fool me once..." situation. The coaches know how Sam plays. They're supposed to be the real adults in the room. It's up to them to make the point to slide EVERY freakin' time.

If they fail to do that, it becomes their game plan, as Scholz "sarcastimplied".
 
That's kind of a "fool me once..." situation. The coaches know how Sam plays. They're supposed to be the real adults in the room. It's up to them to make the point to slide EVERY freakin' time.

If they fail to do that, it becomes their game plan, as Scholz "sarcastimplied".
The kid runs because his OL collapses and he takes people head on our gets driven out of bounds and drives his head off the turf, that's not on Beck. His designed runs are limited.

They've told him, it's the way Sam has always played...Old habits die hard.
 
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