UT v. aTm: Average Star Ranking of Past Classes and Current Roster

[Vincent Laguardia Gambini]

I have posted this elsewhere. Rivals.com's recruiting database goes back to 2002, so we now have rankings that cover all players who will be on each of our team's respective rosters in 2006 (I don't think either Texas or A&M have any 6 year players).

[# commits / star average]

SIGNING DAY 2002:

Signed LOI
UT----27 / 3.96
aTm----23 / 3.17

Remaining on Roster
UT----11 / 3.73
aTm----7 / 3.00

SIGNING DAY 2003:

Signed LOI
UT----18 / 3.72
aTm----24 / 3.25

Remaining on Roster
UT----15 / 3.73
aTm----15 / 3.20

SIGNING DAY 2004:

Signed LOI
UT----19 / 3.53
aTm----29 / 2.93

Remaining on Roster
UT----18 / 3.50
aTm----17 / 2.88

SIGNING DAY 2005:

Signed LOI
UT----15 / 3.47
aTm----25 / 3.20

Remaining on Roster
UT----13 / 3.53
aTm----22 / 3.27

SIGNING DAY 2006:

Signed LOI
UT----25 / 3.60
aTm----21 / 3.10

Texas has 82 players on campus from those classes with an average star rating of 3.61
aTm has 82 players on campus from those classes with an average star rating of 3.09

Players No Longer on Teams from 2003 – 2005 classes

Texas – Erik Hardeman (4), Steve Richardson (4), Bobby Tatum (4), Michael Houston (3), Jerrell Wilkerson (3), Kyle Thornton (3) [Thornton is back on campus and may re-join team].

Texas has lost a total of six players lost with average ranking of 3.50 (three 4-stars and three 3-stars).

aTm – Jorrie Adams (5), Lamar Mitchell (4), Mike Montgomery (4), DJ Davis (4), Aaron Brown (4), Lee Foliaki (4), DeQawn Mobley (4), Terrence Smith (4), Derrick Brown (3), John Kelly (3), Eric Mayes (3), Tate Pittman (3), Ta Ta Thompson (3), Tory Degrate (3) [he did re-sign today], Gremon Coffman (3), Quincy Driver (3), Charlie Jefferson (2), Quentin Gardner (2), Mark Young (2), Alton Boudreaux (2), Kedric Goins (2), Renuel Green (2), Kevin Ferguson (2).

aTm has lost a total of twenty-three players with an average star ranking of 3.09.

To assess what talent is left on campus at this point relative to the classes’ initial star ranking, you have to take out the JUCO’s who complete their eligibility – I am looking at what talent is left on campus from past recruiting classes, to do that you have to take out JUCO’s who finished their eligibility – I realize Foliaki (4), Mobley (4), Montgomery (4), and Green (2) completed their eligibility and would not be classified as attrition.

Miscellaneous notes:

Texas has 2 3-stars on the team who did not sign LOI's: Marcus Griffin and Luke Tiemann. I think Marcus now is on scholarship. Punter/kickoff specialist Greg Johnson, who was a 2-star when he signed with Vandy in 2002, also has a scholarship.

A&M has Michael Bennett, a 2-star when he originally signed with La Tech in 2004.

Also note some of the Rivals team ranking summaries are off. For instance our 2002 class shows 28 recruits at a 3.89 average. We signed 27 that year with an average of 3.96. For some reason a baseball player who certainly did not have a football player (Wes Bankston) shows up on the page. His 2-star ranking brings us down.

 

[HKHorn]

Besides a few players here and there, the Aggies recruiting classes are a who's who of who's that.

 

[bear19]

houstonearler-- great summary.

of course aggy still believe they have outrecruited us the last 3 years [not counting this year].
will buy you a beer if you can post your comparison on texaggy.

 

[Kronic22]

Welcome to the bandwagon.

We already knew this.

 

[kebonics]

that sums up what we already knew with the actual number. Great work!

 

[royalewithcheese]

Nice work earler, nice work indeed.

Although after the last aggsy "tidbits" you can add these names to the aggsy attrition list for whatever reasons:

TE Quinlan Germany
TE Taylor Schuster
RB Jay Lucas

 

[PanhandleHorn]

Thanks for posting the numbers. We all knew aggie attrition was high. But 23 players in three years? That's just re-damn-diculous. It seems to me that if recruits knew these numbers, it would make them turn elsewhere.

 

[Vincent Laguardia Gambini]

Originally posted by royalewithcheese:
Nice work earler, nice work indeed.

Although after the last aggsy "tidbits" you can add these names to the aggsy attrition list for whatever reasons:

TE Quinlan Germany
TE Taylor Schuster
RB Jay Lucas

Germany and Schuster were class of 2002 (I think), so while they had eligibility left because they redshirted, I did not include them as attrition. But there numbers are not reflected in the left on campus category. Lucas signed in 2004, I believe after signing day. I did not include him because he was not in their initial rankings (like Michael Bennett for them and Marcus Griffin or Greg Johnson for us). My point was to compare talent expected to be on campus for 2006 versus perceived expectations from past recruiting class rankings.

A&M has had some classes ranked pretty decently (we did beat them in 2004 -- that class was bad at the time and horrible looking back with attrition), but if you look at their average star ranking for the classes the last 5 years, as a composite they should probably be ranked around 25 in the nation. We would be top 5, even though this is the first year since 2002 we landed a top-5 class.

 

[thirtyandzero]

Do the same for OU.

 

[chico597]

Earler...Great job. Really brings home cost of JUCO route. Wonder how same analysis would look for blow u?