Very interesting story on DGB and Norvell

[jsto60]

To sum it up, DGB says he would have returned to OU if Norvell had too.


Take that Okies that have bashed the UT WR hire.

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/17/report-dgb-wouldve-returned-to-ou-if-jay-norvell-did-too/

 

[jsto60]

Oklahoma's collapse against Oklahoma State and Clemson may have cost the Sooners more than just a couple games. It probably cost co-offensive coordinator Jay Norvell his job, which in turn cost OU a season of Dorial Green-Beckham.
At least, that's how NFL Network's Albert Breer tells it. In a story about what he calls the player with "more to lose - or gain" than any at this week's NFL Combine, Breer details, through anonymous NFL sources who evaluated DGB, his demeanor during his silent 2014 season.
"According to the information gathered by a number of NFL evaluators, Green-Beckham walked the straight and narrow as, in essence, a very well-known practice-squader last fall," he writes. "He was there for early-morning workouts, quickly established himself as a star on the practice field and planned to stay for the 2015 season. Those plans changed after the firing of co-offensive coordinator Jay Norvell, with whom Green-Beckham had built a strong relationship, but the gifted prospect was able to leave OU under much better circumstances than he did Mizzou."
That type of report will endear him to the world's most judgmental group - the aforementioned anonymous NFL talent evaluators - after one noteworthy season at Missouri followed by a hasty, ugly exit.
DGB could've erased all doubts about his game and his character by returning to Norman. Lincoln Riley's offense undoubtedly would have delivered him the ball as often as his hands could grasp it. But, risky as it is to jump into the NFL on a 13-month break from competitive football, returning to Oklahoma was not without risks, either. The Sooners' quarterback situation is unsettled (at best) and the risk of injury is omnipresent.
But when you get one NFL scout to sing your praises like this, leaving early seems like the much smaller risk: "He's one of the best receivers I've ever seen," said the scout. "He's special. He's gigantic; he has tremendous body control, balance; he runs like a deer and can leap out of the gym and high-point the ball. He's special. It's impressive. If not for all that stuff, he'd be the best receiver to come out since Calvin Johnson."

 

[Belldozer1]

Originally posted by jsto60:
To sum it up, DGB says he would have returned to OU if Norvell had too.


Take that Okies that have bashed the UT WR hire.

If you believe that then you are more naive than you seem. Nobody who is projected to be a top 15 pick without taking a single snap all year ain't coming back, junior. Norvell did a decent job at OU, I'll give him that but he was far from perfect.
This post was edited on 2/17 10:14 PM by Belldozer1

 

[utisdabomb12]

Who has DGB projected as a top 15 pick? Belldouche again just making stuff up. Most mock drafts I've seen have DGB going in the second round.

This post was edited on 2/18 4:13 AM by utisdabomb12

Link

 

[TexExSpur]

Originally posted by utisdabomb12:
Who has DGB projected as a top 15 pick? Belldouche again just making stuff up. Most mock drafts I've seen have DGB going in the second round.

This post was edited on 2/18 4:13 AM by utisdabomb12

Yup! Without his past events, he would have been the top WR coming out in this draft. That is simply not the case anymore...

 

[Belldozer1]

Originally posted by utisdabomb12:
Who has DGB projected as a top 15 pick? Belldouche again just making stuff up. Most mock drafts I've seen have DGB going in the second round.


This post was edited on 2/18 4:13 AM by utisdabomb12

I had thought I saw a mock draft that had him in the top 15 but perhaps I am mistaken but there were several who had him going in the 1st round so I'm really not that far off and that was certainly around the time he declared for the draft. If things have changed since December or January when those mock drafts came out I don't know. A simple google of DGB projected to go in the first round will produce those results. Not making anything up.
Maybe you can fire up your twitter machine and asked the same trolls that gave you your concrete premium recruiting info that came true.....oh wait.....nevermind

 

[utisdabomb12]

"Maybe you can fire up your twitter machine and asked the same trolls that gave you your concrete premium recruiting info that came true.....oh wait.....nevermind."

I share information that I'm told. I will continue to share it whether it ends up being right or wrong. Recruiting shifts, so not really sure what your point is Belldouche. If you read Higdon's final recruiting report he pretty much verified what I was told.

But good call on DGB being a top 15 pick.

This post was edited on 2/18 8:23 AM by utisdabomb12

 

[Belldozer1]

Originally posted by utisdabomb12:
"Maybe you can fire up your twitter machine and asked the same trolls that gave you your concrete premium recruiting info that came true.....oh wait.....nevermind."

I share information that I'm told. I will continue to share it whether it ends up being right or wrong. Recruiting shifts, so not really sure what your point is Belldouche.

But good call on DGB being a top 15 pick.

DGB has for sure been projected as a 1st round pick. I will look to see if I can find where I saw that he was projected to be a top 15 pick. You on the other hand looked ridiculous trolling 18 year olds twitter accounts and trying to glean info from them. They finally got tired of your shenanigans and fed you a line of crap which you gobbled up and claimed you had inside info, you my friend are the DOUCHE

 

[utisdabomb12]

"DGB has for sure been projected as a 1st round pick."

Great. You said top 15, that isn't true. Stop changing your story Belldouche.

FYI there are as many people projecting him in the second round as the first round.


You on the other hand looked ridiculous trolling 18 year olds twitter accounts and trying to glean info from them.

I follow recruits on Twitter. I've never once denied it. I never initiate contact through DMs. If you want to follow recruiting you have to follow recruits on twitter. It's a necessary evil. Granted, you know nothing about recruiting so it makes sense.

They finally got tired of your shenanigans and fed you a line of crap which you gobbled up and claimed you had inside info, you my friend are the DOUCHE

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He didn't feed me anything that was a "line of crap". Like I said, Higdon pretty much verified verbatim what he told me in the DM. Carry on though Belldouche. Poor guy got called out for saying DGB was a top 15 draft pick, and now all he has is straw man attacks.



This post was edited on 2/18 8:35 AM by utisdabomb12

 

[HornsUp128]

I've been reading tons of mock drafts since December/January... I have yet to see one with DGB in the first round, let alone top 15

 

[utisdabomb12]

Belldouche we are waiting for all these people that have recently projected DGB in the top 15. More then a couple sources would be nice, since ya know outliers and all.

The link I posted above had 4 projections, none of which had DGB in the top 15. I can provide more evidence if you need it.

 

[Belldozer1]

Bullcrap bomb you spouted off about having inside info given to you and indicated and indinuated on several different occasions that your inside sources indicated that Murray was coming to Texas and his commitment would cause the other dominoes to fall. Do not crawfish you little dweeb. Just pointing out that you are trying to dog me about me claiming DGB was a top 15 pick when in fact he has been projected to be a 1st round pick by several, looks awfully douchey on your part in light of your epic inside info recruiting fail.

 

[utisdabomb12]

"indinuated on several different occasions that your inside sources indicated that Murray was coming to Texas and his commitment would cause the other dominoes to fall."

Another bold faced lie.

I said both Boyds would commit on the same day. I said Hill would commit. I said Warren was a silent commit. I said Locksley, Soso and Mack were telling recruits on their OVs that they were coming to Texas. Higdon pretty much verified all this in his last recruiting write up. The only thing Higdon didn't verify are the two FSU players that called Strong during Locksley's OV.

I never once said that I was DM'ed about anything related to Murray or Lodge. I'll wait for you to show me one post where I said I was DM'ed that both Lodge and Murray were coming to Texas.


Do not crawfish you little dweeb.

Crawfish? This thread is about DGB, I'm not sure why you tried to derail it Belldouche. FYI I'm still waiting for your "source" on DGB going in the top 15.





This post was edited on 2/18 8:47 AM by utisdabomb12

This post was edited on 2/18 8:50 AM by utisdabomb12

 

[Belldozer1]

Bomb, I know the interwebs are complicated unlike your twitter machine but here is a simple article I googled about DGB potentially going in the first round. Read the end of the article about the 2 others prognosticators who have DGB potentially going in the 1st round too. Every mock draft is a projection full of speculation. This was found on NFL.com no less. Now I will go and see if I can find the mock draft where DGB was projected to be a top 15 pick as I earlier claimed. If I can't find it I have no problem admitting it. No need to derail here bomb just presenting your true hypocrisy, you still look foolish btw

This post was edited on 2/18 8:53 AM by Belldozer1


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Oklahoma defensive lineman Dorial Green-Beckham are high-risk, high-reward prospects in the NFL draft this year, but either one could be a first-round pick, according to NFL Media analyst Mike Mayock. Asked who could be "boom or bust" propositions for NFL clubs, Mayock identified Phillips, the 6-foot-4, 335-pound Sooners giant who has just one full season as a college starter on his resume, and Green-Beckham, who hasn't played since 2013 and spent last year on the practice field at OU under NCAA transfer rules.




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This post was edited on 2/18 8:55 AM by Belldozer1

 

[utisdabomb12]

"Bomb, I know the interwebs are complicated unlike your twitter machine but here is a simple article I googled about DGB potentially going in the first round."

1-Again, Belldouche you said "top 15" not "1st round". Do you have short term memory, Belldouche?

2-Did you even read the article? It says two NFL media analysts project DGB in the first round, two. Two out of what like 50? It doesn't really matter to begin with, you said "top 15" and there hasn't been a single source that projects him higher than 18 that I've seen.


Now I will go and see if I can find the mock draft where DGB was projected to be a top 15 pick as I earlier claimed.

I'm still waiting Belldouche. More then one source would be nice.

 

[TexExSpur]

He's probably a wiki type of guy... If it's on the internet, it must be true....

 

[utisdabomb12]

 

[Belldozer1]

Haha so now one source isn't enough you need more? Dude you look so weak here it's not even funny. Let me ask you a simple question simpleton: do you think a player who hasn't played in a year is going to pass up the draft if he is projected in the 1st round? The answer is no Bomb.norvell staying had nothing to do with DGB's decision, none.

 

[TexExSpur]

Wasn't it DGB that said it? I'll simply go with his words over your assumptions.

 

[utisdabomb12]

"Haha so now one source isn't enough you need more?"

I'm still just waiting on one recent source that has DGB going in the top 15.

And yes, more than one source would be nice Belldouche.

 

[Belldozer1]

Bomb now you are trying to move the goalposts just as you did earlier. I provided an article from NFL.com where 3 people project him in the 1st round and now you need more proof. Now you have crawfished and want a "recent" article of DGB being projected in the top 15. Not gonna cut it son. When I get a little time today I will search for the article I read and them I'm going to look into your inside info recruiting claims. I'm smelling bullshit.

 

[bubba2023]

I don't really understand the point of the argument going on. You don't hire/fire coaches based on their influence of one player especially a WR with DGB's background.

You can argue whether or not Norvell was the problem at OU, but that doesn't seem to be the topic here.

 

[Scholz]

blakebellblows is trying to spin and mitigate losing Norvell to us, making up a story about DGB supposedly (and without support apparently) going in the top 15 and that he would've left anyway.

 

[Fizzwilly]

Why are you guys pissing over 15 or 18th. Neither of you know diddly about where he will be drafted. It is hard to refute, his time at OU was good for him. Norvell and Stoops gave him a second chance. Once he was denied playing last year as both Norvell and Stoops hoped, it was a foregone conclusion that he would enter the draft. He told OU player weeks before the Norvell move that he was gone.

Of course he likes Norvell, Norvell was behind throwing him a life ring.

 

[bubba2023]

OU felt like they needed to part ways with Norvell whether or not that was correct will be seen. It could just be a case where a change in scenery does a lot of good for both sides, but the fact that Norvell might mean 1 year of DGB or not shouldn't affect that decision. It seems like the argument is that OU is stupid for letting Norvell go because it cost them DGB, which is ridiculous even if it's true.

You don't keep a coach that you feel can't get it done just for 1 year of DGB.

If Chambers for some reason had this kind of influence over Malcom Brown and retaining him meant Brown would stay for his SR season, I would hope Strong would still have fired him, and Brown is more of a known college commodity than DGB.

 

[utisdabomb12]

Bomb now you are trying to move the goalposts just as you did earlier. I provided an article from NFL.com where 3 people project him in the 1st round and now you need more proof.

You still haven't backed up your claim of "top 15". You have serious reading comprehension problems.

"Now you have crawfished and want a "recent" article of DGB being projected in the top 15."

You haven't posted a single source in this thread that said DGB would be drafted in the top 15. Back up your claim Belldouche.

This post was edited on 2/18 11:12 AM by utisdabomb12

 

[Fizzwilly]

Norvell,was a good get for Texas. Only time will tell if it was good for OU to part ways with him. It is a known fact that Stoops helped charlie hook up with Norvell..

This post was edited on 2/18 11:26 AM by Fizzwilly

 

[utisdabomb12]

"Neither of you know diddly about where he will be drafted."

I've never claimed to know where he will be drafted. I do know where he's being projected. Sorry that I caught Belldouche in another one of his bold faced lies. If Belldouche is going to say DGB will be drafted in the "top 15" he should probably substantiate such claims.
This post was edited on 2/18 11:09 AM by utisdabomb12

 

[BillyRay]

Originally posted by bubba2023:
OU felt like they needed to part ways with Norvell whether or not that was correct will be seen. It could just be a case where a change in scenery does a lot of good for both sides, but the fact that Norvell might mean 1 year of DGB or not shouldn't affect that decision. It seems like the argument is that OU is stupid for letting Norvell go because it cost them DGB, which is ridiculous even if it's true.

You don't keep a coach that you feel can't get it done just for 1 year of DGB.

If Chambers for some reason had this kind of influence over Malcom Brown and retaining him meant Brown would stay for his SR season, I would hope Strong would still have fired him, and Brown is more of a known college commodity than DGB.

This sums it up pretty damn good right here.

And not many OU fans bashed UT for the hire, but most OU fans certainly were in favor of Norvell being fired from OU.

 

[Scholz]

Originally posted by Fizzwilly:

It is a known fact that Stoops helped charlie hook up with Norvell.

Link?