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No list all the ones that didn't work out...it honestly makes zero sense how obtuse you're being. "Well, we may not get the good coach, so don't even talk to his people...we're too good to be told no."
And by the by, I put Jeremy Pruitt on my list of coaches.
Who is on your list DJ?
I like that list. Sark is a guy that would probably still be at USC had it not been for his alcohol problems which he has seemed to defeat. I really like Jim Leonard surprised someone in college or pros hasn’t given him a shot yet. I found out the other day that Dan Lanning was a college teammate of a high school classmate of mine. Small worldI"m being obtuse? You want to choose from an applicant pile of 6 or 7 coaches that are all paid around $9M a year. And I have no problem reaching out to any of those coaches to see if they are interested. Anyone with sense already knows that they aren't, but it never hurts to ask.
My list:
Urban Meyer
Gary Patterson
Bob Stoops
Pete Carroll
Tony Dungy
Chris Petersen
Bryan Harsin
Art Briles
David Shaw
Brent Venables
Dan Lanning
Steve Sarkisian
Mario Cristobal
Jim Leonard
Luke Fickel
Chris Klieman
James Franklin
Gus Malhzan
Brian Daboll
Greg Roman
Josh McDaniels
I"m being obtuse? You want to choose from an applicant pile of 6 or 7 coaches that are all paid around $9M a year. And I have no problem reaching out to any of those coaches to see if they are interested. Anyone with sense already knows that they aren't, but it never hurts to ask.
My list:
Urban Meyer
Gary Patterson
Bob Stoops
Pete Carroll
Tony Dungy
Chris Petersen
Bryan Harsin
Art Briles
David Shaw
Brent Venables
Dan Lanning
Steve Sarkisian
Mario Cristobal
Jim Leonard
Luke Fickel
Chris Klieman
James Franklin
Gus Malhzan
Brian Daboll
Greg Roman
Josh McDaniels
He was mediocre for his entire career. But he did play pretty well in those 2 SB runs, although they only scored 17 and 21 in those wins over NE.
Sounds like you and I are finally on the same page. And we have a lot of the same names.
Normally I’d agree with that, but I think the jobs at the top of college football are so different it is hard to succeed if you don’t have HC expirence the asst coaches that have been successful moving from asst to HC typically we’re with that university as an asst(Day, Dabo, etc) or an alum of the university like Kirby smart. Doesn’t mean that like Dan Lanning couldn’t come here and do well, but it’s just extremely challengingMy point has always been to not exclude the guys without HC experience from your search and choose the guy you really believe in regardless of what his resume says.
I truly believe that Gary Joseph could easily run a major college football program. I'm not saying he should get an interview, but he's as good a coach as half that list.
Normally I’d agree with that, but I think the jobs at the top of college football are so different it is hard to succeed if you don’t have HC expirence the asst coaches that have been successful moving from asst to HC typically we’re with that university as an asst(Day, Dabo, etc) or an alum of the university like Kirby smart. Doesn’t mean that like Dan Lanning couldn’t come here and do well, but it’s just extremely challenging
Well like in Kirby Smart’s case being an alum of UGA I’m sure he knew a lot of the boosters and power brokers from his playing days and/or though former teammates and friends. Building those relationships especially at bigger schools is half the battle for a new coach. A lot of coaching hires fail because the coach doesn’t have backing in the right places. Plus I think as an alum I think you can recruit the university differently than most coaches. It’s more personal and doesn’t come across as being phony.When Dabo took over Clemson, they were hot garbage.
How does being an alum of the university you coach have anything to do with your success?
Well like in Kirby Smart’s case being an alum of UGA I’m sure he knew a lot of the boosters and power brokers from his playing days and/or though former teammates and friends. Building those relationships especially at bigger schools is half the battle for a new coach. A lot of coaching hires fail because the coach doesn’t have backing in the right places. Plus I think as an alum I think you can recruit the university differently than most coaches. It’s more personal and doesn’t come across as being phony.
Sounds like you and I are finally on the same page. And we have a lot of the same names.
There's a certain breed of alphas that are wired differently - a super alpha. These are the types of people that others ask: "That person has enough money, why doesn't he/she just walk away and just relax?"
The problem is these super alphas are not motivated solely by money - as long as they're paid market money, it's not an issue. These alphas just can't turn off the switch. They may take a break from being in the game for a year or two but they need the feeling of the adrenaline drip in the pit of their stomach. They can't function without it. It's who they are; it's power, it's the ability to mold, shape, and control. It's the physiological need to be challenged. They live off of that adrenaline drip.
These are people in all facets of life. Coaching, business, politics. They're easy to spot. Bloomberg, Trump, very likely Stoops. I've been surrounded by this breed in the business world and, in my experience, it is rare that a super alpha in his/her prime just walks away.
We'll see about Meyers. My guess is that he's one of those people that needs the adrenaline drip as a life source - whether at UT or elsewhere.
Well said! I'm fairly confident in saying that folks like you and I can spot them a mile away.And there's the opposite, they tend to populate buraeucratic jobs that exact power. They populate universities and governments. They are lazy and controlling. I call them belmont administrators.
There's a certain breed of alphas that are wired differently - a super alpha. These are the types of people that others ask: "That person has enough money, why doesn't he/she just walk away and just relax?"
The problem is these super alphas are not motivated solely by money - as long as they're paid market money, it's not an issue. These alphas just can't turn off the switch. They may take a break from being in the game for a year or two but they need the feeling of the adrenaline drip in the pit of their stomach. They can't function without it. It's who they are; it's power, it's the ability to mold, shape, and control. It's the physiological need to be challenged. They live off of that adrenaline drip.
These are people in all facets of life. Coaching, business, politics. They're easy to spot. Bloomberg, Trump, very likely Stoops. I've been surrounded by this breed in the business world and, in my experience, it is rare that a super alpha in his/her prime just walks away.
We'll see about Meyers. My guess is that he's one of those people that needs the adrenaline drip as a life source - whether at UT or elsewhere.
There are definitely people who seek power for all the wrong reasons and sadly many do achieve the status that allows them to adversely impact others.. But others sincerely work tirelessly to positively impact the lives of their players...Well said! I'm fairly confident in saying that folks like you and I can spot them a mile away.
You hit the nail on the head with respect to Meyer. If he gets bored and feels the need to come back again and compete he will. No amount of money will draw him out of retirement -- for him, it is purely a matter of competition and personal fulfillment. Meyer typically drops cryptic hints before he makes big decisions. Haven't heard any of that yet. Until that happens, his chances of coming out of retirement and also going to UT are very low. I believe UTs best chance of getting the best coach is to focus on others and keep a secondary eye out on Meyer to see if he has any stirring to coach again.We'll see about Meyers. My guess is that he's one of those people that needs the adrenaline drip as a life source - whether at UT or elsewhere.
Too much in place there. Money talks tho.
It’s better Texas finds a way with current regime.
Bottom line:
Yurlich and Ash in first years which your urban cries seem to forget abou
you guys go 7-3 Or 8-2 this year and spot in Arlington, you’ll be singing a different tune. Especially with an NY6 bowl win.
No reason Texas can’t win out either.
Giddy up... Hit tip to Clob
https://texastakes.com/2020/11/03/c...firmed-he-had-urban-meyers-verbal-commitment/
Knew this two weeks ago. Told you I knew this. Came on here and posted this. Just now making it into the press I see.Giddy up... Hit tip to Clob
https://texastakes.com/2020/11/03/c...firmed-he-had-urban-meyers-verbal-commitment/
Knew this two weeks ago. Told you I knew this. Came on here and posted this. Just now making it into the press I see.