Interesting Interview: Future of College Sports

[freeper]

Fellas, I listen to the "Uncommon Knowledge" podcast. It is put out by the Hoover Institute at Stanford and usually it follows politics, economics, history. This one was different and I thought some of y'all (@clob94 @speedstrength @weevilcatch) and others might find it interesting. Peter Robinson interviews Condoleeza Rice and Andrew Luck about the future of college sports and there is an emphasis on football. Be interested to hear what y'all think of the discussion.

 

[speedstrength]

Watched some of it. Rice seems to want things the way that they were.

The transfer portal is good they just need to tighten up the rules. Kids should be able to transfer one time without having to sit out for any reason what soever or if their coach gets fired.

Can't do anything about NIL. NCAA had their head in the sands and got roasted at the supreme court. Very few limitations would survive judicial review. Stuff like prohibition on promoting porn, drugs, alcohol, tobacco etc are no brainers. Limiting apparel contracts if it is different from the school would stand. Anything else would be really difficult. Its here. Deal with it.

When the ACC Grant of rights is up in 2036 there is going to be a massive shift and there will be a new level of College sports of 40ish big time programs that go to there own thing. Possibly outside the NCAA. Possibly only a football league.

What they didn't really get into enough is the money football brings in. In the age of streaming live sports that bring eyeballs are really valuable to advertisers. The problem with college football is you only have 3 time slots on Saturdays that get attention. TV partners want match ups. Big 10 schools get 65 million a year but the only schools really drawing eyeballs are Michigan and Ohio State. Penn State, Iowa, Wisconsin do alright but then Illinois, Indiana, Purdue, Minnesota, and Rutgers are also getting that.

How many people are making Purdue - Rutgers or Kentucky - Vanderbilt or NC State - Virginia Tech must watch football.

 

[aix_xpert]

Watched some of it. Rice seems to want things the way that they were.

The transfer portal is good they just need to tighten up the rules. Kids should be able to transfer one time without having to sit out for any reason what soever or if their coach gets fired.

Can't do anything about NIL. NCAA had their head in the sands and got roasted at the supreme court. Very few limitations would survive judicial review. Stuff like prohibition on promoting porn, drugs, alcohol, tobacco etc are no brainers. Limiting apparel contracts if it is different from the school would stand. Anything else would be really difficult. Its here. Deal with it.

When the ACC Grant of rights is up in 2036 there is going to be a massive shift and there will be a new level of College sports of 40ish big time programs that go to there own thing. Possibly outside the NCAA. Possibly only a football league.

What they didn't really get into enough is the money football brings in. In the age of streaming live sports that bring eyeballs are really valuable to advertisers. The problem with college football is you only have 3 time slots on Saturdays that get attention. TV partners want match ups. Big 10 schools get 65 million a year but the only schools really drawing eyeballs are Michigan and Ohio State. Penn State, Iowa, Wisconsin do alright but then Illinois, Indiana, Purdue, Minnesota, and Rutgers are also getting that.

How many people are making Purdue - Rutgers or Kentucky - Vanderbilt or NC State - Virginia Tech must watch football.

You left out the TITLE IX issues as well. If the school is participating in the NIL earnings of football players (who are clearly the most valuable asset at MOST universities) as has been suggested, then how do you balance their NIL money with other athletes and particularly female sports without violating T9.

As for transfer rules, I'm good with the free 1 timer, and even a 2nd for a coach firing. Heck, have a 3rd as a grad transfer. However, an intra-conference transfer should require you to sit out one year. Intra-conference transfers are the one thing that get to me.

 

[clob94]

Title 9 is about to take in it the NIL poop chute and there won't be sh!t women's sports can do about it.

 

[Drtxhorn]

Title 9 is about to take in it the NIL poop chute and there won't be sh!t women's sports can do about it.

The schools have always used Title IX as an excuse to promote “equity” for women’s sports programs. That’s when they were in full control of all sports revenue. Now that NIL is here, they no longer have control and can’t redistribute sports revenue like good little Socialists. Now that athletes are in control of their own NIL, the schools and NCAA can’t exercise any power over them and it is incredibly infuriating to them. They believe in heavy handed regulation where no single individual can be in control of their own NIL opportunities.

Minor tweaks to the transfer rules are acceptable and make some sense. However, the people running our universities and the NCAA are not excited at all about minor tweaks. They want the whole enchilada like back in the good old days when NIL was prohibited.

 

[2300 Nueces]

Like it or not NIL has freed Texas to be what it should be. The old system limited Texas ability to acquire talent. The title ix Lesbos in the Texas system were a check against Texas talent acquiring boosters. Also, the little 8-11 schools were essentially 'et tu brutes' always stabbing Texas in the back. I'm glad to see Texas remove the shackles.

 

[clob94]

Like it or not NIL has freed Texas to be what it should be. The old system limited Texas ability to acquire talent. The title ix Lesbos in the Texas system were a check against Texas talent acquiring boosters. Also, the little 8-11 schools were essentially 'et tu brutes' always stabbing Texas in the back. I'm glad to see Texas remove the shackles.

Why they gotta be lesbos?

 

[2300 Nueces]

Why they gotta be lesbos?

You were on campus and an athlete at Texas. You know what lurks in the female athletic dept..

 

[Drtxhorn]

You were on campus and an athlete at Texas. You know what lurks in the female athletic dept..

Look who’s been running women sports at UT over the past 40 years - Jody Conradt, Donna Lopiano, etc. Do you think those two envisioned women’s NIL to include sexy and hot females who are average athletes?

Check out Olivia Dunn or the Cavinder twins. They sure as hell aren’t lesbians and love to use their sex appeal to attract millions of horny college dudes as followers. That’s not what Jody nor Donna had in mind for “empowering “ female athletes.

 

[speedstrength]

Look who’s been running women sports at UT over the past 40 years - Jody Conradt, Donna Lopiano, etc. Do you think those two envisioned women’s NIL to include sexy and hot females who are average athletes?

Check out Olivia Dunn or the Cavinder twins. They sure as hell aren’t lesbians and love to use their sex appeal to attract millions of horny college dudes as followers. That’s not what Jody nor Donna had in mind for “empowering “ female athletes.

That's a bit of an over simplification. They have lots of female follower's and they have deals with women's clothing brands.

 

[Drtxhorn]

That's a bit of an over simplification. They have lots of female follower's and they have deals with women's clothing brands.

I was speaking metaphorically but I think you get my point. I have no idea how many followers they actually have but I do know that among them are a bunch of horny young men.

 

[txleapd]

Why they gotta be lesbos?

Shhhhhhh…. I’m imagining the hot ones. Don’t ruin this for me.

 

[weevilcatch]

Title 9 is about to take in it the NIL poop chute and there won't be sh!t women's sports can do about it.

Not only that but the schools with high number of eyeballs on their women’s volleyball, basketball and softball are about to launch into crazy talented rosters.

Some of those ladies will get paid.

Imagine Cat in these NIL days?