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StrangerHorn

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Some words to the wise. Shooting Advice from various Concealed Carry Instructors. If you own a gun, you will appreciate this. If not, you should get one and learn how to use it:

A: Guns have only two enemies: rust and politicians.

B: Its always better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

C: Cops carry guns to protect themselves, not you.

D: Never let someone or something that threatens you get inside arms length.

E: Never say "I've got a gun." If you need to use deadly force, the first sound they hear should be the safety clicking off. (I prefer the sound of a round being chambered when you load a shotgun)
on a side note many police officers are telling me this is not a deterrent any more & all the sound does is give your location away. I am now racking my shot gun as soon as i pick it up to investigate.

F: The average response time of a 911 call is 23 minutes, the response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second.

G: The most important rule in a gunfight is: Always win - cheat if necessary.

H: Make your attacker advance through a wall of bullets . . . You may get killed with your own gun, but he'll have to beat you to death with it, cause it'll be empty.
If you're in a gun fight:
1. If you're not shooting, you should be loading.
2. If you're not loading, you should be moving,
3. If you're not moving', you're dead.

J: In a life and death situation, do something . . . It may be wrong, but do something!

K: If you carry a gun, people call you paranoid. Nonsense! If you have a gun, what do you have to be paranoid about? (I call it being prepared)

L: You can say 'stop' or 'alto' or any other word, but a large bore muzzle pointed at someone's head is pretty much a universal language. AMEN!

M: You cannot save the planet, but you may be able to save yourself and your family.
 
E: Never say "I've got a gun." If you need to use deadly force, the first sound they hear should be the safety clicking off. (I prefer the sound of a round being chambered when you load a shotgun)
on a side note many police officers are telling me this is not a deterrent any more & all the sound does is give your location away. I am now racking my shot gun as soon as i pick it up to investigate.

My opinion on this has changed. I will not carry a gun with the safety on. When I carry a gun now it is with the safety off and one in the chamber. The only sound I want them to hear is the percussion of the shot I fired.
 
My opinion on this has changed. I will not carry a gun with the safety on. When I carry a gun now it is with the safety off and one in the chamber. The only sound I want them to hear is the percussion of the shot I fired.
Glock 19. No hammer. It will fire EVERY TIME. You can go get a bad ass Sig 226 or 229 and look like a SEAL or a Belgian FN 5.7 and be like their SFG or the French GIGN or Polish GROM or that latest model 1911 45 acp. But they all have either a hammer or a safety and can jam. Or you can just learn how to shoot a dude in the T box and a 9mm works wonders.
 
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Glock 19. No hammer. It will fire EVERY TIME. You can go get a bad ass Sig 226 or 229 and look like a SEAL or a Belgian FN 5.7 and be like their SFG or the French GIGN or Polish GROM or that latest model 1911 45 acp. But they all have either a hammer or a safety and can jam. Or you can just learn how to shoot a dude in the T box and a 9mm works wonders.
You know @clob94 , they say the true test of a man's intelligence, is the degree to which he agrees with you. You're clearly a brilliant bastige.....
 
My son literally shot the barrel out of a Sig 357 and he dearly loves it....but he now only carries Glock.
 
He apparently has never shot a Walther PPQ:)
Solid gun. Only gripe is the tolerances are a little tight and they will jam with dirt/mud/sand in them. Those freaking Glocks are the AK47 of side arms. They will always fire. Damn things have tolerances that allow for you to basically do anything to it and it will always work.
 
Solid gun. Only gripe is the tolerances are a little tight and they will jam with dirt/mud/sand in them. Those freaking Glocks are the AK47 of side arms. They will always fire. Damn things have tolerances that allow for you to basically do anything to it and it will always work.
I never seem to get dirt or sand in them where I shoot but I assume if I was crawling around in the desert I may feel different? All I know is I shoot pretty regularly, brass casings, no jamming etc. I give it an A+
 
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for the DPS to use them they have to be some type of certified. Then there is the ammo...they had gone to the 357 sig, but they switched off that because they said it was too expensive. They now are using a tricked up 9mm which costs even more Glock makes em...but I don't know if Walther does.
 
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I still got my ole .44 S&W Special Bulldog with a 2.5 barrel, it works for me, small enough to wear and lotta power..if ya can kill'em with 5 shots , you ain't shit with a pistol and better buy a shotgun....LOL!
 
17> 6....what the hell Clob?...I thought you never missed!....Why not just use a derringer?










kidding....I'm just kidding
 

I picked up a Glock 17 Third generation a couple months ago. Nice gun, but I still like 45 acp better. Best part about the Gock is that I also picked up a 33 round mag. Next step is I'm going to buy a Micro Roni for it. If you don't know what that is, here is a little video.


 
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I picked up a Glock 17 Third generation a couple months ago. Nice gun, but I still like 45 acp better. Best part about the Gock is that I also picked up a 33 round mag. Next step is I'm going to buy a Micro Roni for it. If you don't know what that is, here is a little video.



While you getting that thing warmed up! I would have shot ya ass with my Bulldog!...LOL
 
I've owned and handled a few handguns. My favorite is the S&W M&P shield 9 compact. It's a glock derivative, but feels much better in my hand. My local gunsmith says that he's never had one in for repair, they run forever. I did add tritium night sights and an aftermarket trigger. Conceals well and shoots tight groups. No problem keeping a magazine in a 10"circle at 25 yards. If I need more than 8 shots, I want a rifle.
 
yeah?....what if you get into one of those "tv" gunfights where you shoot....and then they shoot...and then you shoot ...and then they shoot? You don't want to run dry before they do....
 
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I've owned and handled a few handguns. My favorite is the S&W M&P shield 9 compact. It's a glock derivative, but feels much better in my hand. My local gunsmith says that he's never had one in for repair, they run forever. I did add tritium night sights and an aftermarket trigger. Conceals well and shoots tight groups. No problem keeping a magazine in a 10"circle at 25 yards. If I need more than 8 shots, I want a rifle.
I bought my wife a S&W 380 bodyguard a couple of years ago and I have to say it’s been such a disappointment I’ve pistol whipped myself with it 3 times. It has about a 20lb trigger pull
 
yeah?....what if you get into one of those "tv" gunfights where you shoot....and then they shoot...and then you shoot ...and then they shoot? You don't want to run dry before they do....
You made me laugh.
 
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seriously....it was somehow determined in Vietnam, only about 10% of those in a fire fight actually took aim at something. Some didn't fire at all, but most just stuck the gun out there and pulled the trigger.....lots of times. I like to think that todays troops are better trained. Anyway, I suspect that having a big magazine in a firefight is not a bad thing......size matters!

Fresh probably has a better take on this....
 
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seriously....it was somehow determined in Vietnam, only about 10% of those in a fire fight actually took aim at something. Some didn't fire at all, but most just stuck the gun out there and pulled the trigger.....lots of times. I like to think that todays troops are better trained. Anyway, I suspect that having a big magazine in a firefight is not a bad thing......size matters!

Fresh probably has a better take on this....

Its hard to see the Little Guys in the Jungle, and they be running be around like Dodge City, they be firing all kinds of shit at ya! We had plenty of Ammo, but, no water or no Hots...
 
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While you getting that thing warmed up! I would have shot ya ass with my Bulldog!...LOL

You mean you would have shot at me, accuracy with a Micro Roni is 100 times more accurate than a guy shooting a hand gun in a real fire fight. BTW if you have a Roni, generally you keep your Glock locked into it. Then all you have to do is cock it and send it.
 
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It seems like about all I do for leisure these days is buy handguns online. The lockdown has smashed whatever passing semblance of self-control I had on that front.

Welcome to the gun club, I've been the same way. I spent 800 last month on guns and ammo.
 
seriously....it was somehow determined in Vietnam, only about 10% of those in a fire fight actually took aim at something. Some didn't fire at all, but most just stuck the gun out there and pulled the trigger.....lots of times. I like to think that todays troops are better trained. Anyway, I suspect that having a big magazine in a firefight is not a bad thing......size matters!

Fresh probably has a better take on this....
If I remember correctly, the "wiz kids" did some sort of mathematical quantization where they determined how many rounds were being fired vs how many kills recorded. Of course we know now it was all bullsh!t math because there's no way to accurately predict casualties on the other side in a jungle canopy engagement. Did that dude die by frag or by fire? Nobody knows. And yes, many dudes just sprayed and prayed or didn't fire at all. That's because they didn't want to be there.

As far as Fresh is concerned, and I'm not speaking on his behalf by any means, but that dude wasn't "big green" infantry. He didn't go out on patrol with an entire company to be cannon fodder for the enemy. That dude augmented covert operators that were tasked with specific "micro-surgical" operations. He got to do the night time super cool Hollywood stuff. The military spent WAY too much time and money on that guy to throw him into a meat grinder heads up fight like they would marines or army infantry. His crew and it's like go in and get sh!t done and get out. I am, though, still waiting earnestly on him to go through his storage boxes and produce his personal highlight real edition of "warheads on foreheads". This corona virus break would have been a great excuse to do so.
 
seriously....it was somehow determined in Vietnam, only about 10% of those in a fire fight actually took aim at something. Some didn't fire at all, but most just stuck the gun out there and pulled the trigger.....lots of times. I like to think that todays troops are better trained. Anyway, I suspect that having a big magazine in a firefight is not a bad thing......size matters!

Fresh probably has a better take on this....
It wasn't Vietnam. It was WWII, reserve General S L A Marshall. Perfected the after action interview. Wrote several books, MEN AGAINST FIRE probably the one you want. In the most elite units, only 25% of men ever actually shot at an enemy. One of my best friends was a sergeant in the Rangers in Vietnam. They liked tracers because they could see who was firing up.
 
If I remember correctly, the "wiz kids" did some sort of mathematical quantization where they determined how many rounds were being fired vs how many kills recorded. Of course we know now it was all bullsh!t math because there's no way to accurately predict casualties on the other side in a jungle canopy engagement. Did that dude die by frag or by fire? Nobody knows. And yes, many dudes just sprayed and prayed or didn't fire at all. That's because they didn't want to be there.

As far as Fresh is concerned, and I'm not speaking on his behalf by any means, but that dude wasn't "big green" infantry. He didn't go out on patrol with an entire company to be cannon fodder for the enemy. That dude augmented covert operators that were tasked with specific "micro-surgical" operations. He got to do the night time super cool Hollywood stuff. The military spent WAY too much time and money on that guy to throw him into a meat grinder heads up fight like they would marines or army infantry. His crew and it's like go in and get sh!t done and get out. I am, though, still waiting earnestly on him to go through his storage boxes and produce his personal highlight real edition of "warheads on foreheads". This corona virus break would have been a great excuse to do so.

When I was in the Scouts back in the early 80's, I had a Boy Scout leader who was special forces in Vietnam. His son and I were best friends and he told me stories about his dad. Lets just say he did some crazy stuff. Sneak in a VC camp and slit the throat of every other VC in a tent just to play mind games with them. I don't remember all the stories he told me about his dad, but I can tell you when my scout leader spoke, we all listened.
 
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