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Scholz, I will try to find it. Charlie called Stoops and Stoops told him he better hurry because he was getting calls from several coaches. Stoops gave Norvell a good recommendation according to the article I read.
 
Charlie Strong: Bob Stoops told me to call Jay Norvell right awayPosted by: Chris Vannini on Sunday January 25, 2015

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Jay Norvell has switched sides in the Red River Rivalry, joining the Texas staff as wide receivers coach after being let go at Oklahoma, and Charlie Strong felt it was a hire he needed to make.
It was also a hire Bob Stoops helped facilitate.
In an interview on the Longhorn Network, Strong talked about a number of topics, and made it clear hiring Norvell was something that needed to get done.



"Whatever happened at Oklahoma, I called Coach Stoops. We had a great conversation," Strong said. "Bob said to me, 'Listen, Charlie, he's got two or three other interviews. If you want him, you'd better go right now. I'll do whatever I can to help you. You need to call him right away.' When I called, (Norvell) said, 'Coach, I do have this other opportunity. I'd like to look at it.'
"I tried to convince him this is the right place, the right fit. We had numerous conversations, and finally, he came on board with us. I knew at the time, we needed Jay Norvell in our program. We need someone special like that . Once you get around him and get to know who he is, you can see why he's had the success he's had."
Norvell had been with the Sooners since 2008, also working as a co-offensive coordinator. Other stops in his career include UCLA, Nebraska, Iowa State, the NFL and more.
His experience in the Big 12 and recruiting Texas players will make the transition smooth.
"It's all about character-building," Strong said. "A lot of times, people say, 'What is he going to bring to the table?' He'll bring to the table, because the coaching aspect is good. Now, what is he going to bring to the table as a person. How well he communicates with players. How well the players respect him. Now, you get instant credibility with Jay coming in, because a lot of these players know him, because he's recruited them. I had a young man, when I hired Jay, he called and said, 'Coach, that was my best recruiter. I'm so glad he's on board.'"
The Longhorns went 6-7 in 2014, capped by a 31-7 Texas Bowl loss to Arkansas in which the Longhorns had 59 total yards. After that game, Strong said he didn't want to say anything he would regret, but a message is being sent for winter conditioning and spring ball. The same goes for the coaching staff.
"It's all about going and being the best, and we didn't do that," Strong said. "A lot of games, it's like we didn't show up. I think back last season, it's probably why I can't ever sleep at night. You replay some of those games, and you get very upset thinking about it. I just get mad at myself, because I'm the head coach, and things should be done differently.
"I look at our assistant coaches, and we had a meeting. I told them, 'We didn't coach our best. We allowed that. If we don't go and be our best, then don't expect it from the players.' That's what happened, and we didn't do the job."
There is still a tight ends / special teams job open on the Texas staff. Keep track of open FBS assistant jobs here.

This post was edited on 2/18 12:11 PM by Fizzwilly
 
Scholz, i can't get article to post. you can google the heading and read the article for yourself.
This post was edited on 2/18 10:12 AM by Fizzwilly
 
The article was on coaching search.com and it was a quote from an interview Charlie did on LHN.


Jay Norvell has switched sides in the Red River Rivalry, joining the Texas staff as wide receivers coach after being let go at Oklahoma, and Charlie Strong felt it was a hire he needed to make.
It was also a hire Bob Stoops helped facilitate.
In an interview on the Longhorn Network, Strong talked about a number of topics, and made it clear hiring Norvell was something that needed to get done.
 
Originally posted by Belldozer1:
Originally posted by jsto60:
To sum it up, DGB says he would have returned to OU if Norvell had too.


Take that Okies that have bashed the UT WR hire.
If you believe that then you are more naive than you seem. Nobody who is projected to be a top 15 pick without taking a single snap all year ain't coming back, junior.
What exactly would be his motivation for lying then?
This post was edited on 2/18 12:36 PM by tummer
 
Originally posted by tummer:
Originally posted by Belldozer1:
Originally posted by jsto60:
To sum it up, DGB says he would have returned to OU if Norvell had too.


Take that Okies that have bashed the UT WR hire.
If you believe that then you are more naive than you seem.
What exactly would be his motivation for lying then?

This post was edited on 2/18 12:28 PM by tummer
I have no inside knowledge, but DGB and Norvell were very close. I am sure he was defending Norvell and pissed OU let Norvell go.
 
Originally posted by Fizzwilly:

Originally posted by tummer:
Originally posted by Belldozer1:
Originally posted by jsto60:
To sum it up, DGB says he would have returned to OU if Norvell had too.


Take that Okies that have bashed the UT WR hire.
If you believe that then you are more naive than you seem.
What exactly would be his motivation for lying then?

This post was edited on 2/18 12:28 PM by tummer
I have no inside knowledge, but DGB and Norvell were very close. I am sure he was defending Norvell and pissed OU let Norvell go.
So he "defends" Norvell by lying to the NFL?

Dude, your spinning makes no sense.
 
Any Sooner that thought Norvell was an issue as WR coach, clearly didn't see the QBs throwing the ball.
 
Originally posted by tummer:

Originally posted by Belldozer1:

Originally posted by jsto60:
To sum it up, DGB says he would have returned to OU if Norvell had too.


Take that Okies that have bashed the UT WR hire.
If you believe that then you are more naive than you seem.
What exactly would be his motivation for lying then?


This post was edited on 2/18 12:28 PM by tummer
Playing some devil's advocate here, but he's dumb, immature, and probably a little crazy. I mean what was his motivation for throwing his GF down the stairs? He wouldn't be first person to lie for no apparent reason.

Aside from that to quote George Costanza "it's not a lie if you believe it"
 
Tummer, Like I said, I have no inside knowledge but it isn't a huge leap to feel DGB was pissed at OU for letting Norvell go and he jabbed OU by saying he would have stayed.

I know for a fact he told several players he was leaving two weeks before the Norvell firing.

Just so you don't go down the wrong rabbit trail, I have previously said Norvell is a good hire by Texas.

I knew you didn't have me on ignore.
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Charlie said it was made clear that if he wanted to hire Norvell he needed to act quick. Norvell already had several offers on the table... Stoops didn't help facilitate the hire other than saying, shit or get off the pot!
 
Originally posted by TexExSpur:
Charlie said it was made clear that if he wanted to hire Norvell he needed to act quick. Norvell already had several offers on the table... Stoops didn't help facilitate the hire other than saying, shit or get off the pot!
"Whatever happened at Oklahoma, I called Coach Stoops. We had a great conversation," Strong said. "Bob said to me, 'Listen, Charlie, he's got two or three other interviews. If you want him, you'd better go right now. I'll do whatever I can to help you. You need to call him right away[/B].' When I called, (Norvell) said, 'Coach, I do have this other opportunity. I'd like to look at it.'
 
Originally posted by Fizzwilly:

I knew you didn't have me on ignore.
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When did I ever claim that I did?

In fact, I've never put anyone on ignore. Ignore is for women.
 
Originally posted by Fizzwilly:

Originally posted by TexExSpur:
Charlie said it was made clear that if he wanted to hire Norvell he needed to act quick. Norvell already had several offers on the table... Stoops didn't help facilitate the hire other than saying, shit or get off the pot!
"Whatever happened at Oklahoma, I called Coach Stoops. We had a great conversation," Strong said. "Bob said to me, 'Listen, Charlie, he's got two or three other interviews. If you want him, you'd better go right now. I'll do whatever I can to help you. You need to call him right away[/B].' When I called, (Norvell) said, 'Coach, I do have this other opportunity. I'd like to look at it.'
I think he was headed to Whisky until Strong came along.

This post was edited on 2/18 1:20 PM by TexExSpur
 
I seem to be having difficulty finding an article with a top 15 projection for DGB. Hanging my head in shame.
 
Originally posted by Belldozer1:
I seem to be having difficulty finding an article with a top 15 projection for DGB. Hanging my head in shame.
Least you can admit it.
 
Originally posted by BillyRay:
Originally posted by bubba2023:
OU felt like they needed to part ways with Norvell whether or not that was correct will be seen. It could just be a case where a change in scenery does a lot of good for both sides, but the fact that Norvell might mean 1 year of DGB or not shouldn't affect that decision. It seems like the argument is that OU is stupid for letting Norvell go because it cost them DGB, which is ridiculous even if it's true.

You don't keep a coach that you feel can't get it done just for 1 year of DGB.

If Chambers for some reason had this kind of influence over Malcom Brown and retaining him meant Brown would stay for his SR season, I would hope Strong would still have fired him, and Brown is more of a known college commodity than DGB.
This sums it up pretty damn good right here.

And not many OU fans bashed UT for the hire, but most OU fans certainly were in favor of Norvell being fired from OU.


Here is my take on Norvell. He is a very good WR coach and it was a good hire by UT. He is not a good Co-OC. And OU needed an identity change on offense. So axing Norvell/Heupel were good fires. The two are mutually exclusive. Its like Muschamp or Wade Phillips etc. Loved the Cowboys firing Phillips as their HC and loved the Texans hiring him as their DC. Good firing of Muschamp by UF, and great hire for DC by Auburn.

But OU fans were here in drones acting like we were taking their leftover garbage. That isn't the case. It would have been, had we hired Norvell as an OC. But as a recruiter and WR coach, he is a good one. So we made that point. And then OU fans bashed his ability to recruit and gave him zero credit for all the WRs that set records under his watch and acted like their WR position is devoid due to him..


So this article was a direct response to that kind of talk. Now this is all just chatter out of DGBs mouth. Maybe if Norvell stays, he still goes when the dangling of a top round pick comes in to his life. But by his own words, he valued Norvell that much, that he would have stayed. That is interesting info. And good news to speak of on the recent UT WR coach hire. But of course, predictably, Okie fan is here trying to make some garbage up and ignore DGBs own words and find some way to spin this whole topic.
 
Damn, JSTO That clears up everything. Hell wish we had all just let you put everything in complete perspective a lot sooner.
 
Originally posted by Fizzwilly:
Damn, JSTO That clears up everything. Hell wish we had all just let you put everything in complete perspective a lot sooner.
Thanks for the sarcasm fizzy.

Look, I just posted an article. I am not responsible for all the stupid spinning responses by belldoucher and co.

So how about an honest take on my previous comment? If I remember correctly you were one of the few sooner fans here saying Norvell was a nice hire for WR coach. (unlike belldoucher and co who obviously still can't find anything good to say about anything associated with UT....he literally was praising Norvells work in recruiting and with WRs one week and then bashing him the next week when he signs with Texas)
 
Originally posted by HornsUp128:


Originally posted by Belldozer1:
I seem to be having difficulty finding an article with a top 15 projection for DGB. Hanging my head in shame.
Least you can admit it.
Thanks Horns up, even though I couldn't produce the top 15 draft projection I had seen previously I was able to come up with this top 10 draft projection for DGB. You can suck it Bomb. Let me guess, instead of being a man here, you are going to request more proof and pull your usual shenanigans.

2015 NFL Mock Draft: Jameis Winston to Jets, Marcus Mariota to Bucs



By Rob Rang | The Sports Xchange/CBSSports.com

November 3, 2014 12:10 am ET





















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The strengths of the 2015 NFL draft appear to be at defensive end, wide receiver and running back but the fundamental concept of supply and demand could push quarterbacks Jameis Winston and Marcus Mariota, as well as safety Landon Collins into the top 10.

Quarterback and safety have never been more valued than in today's pass-happy NFL and with the depth at these positions lacking this year, teams needing help at the respective positions could be forced to roll the dice.

The following is my latest first round projection of the 2015 NFL Draft.

*The selection order for this mock draft is based on the current records of teams with point differential breaking all ties. The Cleveland Browns own the rights to the Buffalo Bills' selection due to the Sammy Watkins trade.

1. Oakland Raiders - Leonard Williams, DT, Southern Cal: As the only winless franchise in the NFL this season, the Raiders are projected to "earn" the No. 1 overall in 2015. Teams picking at the top will always look to available quarterbacks first, but rookie Derek Carr has been a relative bright spot for Oakland. Second on the priority list for teams in today's NFL are defensive linemen. The 6-5, 290 pound Williams is a physical mismatch too quick for interior linemen and too powerful for offensive tackles.

2. Jacksonville Jaguars - Randy Gregory, DE, Nebraska: The Jaguars' record isn't pretty but head coach Gus Bradley's infectious enthusiasm, a hard-hitting defense and talented rookie quarterback Blake Bortles have this franchise on the upswing. Gregory is well-suited to starring in Bradley's hybrid 4-3 alignment at the LEO defensive end, as he's long (6-5, 242 pounds), explosive and passionate against both the run and pass.

3. New York Jets - Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State: Unless the Jets suddenly turn things around, Rex Ryan will be coaching elsewhere in 2015 and that may just be the start of the changes. Current general manager John Idzik is not the kind of risk-taker to gamble on Famous Jameis' propensity for off-field trouble but his potential replacement could be more adventurous. Regardless of what you think about Winston's character, it is hard to deny his talent. In terms of size, arm, mobility and instincts, he's the top quarterback prospect in the country.

4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Marcus Mariota, QB, Oregon: Though reasonably productive since taking over for free agent addition Josh McCown, Mike Glennon remains overly reliant on his arm, showing little ability to escape pressure or poise when the pocket breaks down. These are traits absolutely critical in today's game. Mariota is a work in progress, himself, but he shows good awareness in the pocket, a live arm and, of course, great mobility. Mariota's speed and the great size of Tampa's pass-catchers would put an awful lot of stress on opposing defenses.

5. Clemson: Rookie Zach Mettenberger will be given every opportunity to prove he can be Ken Whisenhunt's starting quarterback. The Titans didn't address their need for outside rushers to fit new defensive coordinator Ray Horton's scheme in the 2014 draft but could see the highly athletic Beasley as the perfect fit. Beasley possesses an explosive first step to create immediate stress on quarterbacks, as well as the acceleration to chase down ball-carriers from behind.

6. Atlanta Falcons - Shawn Oakman, DE, Baylor: Surrendering a 21-point lead to lose to Detroit is just the latest kick in the gut for Atlanta this season. The Falcons have the firepower on offense to compete but lack difference-makers on the defensive front. Powerful and shockingly athletic given his massive (6-foot-8, 275 pounds) frame, Oakman possesses the kind of traits teams are willing to gamble on.

7. Alabama: Washington hasn't boasted a truly fearsome safety since the late Sean Taylor was patrolling the deep middle. At 6-0, 215 pounds, Collins isn't as big as the former phenom, but he shows a similarly exciting blend of explosiveness and ball-skills.

8. St. Louis Rams - Dorial Green-Beckham, WR, Cincinnati Bengals' star A.J. Green for his size, speed and ball-skills but he comes with significant off-field concerns. Jeff Fisher has been more willing than most to gamble on players with character red-flags and he could see DGB as simply too talented to pass up.

9. Chicago Bears - Shane Ray, DE/OLB, Missouri: Despite investments in free agency and the draft, the Bears' defense remains alarmingly toothless. Ray, the SEC's leading sack artist, has the explosiveness off the edge to quickly improve Chicago's pass rush.

10. Carolina Panthers - Cedric Ogbuehi, OT, Texas A&M: With the selection of Kelvin Benjamin and free agent addition of sure-handed veteran Jericho Cotchery, the Panthers addressed weapons for Cam Newton but failed to address the offensive line protecting him. They won't make the same mistake this year, especially if a gifted prospect like Ogbuehi were to fall into their lap.

11. New York Giants - Shaq Thompson, OLB, Washington: The Giants have been gashed by athletic running backs this season, drawing unwanted attention to a slower-than-ideal back seven. The 6-2, 225 pound Thompson doesn't possess great size but his athleticism and instincts have helped him stand out wherever the Huskies have needed him - including at safety, linebacker and most recently at running back. He projects best to the NFL as a hybrid defender who is just as effective in coverage as coming up in run support.

12. Iowa: The Vikings are set at tackle with Matt Kalil and Phil Loadholt but with the focus on deep drops and power running in Norv Turner's offense, strong play on the interior is also a priority. Scherff, a collegiate tackle with the strong hands and nasty disposition to project well inside too, would be a solid building block for a franchise looking to reinvent itself around Teddy Bridgewater.

13. Houston Texans - Marcus Peters, CB, Washington: With JJ Watt leading the way, the Texans' defense has been impressive even with Jadeveon Clowney struggling with injury and thus far failing to live up to expectations. Peters' combination of length, athleticism, physicality and ball-skills has him in contention to be the first defensive back selected in 2015.

14. San Francisco 49ers - Amari Cooper, WR, Alabama: The agility and first-step acceleration that helped Cooper star as a true freshman is clearly back and he's dominating again, looking like an easy favorite thus far to be the first Biletnikoff Award winner in Alabama's history. The 49ers would be wise to continue adding to their receiving corps with Anquan Boldin aging and talented (but injury prone) Michael Crabtree entering the final year of his rookie contract.

15. New Orleans Saints - Trae Waynes, CB, Michigan State: Despite millions invested in fixing the secondary, the Saints have struggled against the pass this season, surrendering an average of nearly 270 yards per game and twice as many touchdowns (12) as interceptions (six). Some scouts feel that Waynes is a better prospect than his former teammate, Darqueze Dennard, last year's Thorpe Award winner and the Bengals' first round pick.

16. San Diego Chargers - DeVante Parker, WR, Louisville: Keenan Allen is a reliable route-runner and pass-catcher but he doesn't strike fear into the hearts of defenders. Parker missed the first seven games of the year with a broken fifth toe in his left foot, but the 6-3, 209 pounder has starred since, demonstrating the fluidity and ball-skills to project as a No. 1 target.

17. Cleveland Browns (from BUF) - Kevin White, WR, West Virginia: The Browns' defense and running game have been good enough to make them competitive but the lack of a top-flight receiver limits the team's upside. The club is hopeful, of course, that Josh Gordon will re-emerge as a superstar but can't rely on him. No player has boosted his stock more this season than White, a 6-3, 209 pound who climbs the ladder to make contested catches look easy.

18. Cleveland Browns - Andrus Peat, OT, Stanford: The Browns boast one of the league's best left tackles in Joe Thomas but could use reinforcements at right tackle, where Mitchell Schwartz is coming off a disappointing second season. Peat blessed with remarkable balance and agility for a man of his 6-7, 315 pound dimensions and his experience in the conservative Stanford offense could make him especially attractive to the run-heavy Browns.

19. Seattle Seahawks - Devin Funchess, WR/TE, Michigan: It was a terrific defense and the running of Marshawn Lynch that helped Seattle capture its first Super Bowl last year but opponents had to at least be aware of Percy Harvin and Golden Tate, each of whom could create big plays on their own. With both playing elsewhere now, however, Seattle is struggling to pass the ball with any consistency. Whether at receiver or tight end, the 6-5, 235 pound Funchess offers a unique skill-set that could remind GM John Schneider of Jermichael Finley, a formidable seam threat he saw while both worked in Green Bay.

20. Green Bay Packers - Dante Fowler, DE/OLB, Florida: A healthy Clay Matthews and rejuvenated Julius Peppers have improved Green Bay's pass rusher this season but neither has proven reliable enough for the Packers to ignore this year's bounty of edge defenders. Fowler lines up all over the Gators defense and is comfortable rushing (or dropping) from either the two or three point stance.

21. Miami Dolphins - Todd Gurley, RB, Georgia: While Lamar Miller has played well since re-taking over as the top back, GM Dennis Hickey and head coach Joe Philbin didn't show great faith in him when signing Knowshon Moreno prior to the season. Miller and Moreno are each capable NFL starters when healthy but neither possesses Gurley's talent. Whether he plays another snap again this season or not, Gurley's power, balance and surprising speed make him a virtual lock for the first round.

22. Arizona State: Despite a receiving corps that hasn't yet caught a touchdown, the Chiefs continue to play well. Providing more weapons on the perimeter would seem to be a priority for Kansas City in the off-season, however, especially given that this year's crop seems very strong yet again. Strong is the operative word, as aptly-named 6-4, 205 pound junior has the size and physicality to win contested passes.

23. Mississippi State: The development of Bjoern Werner has lessened Indianapolis' need for outside linebackers but inside remains an issue with former Cleveland Brown D'Qwell Jackson struggling to make an impact. McKinney offers a rare package of length, athleticism and versatility that is likely to earn him a top 25 selection.

24. Baltimore Ravens - Melvin Gordon, RB,Wisconsin: Running backs may not hold the same value in today's pass-happy NFL, but difference-makers at any position are worthy of first round consideration. The Ravens have survived with journeymen running backs this season and could see Gordon's agility, acceleration and big play potential as precisely what their offense has been lacking.

25. Florida State: An aging defense needs reinforcements at virtually every level. Williams has the athleticism and instincts to boost Pittsburgh's coverage downfield.

26. Dallas Cowboys - Alvin "Bud" Dupree, DE/OLB, Kentucky: The Cowboys are hopeful that 2014 rookie Demarcus Lawrence will significantly boost their outside pass rush but that won't keep the team from adding reinforcements. Dupree, the SEC's leading active pass rusher, is long, instinctive and closes in a flash.

27. Cincinnati Bengals - La'el Collins, OL, Marshall Newhouse, Will Svitek) entering the final year of their contracts, Cincinnati is likely to be on the lookout for potential replacements. Like Whitworth (who also starred at LSU), Collins doesn't necessarily look the part of an NFL left tackle, sporting a square-ish frame. He's surprisingly effective on the edge, however, and is a mauler in the running game.

28. Detroit Lions - Eddie Goldman, DT, Florida State: With starters Ndamukong Suh and Nick Fairley in the final year of their respective contracts, the Lions will be scouting the defensive tackle class as closely as any team in the league and Goldman is generating plenty of buzz. The 6-4, 320 pound junior is a former top recruit who's enjoyed a breakout campaign back inside this season after starting at end last year for the champs.

29. Philadelphia Eagles - AJ Cann, OG, South Carolina: Injuries along the interior of the o-line have contributed to the Eagles' struggles running the football and in pass protection. Whereas many of the other top guard prospects in 2015 play their collegiate ball at tackle (and therefore will need time to acclimate), Cann's entire career has been spent inside and so, theoretically, he'd be able to contribute sooner.

30. Denver Broncos -Ty Sambrailo, OT, Colorado State: For as dominant as the Broncos have appeared for much of this season, there remain areas of concern. Right tackle, for example, has been an ongoing issue for the Broncos this season.

31. New England Patriots - Danny Shelton, NG, Washington: The Patriots are flying high after an impressive victory over Denver. Holding up to a power running game, however, remains a concern given the absence (and age) of nose guard Vince Wilfork. Shelton's wide frame and tenacity would likely be valued by Bill Belichick and his staff.

32. Arizona Cardinals - Hau'oli Kikaha, DE/OLB, Washington: Everyone expected that an athletic and physical secondary would be the calling card of the NFC West's top team. Few, however, were predicting in the preseason that it would be the secondary based in Arizona. An improved pass rush would make Patrick Peterson, Tyrann Mathieu and the surprising 7-1 Cardinals that much more effective. Kikaha's burst and active hands have helped him register impressive numbers as a pass rusher throughout his career but it is the awareness and fluidity in coverage he's shown this season that has his stock on the rise.
 
Originally posted by jsto60:


Originally posted by Fizzwilly:
Damn, JSTO That clears up everything. Hell wish we had all just let you put everything in complete perspective a lot sooner.
Thanks for the sarcasm fizzy.

Look, I just posted an article. I am not responsible for all the stupid spinning responses by belldoucher and co.

So how about an honest take on my previous comment? If I remember correctly you were one of the few sooner fans here saying Norvell was a nice hire for WR coach. (unlike belldoucher and co who obviously still can't find anything good to say about anything associated with UT....he literally was praising Norvells work in recruiting and with WRs one week and then bashing him the next week when he signs with Texas)
Norvell is a nice guy and a good recruiter. His receivers blocked well down field but his development of receivers as a whole was lacking in my opinion.
 
Originally posted by HornsUp128:
I've been reading tons of mock drafts since December/January... I have yet to see one with DGB in the first round, let alone top 15
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Is that right?hmmm, interesting
 
Originally posted by utisdabomb12:




Bomb now you are trying to move the goalposts just as you did earlier. I provided an article from NFL.com where 3 people project him in the 1st round and now you need more proof.

You still haven't backed up your claim of "top 15". You have serious reading comprehension problems.

"Now you have crawfished and want a "recent" article of DGB being projected in the top 15."

You haven't posted a single source in this thread that said DGB would be drafted in the top 15. Back up your claim Belldouche.


This post was edited on 2/18 11:12 AM by utisdabomb12
This will be bumped until you eat crow buddy.
 
Originally posted by Belldozer1:

Originally posted by utisdabomb12:







Bomb now you are trying to move the goalposts just as you did earlier. I provided an article from NFL.com where 3 people project him in the 1st round and now you need more proof.

You still haven't backed up your claim of "top 15". You have serious reading comprehension problems.

"Now you have crawfished and want a "recent" article of DGB being projected in the top 15."

You haven't posted a single source in this thread that said DGB would be drafted in the top 15. Back up your claim Belldouche.



This post was edited on 2/18 11:12 AM by utisdabomb12
This will be bumped until you eat crow buddy.
Does this crow come with an ice cold beer and BBQ sauce? If not I wouldn't eat it.. lol
 
Originally posted by LonghornSoldier:

Originally posted by Belldozer1:


Originally posted by utisdabomb12:










Bomb now you are trying to move the goalposts just as you did earlier. I provided an article from NFL.com where 3 people project him in the 1st round and now you need more proof.

You still haven't backed up your claim of "top 15". You have serious reading comprehension problems.

"Now you have crawfished and want a "recent" article of DGB being projected in the top 15."

You haven't posted a single source in this thread that said DGB would be drafted in the top 15. Back up your claim Belldouche.




This post was edited on 2/18 11:12 AM by utisdabomb12
This will be bumped until you eat crow buddy.
Does this crow come with an ice cold beer and BBQ sauce? If not I wouldn't eat it.. lol
He may need a beer or 10 to wash this one down LS but that crow is going down his craw
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I dont care where DGB is drafted.....but I was a bit surprised to see that big Malcome Brown was not considered a first rounder.
 
Originally posted by oldhorn2:
I dont care where DGB is drafted.....but I was a bit surprised to see that big Malcome Brown was not considered a first rounder.
I don't know where you saw that. I mean these mock drafts can be all over the place. But the stuff I have seen on NFL network and read and most of the mocks I have seen almost all have DT Malcom Brown as a first round lock. Shot at 10-15 range. But very little doubt he won't slip past mid 20s to end of 1st.




If Mike Mayock is right, Malcom Brown[/B] won't have anything to worry about when it comes to being a first round pick in April's NFL Draft.
Not that the consensus first-team All-American defensive tackle needed Mayock's endorsement to feel good about his draft position, but the NFL Network draft analyst gave Brown one during a conference call on Monday.
Mayock nothing but high marks to give the Bronko Nagurski and Outland Trophy finalist.
"Love his size," Mayock said. "He's about 6-2, 320. He's stout versus the run. He can push the edge, push the pocket."
Some mock drafts have Brown going as early as the 14th overall pick, which is owned by the Miami Dolphins. Mayock feels like Brown will be selected from the 20th pick on with the Detroit Lions at pick No. 23 being the team that's been tied to Brown the most entering the NFL Scouting Combine, which gets started on Tuesday.
Brown was one of 74 underclassmen who declared for this year's draft, a move many expected him to make. Mayock feels it's best in almost every situation for a player to stay in school, but he noted there are exceptions.
Brown is one of those exceptions as far as Mayock is concerned. He labeled Brown as "a first-round guy all day long" and feels the former five-star prospect out Brenham is not just worthy of being a first round choice, but that he'd be a great investment for a franchise.
"Married with two kids. It's just everything kind of fits," Mayock said. "He's a low-risk investment and a really good football player."
Brown and the rest of the defensive tackles will work out at Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis on Sunday.

http://texas.247sports.com/Bolt/Mike-Mayock-Malcom-Brown-is-a-first-round-guy-all-day-long-35682253
 
This belldoucher spin is really too good to be true. He only went on the pimp DGB as a first round pick in order to degrade the words that came out of his mouth where he said he would stay if Norvell had. By arguing like he had no choice as a top pick, therefore he would have left, therefore that new tu coach Norvell sucks.


Then he spends a minute on google and can't find any drafts mocking DGB as early as he claims and he actually admits he is wrong. Then hours later he turns tail after he finds some mock draft from November 3 of 2014. Freaking NOVEMBER 3rd of 2014 that mocked DGB as a first rounder. You know, back before we even knew what underclassmen were even considering declaring. It doesn't even have the order of the teams anywhere near correct. And now he is bragging. This is hilarious.




For your next trick. Can you tell us how OU is going to win the 2016 NC because the waaaaayyyyy to early preseason ranks from December of 2012 said so?



By the way, any mock drafts right now are way too early. The combine needs to happen. And there is a chance DGB could blow it up. The guy is a talent. That is not in question. His character and off field issues and sitting a season out are the issues. So moreso than any other guy, the combine will be big for him. Since its the first look teams get at him in over a year. You should just sit tight a minute and wait for those mocks to come out. But even that won't bolster your bunk point. As it sits, Norvell is a hell of a WR coach. DGB said he'd have stayed if Norvell would have. And that is where it sits today. He might blow up the combine, he might fail. But the combine is way too late to withdraw from the draft.

Why do you have to create some straw man conspiracy? Instead you could just take your player for his word. You know, like you do with gas thieves apologies and women beaters blaming the girl. Or DGB himself when you defended him by taking his word that he 'accidentally' booted a girl down some stairs. Now all the sudden his word means nothing when he said he would have stayed at your beloved school. And you only eschew this because his reason is now at UT. You are transparent and pathetic and lack all reason.
 
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