'Cheating’ Saban is most overrated coach

[LongfellowDrew]

In a recent "Candid Coaches" installment from CBS Sports, one coach voted for Saban as the sport's most overrated coach. He also threw accusations of cheating at the Alabama coach.

"If you had the No. 1 recruiting class in the country every year [you'd win like Nick Saban]. He shows up at every single game with a better roster than the teams he 's playing. … If you count cheating and getting the best players in the country as part of running a program, he's the best in the country. It's like saying an NFL coach is the best coach in the league if he gets 25 first-round picks every year."

 

[ASURAM2010]

In a recent "Candid Coaches" installment from CBS Sports, one coach voted for Saban as the sport's most overrated coach. He also threw accusations of cheating at the Alabama coach.

"If you had the No. 1 recruiting class in the country every year [you'd win like Nick Saban]. He shows up at every single game with a better roster than the teams he 's playing. … If you count cheating and getting the best players in the country as part of running a program, he's the best in the country. It's like saying an NFL coach is the best coach in the league if he gets 25 first-round picks every year."

Really would have liked the guy who made that quote have some balls and put his name on the line. What would be even better, is if he was on Alabama's schedule to watch Saban put a C note up on him.

 

[LongfellowDrew]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...ated-and-underrated-college-football-coaches/

Explain yourselves (overrated)

• "We're going to see in the next three years [what happens with Jimbo Fisher at Texas A&M]. That disaster last year at Florida State, he prides himself on being just like Nick Saban. He only worked for him for a couple of years. He never has the organizational skills. He flies by the seat [of his pants]. It looks like it's organized and the words he uses are the same, but if you talk to people who work in his office, the desk is sloppy, the rooms are sloppy."

• "If you had the No. 1 recruiting class in the country every year [you'd win like Nick Saban]. He shows up at every single game with a better roster than the teams he 's playing. … If you count cheating and getting the best players in the country as part of running a program, he's the best in the country. It's like saying an NFL coach is the best coach in the league if he gets 25 first-round picks every year."

• "I like Urban [Meyer], but there have been some characters that played for him that I thought should have not allowed."

 

[clob94]

Sooooo it sounds like this dude worked for jimbo and saban at some point, or was at least on the staff at the same time. Time to break out the Google searches.....

He's obviously not on saban's staff anymore..... Who's throwing out the first name? I have an idea...

https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...ated-and-underrated-college-football-coaches/

Explain yourselves (overrated)

• "We're going to see in the next three years [what happens with Jimbo Fisher at Texas A&M]. That disaster last year at Florida State, he prides himself on being just like Nick Saban. He only worked for him for a couple of years. He never has the organizational skills. He flies by the seat [of his pants]. It looks like it's organized and the words he uses are the same, but if you talk to people who work in his office, the desk is sloppy, the rooms are sloppy."

• "If you had the No. 1 recruiting class in the country every year [you'd win like Nick Saban]. He shows up at every single game with a better roster than the teams he 's playing. … If you count cheating and getting the best players in the country as part of running a program, he's the best in the country. It's like saying an NFL coach is the best coach in the league if he gets 25 first-round picks every year."

• "I like Urban [Meyer], but there have been some characters that played for him that I thought should have not allowed."

 

[TheTruthof2018]

People hate on Saban but he is like a General.

He has everything taken care of including what to do if let's say his kicker gets knocked out.

Don't hate Saban just prepare better as coaches.
Very simple but underappreciated.

 

[RoboCocks21]

Well he couldn't handle it in the NFL

 

[mm42]

The coach that thinks Saban is over rated probably hates rich people and skinny women. Saban doesn't deserve all the best players, it's not fair. He cheats. Blah-blah- blah.

 

[ryan_sublett]

Saban probably does cheat... so does everyone else. It’s just a matter of what level you are cheating at and if you have been caught.

Most overrated coach? Easily kirk Ferentz

 

[JoeAg]

Bottom line, Saban has been able to keep a lot of these great players around and sit behind others while they physically mature and may only play one year and without the dynamic QBs everyone else has needed to win Championships. Love him or hate him, I don't know how anyone can deny his consistent greatness with multiple coordinators too.

 

[Schein31]

Sounds like sour grapes

 

[Scholz]

You know what a skinny woman's good for? Not a damn thing.

 

[clob94]

You know what a skinny woman's good for? Not a damn thing.

Cheap date?

 

[BigBrotherAgs]

In a recent "Candid Coaches" installment from CBS Sports, one coach voted for Saban as the sport's most overrated coach. He also threw accusations of cheating at the Alabama coach.

"If you had the No. 1 recruiting class in the country every year [you'd win like Nick Saban]. He shows up at every single game with a better roster than the teams he 's playing. … If you count cheating and getting the best players in the country as part of running a program, he's the best in the country. It's like saying an NFL coach is the best coach in the league if he gets 25 first-round picks every year."

I'm not trying to be a prick, but if this is true about having more talent than everyone, shouldn't Texas dominate the Big 12 every year? You and Oklahoma should run away with it every year. The talent gap is HUGE!! None of the other schools have better players. Of course Saban gets a lot of great talent, but you have to guide the ship.

 

[oldschoolcat]

You know what a skinny woman's good for? Not a damn thing.

Okay...that's two now.

 

[clob94]

Give me the headset on Saturday and bama's squad and I win 11 games minimum.

Now could I build that talented a roster at bama? Nope. And that's why saban gets the big bucks.

I'm not trying to be a prick, but if this is true about having more talent than everyone, shouldn't Texas dominate the Big 12 every year? You and Oklahoma should run away with it every year. The talent gap is HUGE!! None of the other schools have better players. Of course Saban gets a lot of great talent, but you have to guide the ship.

 

[Metcalf #2]

And that's why Saban's players get the big bucks.

Fixed

 

[outhereincali]

Saban probably does cheat... so does everyone else. It’s just a matter of what level you are cheating at and if you have been caught.

Most overrated coach? Easily kirk Ferentz

I don't know have you already forgotten the beat down that his iowa team put on tOSU last year? Because it was in November it knocked the buckeyes out of the playoffs.

Overrated? For me it's every LSU coach since Saban left.

 

[Metcalf #2]

I don't know have you already forgotten the beat down that his iowa team put on tOSU last year? Because it was in November it knocked the buckeyes out of the playoffs.

Overrated? For me it's every LSU coach since Saban left.

Oh good god. Les Miles. I never understood that hire, and the hype that suddenly grew around him just because he was the coach at LSU.

Here you have a guy that was completely owned by Mack Brown, who at the time was mostly known for being owned by Stoops. Everybody made fun of Brown for that, even LSU fans, yet they cheered the arrival of Miles. That's right, they loved the guy who never could beat the guy they thought was a joke. Lol.

I always said OSU only got better after he left.

 

[ryan_sublett]

I don't know have you already forgotten the beat down that his iowa team put on tOSU last year? Because it was in November it knocked the buckeyes out of the playoffs.

Overrated? For me it's every LSU coach since Saban left.

He’s had some good seasons and some big wins, but overall he’s pretty mediocre for all the attention he’s gotten from the NFL and such

155-118, 7-8 in bowl games, 2 conference championships in 18 seasons.

 

[outhereincali]

Oh good god. Les Miles. I never understood that hire, and the hype that suddenly grew around him just because he was the coach at LSU.

Here you have a guy that was completely owned by Mack Brown, who at the time was mostly known for being owned by Stoops. Everybody made fun of Brown for that, even LSU fans, yet they cheered the arrival of Miles. That's right, they loved the guy who never could beat the guy they thought was a joke. Lol.

I always said OSU only got better after he left.

That's right. They replaced him with Mike Gundy. Say what you want about him at least he won a Big XII title and a Fiesta Bowl as well.

 

[12375CAT]

Wish Horns vs Red Elephants @ the $EC vs B12 challenge. Prove once & for all we are the vastly superior conference

 

[ryan_sublett]

That's right. They replaced him with Mike Gundy. Say what you want about him at least he won a Big XII title and a Fiesta Bowl as well.

Yeah I don’t think Gundy gets the credit he deserves as a coach. He’s turned OSU in to a consistent top 25 program. 10 wins or more 5 of the last 7 seasons

 

[JonBinge]

You know what a skinny woman's good for? Not a damn thing.

Tom Hanks on Black Jeopardy lol.

 

[JHop6714]

Alabama has certainly built up a buffer that makes it increasingly hard for others to match. Similar to Microsoft's dominance of the industry in the 90's. But, look...what happens in the National Championship game? Your star quarterback goes out. That should be it, right? Wrong. Freshman comes in and doesn't miss a beat. Alabama wins it all. Again. THAT requires sound coaching. Great development. Great gameplan. Confidence. Inspiration. All of it. When we put a freshman in against Alabama in the 2010 National Championship game, we managed alright but we looked desperate and floundering. Gilbert didn't come in with confidence and execute a sound game plan. Most teams would show themselves just like Texas did. But not Saban's squad. That, to me, is why he isn't overrated, and why, as a college football fan, I have to just sit back and wait for him to retire.

 

[UT1997]

Other than Urban Meyer, has another prominent SEC coach done much outside the SEC? Gene Chizik, Les Miles, Tommy Tuberville, Nick Saban, Steve Spurrier all were at best mediocre or unimpressive in the NFL or other conferences where you don't get to make your own rules. Mark Richt might fare better.

 

[mm42]

Other than Urban Meyer, has another prominent SEC coach done much outside the SEC? Gene Chizik, Les Miles, Tommy Tuberville, Nick Saban, Steve Spurrier all were at best mediocre or unimpressive in the NFL or other conferences where you don't get to make your own rules. Mark Richt might fare better.

James Franklin is looking good at Penn State. Mark Right at Miami. And that is about it recently. But few leave because they want to leave, due to $. Lane Kiffin left for USC. Urban Meyer left Florida, but that had a lot more to do with criminality than football.

 

[BringBackRoyal]

Other than Urban Meyer, has another prominent SEC coach done much outside the SEC? Gene Chizik, Les Miles, Tommy Tuberville, Nick Saban, Steve Spurrier all were at best mediocre or unimpressive in the NFL or other conferences where you don't get to make your own rules. Mark Richt might fare better.

Spurrier wasn't at Duke long, but he's responsible for their only conference championship since Spurrier himself was a junior in high school.