If Texas held off Tech
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Myself personally I’d feel pretty much the same way. Winning the game wouldn’t change the fact that the offense is bad and Tim Beck was a bad OC. 7-6 would and 4 wins in a row would of given the program some momentum though.
Don’t know that I would feel any different. I’m one of those guys who thinks TH is going to do okay but I think it takes time. We live in an age where most think we should win and win now. This program needs stability bad IMO. We need to have a lot of freshman red shirting and have enough depth to do that. I wish fans would let it run its course and stop with all the negativity because I don’t think it helps the program. If he doesn’t show improvement in 4-5 years I’m sure the regents will let him go just like Charlie. And yes I would of given Charlie another year although I thought he was in over his head.
I just hope they come out and beat Maryland to,open the season. That will calm things down a bit. Lay another egg and it could get ugly in Austin
Next year, can Texas score more than 21 offensive points against Maryland? They scored only 21 this year. Texas is losing some of their best offensive talent.
Can the Texas defense hold Maryland below 3 scores? Texas is losing a lot of defensive talent.
If Ehlinger doesn't throw the pick late, Texas runs out the clock, beats Tech, has a 3-game winning streak and people are optimistic about the direction of things. Most of the pessimistic people here won't admit that, but its true. That loss to was a big boost to Tech and was a big blow for Texas. With all of the negativity surrounding the Texas program now, it will make things very difficult tor Herman and Co. You have to play the hand you're dealt, and next year will be a very big challenge for the staff to overcome a ton of adversity.
@LonghornMM holding off Tech would of certainly ended the season on a high note and gave the staff some momentum going in to the final recruiting stretch for the 2018 class. The problems that we are talking about though OC,OL, roster attrition, etc would still be there though. So from a fan perspective I’m not sure it changed a whole heck of a lot.
Honestly one could argue it might be a blessing in disguise. Had we won Herman might of been inclined to keep Beck. Seems like he’s getting enough pressure that change is probably gonna happen and it’s needed.
Honestly one could argue it might be a blessing in disguise. Had we won Herman might of been inclined to keep Beck. Seems like he’s getting enough pressure that change is probably gonna happen and it’s needed.
Losing to Tech was the worst possible scenario for Coach Herman. It completely dissolved any narrative or facts that showed Texas was getting better this season over last, that the team progressed throughout the year, and that the injuries across the middle of the season is what kept us from winning. All progress achieved by beating WVU was eradicated by losing to a bad Tech team in Austin on senior night. If Williams being out had been such a problem, if the coaching staff is indeed good, if the team was getting better, then we would've easily beat Tech. We weren't losing any games that we were supposed to win by that point, and all of that momentum came crumbling down. Now how can the coaches preach that enduring their "hard" and "tough" practices are worthwhile, when they can't point to any modicum of results. Players leaving, transferring, and recruits having second thoughts. This loss was BIG LEAGUE depressing
Agree that's a great post. Even with our offense shooting itself in the foot all night we were still in position and should have won that game with better play calling. The one thing we couldn't do on that drive was turn it over, so lets put the offense in the arm of our very poor passing true freshman QB. I wouldn't feel great because Tech is a team that we should have moved the ball a lot better on, but I wouldn't feel that our coaches are completely inept as I do now.
I agree with JHop.
Maryland lose was bad, but Tech was worse. It killed any momentum we had and made it look like there was no progress made during the season.
Texas fans are pretty smart. They are tough, but can be patient if they are seeing improvement. The perception that this team improved a lot over the season is pretty small right now.
Maryland lose was bad, but Tech was worse. It killed any momentum we had and made it look like there was no progress made during the season.
Texas fans are pretty smart. They are tough, but can be patient if they are seeing improvement. The perception that this team improved a lot over the season is pretty small right now.
It is evident to me that the players don't care much for the wins. They want the $$$. Evidence the # of players bolting for the nfl or transfers. It's all about them.
It might actually be better for Texas in the long run to have a good draft.
If we were likely to compete for a Conf Champ next year, it would be different.
Best scenario: They all stay and take on that challenge.
2nd best scenario: They all leave and do well in draft.
Worst case: They all leave and do not fare well in the draft.
If we were likely to compete for a Conf Champ next year, it would be different.
Best scenario: They all stay and take on that challenge.
2nd best scenario: They all leave and do well in draft.
Worst case: They all leave and do not fare well in the draft.
The same, Ellinger throwing away another game was not a surprise. He threw away the OU and the OSU game with awful decisions. However, you can throw a little blame Becks way. How many times was it 1st down inside the 5 and we run some fancy bullshit tunnel screen or roll out pass. Just run the ****ing ball 4 times and put it in the endzone. How many field goal opportunities did we miss because TH 'doesn't like 4th and 1 inside his own 40. You could argue that we lost the OU game because of dumb as brick coaching decisions....to add, how in the hell can you not have a kicker worth a damn on the 40 acres, it is downright embarrassing.
This is a bad take, and while you think you are calling out the players in question as selfish it's you that looks incredibly selfish. The end game of football is profiting off of fan amusement. That's it, it's that simple. There is no higher calling it's literally just entertainment. No one has to put their lives on hold just so dorks can get their jollies Saturday afternoons.
They've got a laundry list of problems, but this is the most puzzling one of all.
Having a great kicking game is obviously not all luck but the position is pretty much 100% mental once you have enough leg to actually kick it some distance. Finding the physical ability is easy though. Some coaches know something a lot of others don't on developing the mental side. I mean hell even NFL teams can't get their stuff in order. Nick Rose is kicking for the Redskins.
Apparently some of these guys aren't aligned like they ought to be and neither are you. Last time I checked, any business that grosses 150mm per year is more than a game, well you may see it that way bubba but someone with more $$$ than you doesn't.
So your rebuttal to football is more than entertainment is to quote how much revenue it generates? The entertainment industry (which is what football is part of) has tons of revenue and it still doesn't have some noble higher calling behind it. It's simply exists to feed our idiocracy brains.
those kids have lottery tickets. for them to risk those lottery tickets so we can win a few more games is beyond stupid.
I see. How do you think NFL teams view players with "lottery tickets"? I'll assure you Bill Belichick does not suffer guys with that view of the game. He kicks their assess to the curb. As does the private sector in general. I smell rotten attitudes.
I'm not a fan of the offensive philosophy that the staff favors but I do favor the alignment aspect of their philosophy. Alignment means being in agreement with the management which is the coaching staff on up to the AD and bad attitudes-disgruntled players don't fit. The concept of team is University centric not player centric. This is the culture that needs to change to have a winner.
I assure you, Bill Belichick has drafted PLENTY of juniors over the years. Declaring for the draft early doesn't automatically make you a "me first" guy.
Lol at us even having to "hold off" the likes of tech.
Sure, and if I were a 1-2 round guy, I would leave early. That's not the issue here. Is Chris Warren a 1st round guy? Is Shane Bueschelle(sp) a first round guy? Is Holton Hill a first round guy? Is Charles Emenihue(sp) a first round guy? Was Delance a first round guy? You get my drift? If you are a commodity then yes go. But if you are just some disgruntled dude and want to transfer because by all means the grass is greener over there, then well get over it. You made a commitment to UT. Stick with it.
bill belichick's players have already cashed in their lottery tickets. they're just hoping to get another one. you do realize that half the nfl is made up of undrafted players? so draft position means very little. if you can do something for a substantial salary, or do roughly the same thing for free, what idiot picks free?
It's not half. Not even close but there are some who were undrafted. Look, the system is set up for people to play while getting an education. Clearly most of these guys are all or nothing people. Meaning it's nfl or bust. That's a bad recipe. I am for universities paying players but it's not going to happen so here we are. IMO, the current education system is in trouble which means college sports may be in trouble. 5 years ago the head of Harvard business school predicted that 50% of universities would be in bankruptcy between 2020-2025 because of the disruption of online learning. What does this mean? Well, to your point of free vs paid... The nfl has been clamoring for it's own version of the nba d league which will hurt the skill level of cfb and the $$$ in cfb. However, the nfl product stinks and I think it's headed for bankruptcy as well. At some point the idea of student athlete may come back and the nfl guys will go straight to some kind of minor league but at greatly reduced pay. With cte will it be worth it, idk?
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WOW.....DID YOU GUYS FORGET HOW CLOSE WE CAME TO BEING 10-2 WITH VICTORIES OVER 2 TOP 8 SCHOOLS. SAVE A COUPLE FRESHMAN PICKS N A COUPLE BLOWN COVERAGES N THATS WHERE WE WOULD BE....10-2 N PROBABLY RANKED IN THE TOP 10-15. LETS NOT HANG TOM HERMAN JUST YET.......LETS SEE WHAT HE DOES NEXT YEAR WITH SOME OF HIS OWN RECRUITS MIXED IN WITH THIS TEAM. N YES WE ARE LOSING SOME PLAYERS, EVERYBODY DOES BUT WHAT POSITIONS....SO FAR 2 DB's, HILL N ELLIOT YES BUT HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE COMMITMENT LIST LATELY....3 VERY HIGHLY RATED SAFTIES N 2 HIGHLY RATED CORNERS WITH A GREAT SHOT AT ANOTHER (COOK). WARREN IS TRANSFERRING BUT I THINK WE ARE OK THERE. CONNER WILLIAMS HURTS BUT I THINK HERMAN WILL LAND A COUPLE MORE LINEMAN ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BALL YET AND OF COURSE THE POSSIBILITY OF MALIK WHICH WILL NOT B E THE END OF THE WORLD BCUZ I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME DEPTH THERE ALSO, SO RELAX GUYS N JUST REMEMBER THAT SONG, HOW DOES IT GO?....OH YEAH, GOT A FUTURE SO BRIGHT, I GOTTA WEAR SHADES.
WOW.....DID YOU GUYS FORGET HOW CLOSE WE CAME TO BEING 10-2 WITH VICTORIES OVER 2 TOP 8 SCHOOLS. SAVE A COUPLE FRESHMAN PICKS N A COUPLE BLOWN COVERAGES N THATS WHERE WE WOULD BE....10-2 N PROBABLY RANKED IN THE TOP 10-15. LETS NOT HANG TOM HERMAN JUST YET.......LETS SEE WHAT HE DOES NEXT YEAR WITH SOME OF HIS OWN RECRUITS MIXED IN WITH THIS TEAM. N YES WE ARE LOSING SOME PLAYERS, EVERYBODY DOES BUT WHAT POSITIONS....SO FAR 2 DB's, HILL N ELLIOT YES BUT HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE COMMITMENT LIST LATELY....3 VERY HIGHLY RATED SAFTIES N 2 HIGHLY RATED CORNERS WITH A GREAT SHOT AT ANOTHER (COOK). WARREN IS TRANSFERRING BUT I THINK WE ARE OK THERE. CONNER WILLIAMS HURTS BUT I THINK HERMAN WILL LAND A COUPLE MORE LINEMAN ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BALL YET AND OF COURSE THE POSSIBILITY OF MALIK WHICH WILL NOT B E THE END OF THE WORLD BCUZ I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME DEPTH THERE ALSO, SO RELAX GUYS N JUST REMEMBER THAT SONG, HOW DOES IT GO?....OH YEAH, GOT A FUTURE SO BRIGHT, I GOTTA WEAR SHADES.
You sound like Aggy, not a good look.
