Conference Re-alignment

[2300 Nueces]

Dr. Strength,

UT will have to do something. Our problem currently is our happiness with the current arrangement and the unhappiness of our partners. OU is unhappy that there is an awkward path to the championship and that winning the Big 12 is not a guarantee to the playoff. I would also add that there is no conference network while there is the LHN. This really chaps our conference brethren.

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/paul-finebaum-oklahoma-desperate-get-big-12/

UT is not going to make a move. We have no reason to make a move. OU is going to make a move ,and when they do, the conference collapses. OU and OSU are going as a package to the B1G or SEC. I think it will be the B1G but I could be wrong. When this happens, the Big 12 will not be viable. WVU will move to ACC. This leaves the Texas schools, Kansas schools, and ISU. At this point the SEC snaps up whoever is left, probably the Kansas schools, but they will try to pick off the Texas schools first but will not succeed. Texas will not join the SEC. There are too many differences in the character of the schools. Remember the goal is the best regional path with quality to 16 teams.

At this point, we are left with a conference of 5 teams, the Texas schools and ISU. Hopefully you can see what happens next. Texas will do what it needs to do to retain one of the final seats at the 64 team table. It just so happens that the PAC needs 4 teams to get to 16, hence Texas, Tech, TCU, and BU will move to the PAC. I will mention that this is what we wanted to do a long time ago but A&M and OU vetoed because their schools do not match the characters of the PAC schools,Texas does. I'm not going to venture into the political stuff but it is what it is.

The PAC is not going to collapse before the Big 12 does. How many teams have left the PAC 12? How many have been added? How many teams have left the Big 12? How many have been added? See my point. The SWC and now the Big 12 are unstable and will collapse and we have ourselves to blame, meaning our own members.

 

[JHop6714]

I just think the Big XII has the same amount of power to strengthen as PAC does.

 

[outhereincali]

All of your never ending talk about conference realignment. Doesn't your balloon ever land?

 

[GuaranteedFresh!]

As long as Texas plays football I don't give a chit what conference we are a part of...if any.
Gun to my head, I'd choose B1G. It has the name brands, edu $$$ , and I don't have to suffer through 10pm kickoffs.

 

[Scholz]

OU is unhappy that there is an awkward path to the championship and that winning the Big 12 is not a guarantee to the playoff.

Will never understand this gripe. They've made it to the playoffs twice with 1 loss (lost to us in 2015 and ISU in 2017 as well as made the BCS national title games in 2003 and 2008 with 1 loss as well as made the following BCS bowls with 2 losses: Fiesta in 2006, Fiesta in 2007, Fiesta in 2010, Sugar in 2013 and Sugar in 2016). The Big XII has never hindered their post season aspirations. Not once.

 

[2300 Nueces]

Will never understand this gripe. They've made it to the playoffs twice with 1 loss (lost to us in 2015 and ISU in 2017 as well as made the BCS national title games in 2003 and 2008 with 1 loss as well as made the following BCS bowls with 2 losses: Fiesta in 2006, Fiesta in 2007, Fiesta in 2010, Sugar in 2013 and Sugar in 2016). The Big XII has never hindered their post season aspirations. Not once.

Ya, it's the playing the same team twice issue. The main issue is the LHN. It was the same with aggy and everyone else.

I just think the Big XII has the same amount of power to strengthen as PAC does.

PAC has a league network and Big 12 does not.

 

[Scholz]

Ya, it's the playing the same team twice issue.

I agree that's a money grab. But their fat queen President Boren and Bowlsby (dumb and dumber) are the braintrust to blame for having a championship game in a round robin format.

The main issue is the LHN. It was the same with aggy and everyone else.

That's fine although it hasn't really created such a huge advantage for us. But just say that. But they shouldn't claim the Big XII is weak and makes it hard to get to where they want. It's simply false. Beyond false. So sick of liars.

 

[2300 Nueces]

All of your never ending talk about conference realignment. Doesn't your balloon ever land?

Sorry if you don't like it.... Go read something else. I hear there are a lot of men seeking men in Cali. Maybe go check craigslist.

 

[outhereincali]

Sorry if you don't like it.... Go read something else. I hear there is a lot of men seeking men in Cali. Maybe go check craigslist.

Now that is a truly childish response.

 

[2300 Nueces]

Now that is a truly childish response.

Thank You and yours was very smart ass.

 

[JHop6714]

Ya, it's the playing the same team twice issue. The main issue is the LHN. It was the same with aggy and everyone else.



PAC has a league network and Big 12 does not.

The PAC network is doing very poorly

 

[speedstrength]

We're Texas, We can choose our landing spot should should the Big 12 fall off. We are a top tier academic school and when the medical school is up and running at full speed we will rise even further in the rankings. We are highly competitive in the big three sports and we bring eyeballs to TV sets. That's why we were able to get a 295 million dollar contract from ESPN. In 2025 when the GOR ends we will still have 6 years and approximately 88 million dollars left on the contract. ESPN hired some good lawyers and protected their investment through several clauses in the contract. Going to the PAC 12 in 2026 would not be impossible but some special accommodations would have to be made for the LHN. Anyway keep and eye on 5G cellular data systems and cord cutting. Those two things will be a big players by the time 2026 rolls around and that could make ESPN open to some type of modification of the contract.

 

[cwillfromdatx]

Ya, it's the playing the same team twice issue. The main issue is the LHN. It was the same with aggy and everyone else.



PAC has a league network and Big 12 does not.

The Pac network suck as those schools make less than ours and we don't even have a conference network. That should tell you that no one will be running towards their direction. I bet the AZ schools would be running to our if they don't get a pay raise and watching the likes of Kansas State making way more money. Also, the AZ schools would love to tap into the Texas recruiting market.

 

[outhereincali]

I really don't understand all this never ending conference realignment talk. We're TX and we can go wherever we want, I'd like the little X, I like the Pac XII, etc... And yes we have LHN, and it's made our school a lot of money.

Just one thing

How's that been working for us on the field of play? In one way it's somewhat similar to the contract between NBC and ND fb. I'm sure ND makes a solid 10 figure amount every year. But how's that been working out for them in the fb field for the last 20 years? Not very good if you haven't been paying attention.

And in the little ten we'd get our butt kicked. If coach Herman takes us to the top like I think he will.... maybe in a couple of years. We have a new ad .And in men's hoops it's really either you do or you don't time for Shaka Smart.

And the travel were talking about a minimum 1500 to 4500 round to any little ten or Pac XII town.

I've said right now let's concentrate on the fb field and bb court.

HookemHorns

 

[2300 Nueces]

https://newsok.com/article/5603855/big-12-has-the-content-that-broadcasters-covet

A lot is going to change in the middle of the next decade unless OU can figure a way out of it's current commitments which does not look likely. That is 6 1/2 years from now, a long time. I was just throwing out what the puzzle pieces look like to me. I am probably wrong. I have been wrong before. Sorry for the kerfuffle. I won't do it anymore. I know change can be difficult to accept.

 

[speedstrength]

Read the News OK article. I don't see huge contracts coming in the mid 2020s from traditional tv compaines. A few things were driving the economics of college football and conference realignment that will be significantly different. The first was the rise of the DVR which made advertising on scripted TV much less effective and therefore much less valuable. Sports were really the only thing that wasn't really affected by DVRs so lots of advertising dollars were going into live sports which made content very valuable. Content from major media markets become even more valuable. There is a reason the B1G added to non powerhouse programs in Maryland and Rutgers. It gave them content in DC, Philly and NYC markets. Those two programs are way more valuable than Nebraska or Minnesota.

The other thing was the cable bundle model which gave content providers most of their fees from people who didn't watch the actual programming. In order to keep subscribers in this changing environment cable companies are going to have to unbundle their content. The big driver is going to be 5g and other mobile broadband technologies which will make over the top services easier to access thereby putting more pressure on the cable bundle model. IF that does happen you will have 60-70 million cable subscribers but ESPN isn't getting 8 bucks from every one of those people anymore.

The biggest unkown is Netflix and Amazon. Both companies are sitting on a boatload of cash and both are looking to add subscribers. If they decide to play some unreal contracts could happen. The question is how many new subscribers does Iowa State Baylor game add to the streaming companies.