Summer Workouts Nugget

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  1. clob94

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    I'm not saying what day this happened, don't want to get anyone in trouble: had lunch today with a former team mate who popped in to say "hello" to some of the staff over there, and he got to watch about an hour of workouts in the dome. Said it was a mixture of speed/strength/conditioning drills as well as ball drills. Ball drills are mostly tip drills, fumble drills, wrs and dbs going in and out of breaks etc....

    So it appears we look pretty fast in the secondary. Like, really fast. Like, as fast as we've been in a decade. The dbs appear to be running circles around our wrs. I was told we've got dbs that can backpedal with REALLY low hips and open and turn on a dime. It also appears that our dbs will be lining up a little different that the past.....
    In the last few years, our dbs are usually 5-7 yards off the wrs so as to not let anyone past them. I was told that the vast majority of time, dbs were on the line jamming the sh!t out of the wrs. He said he was very impressed with their communications and overall togetherness. Everyone seemed to be on the same page. You'll remember past years I talked about watching safeties and corners arguing over coverages leading to us getting beat deep down the defenses left side for touchdowns..... and then watching the same miscommunication happen during a game we and get smoked for a td.......... he said that's not happening anymore.

    So, we look good there...... but wrs look a little weak. Said one of the running backs was showing some soft hands out of the backfield..... didn't say whom. Lots of wheel routes and flat route bailouts for the qb. No word on any of the TEs.

    That is all.
     
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  2. LongfellowDrew

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    Does that mean the DB's are just way better than our WR's so they look good in coverage?
     
  3. 2300 Nueces

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    So we are going to need a lot of pick 6's to score?
     
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    Thank you, clob94, for that info ---- That has to be encouraging!
     
  5. ASURAM2010

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    The DB group has a chance to be SPECIAL, really special this year and for the next few years. Would be awesome to get back to what it was with Huff, Jammer, Thomas, etc.
     
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    The best secondary we ever had, IMO, was 2009. (Led the nation in INTs)

    I'm not scared to say this secondary can be even better, for several years to come. Like Asuram said, special.

    So don't fret about our WRs. They're still damn good. They won't be facing these ridiculous DBs on Saturdays, and facing them in practice will only make them better.
     
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    Yes, good news indeed. Thanks for the scoop. Hope the back is feeling better.
     
  8. weevilcatch

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    As we all know, this will certainly help that DL out, quite a bit in the 3rd and medium to long situations!

    A strong 2ndary can help a lot of other areas out and mask some issues in the front 7.

    I'm super pumped!
     
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  9. BringBackRoyal

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    As good as 2009 was, I still have to give the nod to 2005 over them. That secondary had to cover up so many f*ckups by a group of LBs that was closer to bad than to mediocre -- especially after the Tech game, when Aaron Harris essentially disappeared for the rest of the year -- and they were still great. And there was an absolute stud at every position, which wasn't quite the case in 2009.
     
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    Any info on how Yancy McKnight is doing with the kids? During the spring I read that he was rebuilding the players physically.
     
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    Holy shit they were so good, and so talented.

    In 2005 Texas had all 3 Griffins (Cedric, Michael, Marcus), Huff, Ross, and Tarrell Brown.

    I had to look this up...

    Brown - 9 years in NFL, 311 tackles, 11 INT, 59 PBUs
    Ced Griffin - 7 years in NFL, 410 tkls, 8 INT, 52 PBUs and 15 forced fumbles
    Ross - 8 years in NFL, 250 tkls, 41 PBUs, 11 INT, 2 TDs
    Huff - 8 years in NFL, 446 tkls, 55 PBUs, 11 INT
    Ma. Griffin - Never made a roster
    Mi. Griffin - 10 seasons in NFL, 803 tkls, 25 INT, 12 forced fumbles

    That is a crap ton of production from one unit at a school at the same time.
     
  12. GuaranteedFresh!

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    Mmmmmmm, mmmmmm, mmmmmmm! I sure was thirsty for a little bit of kool-aid this summer & damn sure wasn't expecting the cocktail jockey to be Clob. He only serves the real deal, not that fake store brand stuff.

    We might not be "back" yet, but it sure looks like we're headed in the right direction again. I'm waiting for the day we get similar praise for our big uglies on the line, then we'll be back.
     
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  13. GuaranteedFresh!

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    Just curious, has your opinion of T Herman shifted any? Obviously we don't really know anything until we see results on the field but from what he inherited up to this point?
    It seems that he's in the good graces with TX HS coaches and we havn't been hearing about much, if any, turmoil in the locker room. I'm getting a warm-fuzzy for the program's future.
     
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    Didn't nobody ask fuh yo mutha f*ckin' opinion!

    Lol jk. Yeah i love the 2005 secondary as well. I can easily see how most would probably pick them. I know they didn't have the weak links like Curtis Brown and Blake whateverthef*ck his name was.

    That said, I just always felt more comfortable with our pass defense in 2009 than I did in 2005. Main two reasons, Earl Thomas and Aaron Williams.

    IMO, Earl was the best safety we've ever had, and that's saying a lot. I think he covered for any inefficiencies around him.

    I would also rank Aaron Williams slightly better than C. Griffin, Ross, and Brown. Just think he had better ball hawking skills, and was more of a freakish athlete.

    I would actually have them tied for the best, but this ain't kickball, and I don't like ties. Can't go wrong with either group, though.
     
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    I wonder if the RB was the guy from Cal?
     
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    No comment

     
  18. Cotton #12

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    Yes, I hope and think he is doing a good job.It is how TCU and Baylor came up out of the ashes of college football.It all really starts in athletic training and how good the coach is.TCU does not have much of a fall off year to year because of their training programs.
     
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    zero sum game.....WR's struggle because the DB's are so damned good.....or is it the DB's look so damned good because the WR's struggle?.....I like that they look F A S T !
    and I love to hear we are finally jamming the WR's at the line....
     
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    Well sir, everything you've said is totally reasonable. I just think the 2005 group would have looked even better if they had played behind the 2009 team's badass trio of starting LBs (best since at least 1983) instead of the sad group of misfits and f*ckups (only a slight exaggeration) that they were stuck with.

    At any rate, I just hope we all get to see something close to either group again before we're dead.
     
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    Very good point BBR. Not just the LBs, but that front seven led by Kindle and Houston was flat out nasty. Maybe because of them I just felt better about the entire defense. They didn't have to cover receivers long that's for sure.
     
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    My first thought as well. Pretty much has to be him, Tre Watson, as he can flex out to WR or Kirk Johnson.
     
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    Your silence is deafening. What can I say, you served a small shot of burnt orange kool-aid & I'm ready to go full blown pre-season aggy
     
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    I think the Kstate chick has what you're looking for. :)
     
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  25. LonghornMM

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    Herman gon be alright. You watch...
     
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  26. Longyac

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    I hope his giving Beck, Warehime, and Mehringer another year so he can pimp to coaches you get two years minimum at Texas doesn't bite his ass in recruiting for 2019. I also hope he's learned his lesson about hiring his bros. He's at Texas now, he can go after a lot more coaches that he couldn't at UH.
     
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    I’m curious how they tackle. Rodney Anderson and Trey Sermon are going to looking for some contact once they get thru that DL in Dallas lol
     
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  29. Longyac

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    Doubt Gary Johnson leaves anything for them to clean up.
     

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