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Another reason to despise the playoff committee

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Look just like I thought the favorites all won Saturday. But here's the catch. I've said all along about how this committee is dominated by the Big X and the SEC. And that the most influential members Barry Alvarez of WI, and Jeff Long, of AR, are a couple of weasels. So what happens I thought that MSU would end up fourth and everything else in the top 4 would stay the same.

Wrong
They moved MSU to number three and Oklahoma down to number 4. What does this mean? Well it means its number two vs number three Bama vs MSU. What it really means is with this matchup is that it's GUARANTEED that someone from the SEC out Big X will be in the title game giving the committee the best possible chance to gloat about how they were right all along. This was not an accident with this bunch.

And since I'm typing from a tablet I would like someone to read the article about how the Big X slowed an amendment by the Big XII regarding conf championship deregulation. Read it and remind yourself why our chairman Bob Bowlsby is such a wimp. As I've said before our lone rep is TT ad Kirby Holcutt and he's a political lightweight.

I'm also po'd about some of our bowl match ups. Trying to understand these tie breakers as to who goes to which bowls is more confusing than trying to understand how to pass the test to sell insurance. And OSU was clearly the worst of the November 4. They were 10-0 ranked sixth and had both games at home. They were beaten like a red headed step child in both games. Look I remember how Baylor and Oklahoma finished. But imo, TCU got the raw end of the deal. They should be in NO to play Ole Miss, Baylor should be in SA, and OSU should be in Orlando. And like everyone else I know that when it became apparent that TT was going to the Houston Bowl the SEC arranged for the worst possible matchup for TT. Ditto for KSU/AR. Now for me this is the most personal. One because of Jeff Long. The second is because after what Bret Bielema said about hs fb and coaches in TX I hope the sob never wins another game.

Finally I remember when the SB would have never taken a matchup like they have with Ole Miss/OSU this year.
 
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Bowlsby makes $1.8 million a year. For what? To be a whipping boy for the other conferences? If Stanford had beaten Northwestern in the first game of the year, which conference would've been left out this year? We need a commissioner with a spine.
 
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Look just like I thought the favorites all won yesterday. But here's the catch. I've said all of about how this committee is dominated by the Big X and the SEC. And that the most influential members Barry Alvarez, WI, and Jeff Long, AR, are a couple of weasels. So what happens I thought that MSU would end up fourth and everything else among the top 4 would stay the same.

Wrong
They moved MSU to number three and Oklahoma down to number 4. What does this mean? Well to me what it means is number two vs number three Bama vs MSU. What this means is with this matchup it's GUARANTEED that someone from the SEC out Big X will be in the title game giving the committee the best possible chance to gloat about how they were right all along. This was not an accident with this bunch.

And since I'm typing from a tablet I would like someone to read the article about how the Big X slowed an amendment by the Big XII regarding conf championship deregulation. Read it and remind yourself why our chairma Bob Bowlsby is such a wimp.


It also means that a BigXII and ACC team will be in the NC game.

If they did it the other way, would you be crying if it was ain't SEC vs B1G NC game?


Simply put, MSU probably deserved to be #2 based on their resume and Bama #3. Bama passed the eye test and the dynasty test and was put at 2.

OU is where they belong, based on resume. They easily had the worst loss and played no one while other teams went out and won. I hate the BigXII no CC game garbage. They are playing pretty hot right now, but that matters not as the month wait cools teams.
Who cares? Win and move on.
 
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It also means that a BigXII and ACC team will be in the NC game.

If they did it the other way, would you be crying if it was ain't SEC vs B1G NC game?


Simply put, MSU probably deserved to be #2 based on their resume and Bama #3. Bama passed the eye test and the dynasty test and was put at 2.

OU is where they belong, based on resume. They easily had the worst loss and played no one while other teams went out and won. I hate the BigXII no CC game garbage. They are playing pretty hot right now, but that matters not as the month wait cools teams.
Who cares? Win and move on.

I have to disagree with you on OK and MSU. Oklahoma has a better resume and their best wins came at the right time, actually a prefect time. Now MSU had three quality wins as well but their loss was worse than Oklahoma's, they lost to a three win NB team.
 
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Are we really conspiracy theorizing about the ranking of the #3 and #4 teams?
 
Are we really conspiracy theorizing about the ranking of the #3 and #4 teams?

It is not a conspiracy theory. This committee answers to no one. They vote behind closed doors. But look up the committee and see how much it is dominated by people from the Big X and the SEC.

Conspiracy theory? No, but like my 89 year old daddy likes to say now if "if its not about the money, it's about the money". And with the New Years Six set up the way it is one of the conference is going to get left out of the playoffs, this year it was the Pac XII. But it also means that one of the P5 conferences is big to get three teams in the NYS. Ands as long as Alvarez and Long dominate the committee the Big X or the SEC are going to get that third spot.
 
Simply put, MSU probably deserved to be #2 based on their resume and Bama #3. Bama passed the eye test and the dynasty test and was put at 2.
While I don't disagree with most of what you say, my big beef is the conflicting pronouncements put out by the committee. "Eye Test". "Game Control." Freaking Michigan State was given a gift by Michigan. A gift! Yes, MSU won fair and square, but that was a freaking gift! Eye Test and Game Control? Hah. The committee would be better off keeping its pie hole shut.
 
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Seriously, if I'm blOwU fan I'm extremely happy, you have two teams at 2 and 3 that were terrible match ups for you. You are facing the one team that you have the best chance of beating. Don't be surprised to see blOwU vs Bama or BlOwU vs MSU in the title game. If there is one team that the gooners can beat it's Clemson.
 
I have to disagree with you on OK and MSU. Oklahoma has a better resume and their best wins came at the right time, actually a prefect time. Now MSU had three quality wins as well but their loss was worse than Oklahoma's, they lost to a three win NB team.

Uh... Nebraska has 5 wins. OU looked thoroughly outplayed against us, while Nebraska/MSU came down to the wire and a blown call.
 
Seriously, if I'm blOwU fan I'm extremely happy, you have two teams at 2 and 3 that were terrible match ups for you. You are facing the one team that you have the best chance of beating. Don't be surprised to see blOwU vs Bama or BlOwU vs MSU in the title game. If there is one team that the gooners can beat it's Clemson.
I actually thought OU would have a better chance with Bama. Can't stop Henry but slow him down and try to outscore them. That SECCG was pretty telling in my opinion. Auburn is not good imo.
 
I actually thought OU would have a better chance with Bama. Can't stop Henry but slow him down and try to outscore them. That SECCG was pretty telling in my opinion. Auburn is not good imo.

blOwU is terrible against the run, Bama is great at running the ball, you would get raped. They keep the ball away from your offense and end most drives with a score.
 
I have to disagree with you on OK and MSU. Oklahoma has a better resume and their best wins came at the right time, actually a prefect time. Now MSU had three quality wins as well but their loss was worse than Oklahoma's, they lost to a three win NB team.
That's right Cali and when Big Game Bob rat-a-tat-tat's that Clemson and Bama ass then everyone will know the committee got it right.
 
blOwU is terrible against the run, Bama is great at running the ball, you would get raped. They keep the ball away from your offense and end most drives with a score.
I never said OU would shut down Bama's run game I said try to slow it down and then spread Bama out. Try to score quick and take them out of their comfort zone. Auburn is a crappy team and their offense in nowhere near what OU's is and the SECCCG was a low scoring game. I think Clemson's running/throwing qb presents much more issues for OU
 
If Oklahoma does win, it will be the second year in a row that a #4 seed has won it all, and will likely open a debate to expand the playoffs.
 
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If Oklahoma does win, it will be the second year in a row that a #4 seed has won it all, and will likely open a debate to expand the playoffs.
Wasatch to expound more on my Alabama comments. I certainly understand your thoughts on why Alabama could beat OU and Henry is an absolute beast but they would rather not have to throw much to beat you. Here are some OU/Auburn stats that I looked up for comparision:

Total offense:
OU-10 AU-97

Total Defense:
OU-30 AU-85

Rush Defense:
OU- 18
AU-43

It just seems to me that OU could spread Bama out and get them on their heels much like Henry could do to OU. The trick obviously would be to score quick and make Bama have to throw imo
 
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I think the committee got it right, except MSU should be the two seed. Their resume is better than both OU and Alabama. Here's how I see it. If you lose to a 5-7 team (like OU and MSU did), or you lose at home to a solid but certainly not elite team (like we did), you shouldn't be complaining about seeding. You should just be happy that you're one of the 4 teams that has a shot at the national title.
 
There does appear to be a bias against the big 12 that's fairly obvious. The big 12 brings it on themselves on some level though.

-they moved OU as to not give them a defacto home game in Dallas. They'll deny it and you can disagree with the reasoning but that's why it was done.

-The big 12 has shown no interest in expanding even when there were attractive options out there. Therefore they still don't have a championship game when everyone else does. That is hurting them in the committees eyes.

- Texas and OU are the only teams in the conference that makes an effort to schedule quality non con oppenets. That kills Baylor, TCU, etc

Those things don't help the big 12's argument.
 
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There does appear to be a bias against the big 12 that's fairly obvious. The big 12 brings it on themselves on some level though.

-they moved OU as to not give them a defacto home game in Dallas. They'll deny it and you can disagree with the reasoning but that's why it was done.

-The big 12 has shown no interest in expanding even when there were attractive options out there. Therefore they still don't have a championship game when everyone else does. That is hurting them in the committees eyes.

- Texas and OU are the only teams in the conference that makes an effort to schedule quality non con oppenets. That kills Baylor, TCU, etc

Those things don't help the big 12's argument.
I used to despise the easy road Ohio State had in getting into a BCS game when the Big 10 didn't have a CCG. As a Sooner I feel very lucky my team got in and I am a proponent of having a CCG. I honestly thought the Big 12 would probably not get in the playoffs without one. Obviously under the right scenario the Big 12 can but it's difficult.
 
Right now to the big 12 isn't a 10 team conference. It's really a 9 team conference. I'm not sure KU is any better than those cupcakes the SEC played a couple of weeks ago
 
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That's right Cali and when Big Game Bob rat-a-tat-tat's that Clemson and Bama ass then everyone will know the committee got it right.

Let me say this to you. Right now, I think Oklahoma is the best of the four teams. But considering the rankings going into last Saturday and the way the games turned out Oklahoma should have stayed at number three and get ready for Bama. It has the makings of a classic matchup. But mostly MSU didn't do anything on Saturday to justify them jumping over Oklahoma.
 
There does appear to be a bias against the big 12 that's fairly obvious. The big 12 brings it on themselves on some level though.

-they moved OU as to not give them a defacto home game in Dallas. They'll deny it and you can disagree with the reasoning but that's why it was done.

-The big 12 has shown no interest in expanding even when there were attractive options out there. Therefore they still don't have a championship game when everyone else does. That is hurting them in the committees eyes.

- Texas and OU are the only teams in the conference that makes an effort to schedule quality non con oppenets. That kills Baylor, TCU, etc

Those things don't help the big 12's argument.
You forget that the Big 10 plays 9 conference games. That is one extra Power 5 game. SEC doesn't. ACC doesn't. Big 10 doesn't. We see how biased the committee is against the Big 12.
 
I used to despise the easy road Ohio State had in getting into a BCS game when the Big 10 didn't have a CCG. As a Sooner I feel very lucky my team got in and I am a proponent of having a CCG. I honestly thought the Big 12 would probably not get in the playoffs without one. Obviously under the right scenario the Big 12 can but it's difficult.

Like I said above if ND had beaten Stanford last week your team would have been left out. And I'm not saying this through burnt orange glasses. You have much better team than ND, and with the season being over all ND has are a couple of quality losses. This committee makes a big deal out of this. And during the season guess who benefitted most from this MS and WI. MS jumped to number 22 during an off week. When they did JL defended his decision saying they were the best three loss team in the country. Do you realize how worthless that is?

I didn't mean to digress. Dyk that former ND coach Tyrone Willingham is on the committee? These people are so biased towards their conferences, vote in private, I truly believe that he would not have recused himself, and voted for ND. But ND lost and justice won in the end.
 
Let me say this to you. Right now, I think Oklahoma is the best of the four teams. But considering the rankings going into last Saturday and the way the games turned out Oklahoma should have stayed at number three and get ready for Bama. It has the makings of a classic matchup. But mostly MSU didn't do anything on Saturday to justify them jumping over Oklahoma.
I felt better about a Bama matchup. Clemson may present different issues for OU. A lot can happen in a month. I would rather teams play right away after the regular season ends.
 
At the time we only had 1 win when we beat OU.

This is a long issue with lots of stories that go with it. When MSU lost to NB, they were ranked 7th by the pc. TCU was number eight and they lost that same day to OSU. But OSU was ranked 12th by the pc. But because NB and MSU are Big X teams, and Tom Osborne was a hc there and Barry Alvarez played there MSU didn't drop as far as TCU did. Yes TCU lost by 20 but the pc committee obviously didn't watch the game. We're the Big XII they're not going to pay attention to us.
 
Well once again BB proposed an amendment that said the Big XII wanted to add two more teams to the Big XII but Big X commissioner Jim Delaney blocked it because he didn't feel that the Big XII would not have brought teams worthy of being P5 schools.
 
One last thing. There are four open slots on the pc that need to be filled next spring.

As I've said before the Big XII only had one rep and also the ACC only has one rep. One of theirs should get one of the open slots.

Here's who I propose to be the Big XII rep. He is a true political animal, someone so arrogant, and somewhat ruthless to the point that he can make Alvarez and Long's testes shrink to the size of a couple of peanuts. The drawback could the Big XII trust him that he will look out for all of them and not just his former school? That's a fair question.

The man's name is Deloss Dodds.
 
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One last thing. There are four open slots on the pc that need to be filled next spring.

As I've said before the Big XII only had one rep and also the ACC only has one rep. One of theirs should get one of the open slots.

Here's who I propose to be the Big XII rep. He is a true political animal, someone so arrogant, and somewhat ruthless to the point that he can make Alvarez and Long's testes shrink to the size of a couple of peanuts. The drawback could the Big XII trust him that he will look out for all of them and not just his former school? That's a fair question.

The man's name is Deloss Dodds.
Switzer?
 
One last thing. There are four open slots on the pc that need to be filled next spring.

As I've said before the Big XII only had one rep and also the ACC only has one rep. One of theirs should get one of the open slots.

Here's who I propose to be the Big XII rep. He is a true political animal, someone so arrogant, and somewhat ruthless to the point that he can make Alvarez and Long's testes shrink to the size of a couple of peanuts. The drawback could the Big XII trust him that he will look out for all of them and not just his former school? That's a fair question.

The man's name is Deloss Dodds.
Switzer?
 

I doubt, seriously doubt that Barry Switzer pays attention to anyone besides the Big XII. He probably didn't find out till last week that Clemson was undefeated and ranked number one. And Barry Switzer was always something of a loner among his peers when he was coaching.
 
I didn't mean to digress. Dyk that former ND coach Tyrone Willingham is on the committee? These people are so biased towards their conferences, vote in private, I truly believe that he would not have recused himself, and voted for ND. But ND lost and justice won in the end.

Willingham coached both Stanford and Notre Dame, burning bridges with the latter. I'm sure he was pulling for Stanford in that game, and even if Notre Dame had won, he more likely would've stuck it to them like Briles did to us in 2008. But I agree with your point that an 11-1 Irish squad would've left an 11-1 OU on the outside.
 
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