Ivy League Eliminating Full Contact Practices

[westx]

I heard this topic on the Dan Patrick Show this morning. It was very interesting on the trend of football to reduce head injuries. Dan Patrick detailed a bunch of statistics that I can't remember but, all were favorable to the cause. Some of the information they spoke about was the cumulative effect from the youth leagues, through high school, college and finally the pros. One of the statistics had most of the high school head injuries occurring in practice. Dan Patrick seemed to be firmly in the contact-reduction side.

The NFL has already limited the amount of full contact practices to 14 per 18 game season. The Ivy League rule is now eliminating full contact practices during the entire regular season and limiting full contact practices during spring and pre-season. Statistics can always be made to get a result you want, but, the anti-contact camp seem to be fully convinced that these types of limitations won't affect the physicality of the game. At this point, I don't really know enough to have an opinion. Here are a couple of links

Ivy League article: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/02/s...-to-eliminate-tackling-at-practices.html?_r=0

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[Son of Wasatch]

`Want to eliminate head injuries?

remove the face mask. See how fast guys will stop putting their face and head into someone.

In all truth, I love the game, but I'll be damned if I ever push my son to playing it. Nor will I allow him before he is in 8th grade.

If he wants a contact sport I'd push him to wrestling long before I do football.

 

[CoachEmUp64]

Myself and every other coach in America will be coaching 7 on 7 in 10 years

 

[clob94]

Nah-----

This is a "reactionary response" to an obvious problem. We are a pendulum society. If your last girlfriend was blonde, this time you date a brunette- if your last coach was fat, this time you hire a skinny guy.... etc.

We as Americans are known for 1 great quality--- when we absolutely HAVE to, we invent our way out of something. Invade Japan? Nope, we'll just nuke them. Russia goes to space first? Well we make it to the moon first. Running low on oil in america? We invent shale fracking. Horse and buggy? Mr Ford says no.

Somewhere in a lab, some 16 year old Doogie Howser with 3 Phd's in quantum mechanics is working on some device that fits into a helmet and reduces impact force to the brain by 90%.

 

[lupar_horns]

`Want to eliminate head injuries?

remove the face mask. See how fast guys will stop putting their face and head into someone.

In all truth, I love the game, but I'll be damned if I ever push my son to playing it. Nor will I allow him before he is in 8th grade.

If he wants a contact sport I'd push him to wrestling long before I do football.

NO, just freaking no. Do you know why the face mask was put on helmets? Because people were losing all of the teeth, breaking their jaws, noses, cheekbones, etc.

That is your choice with your kids of course. I coached youth football for 9 years. In that 9 years I only saw one concussion. I also coached basketball and soccer. I saw far more concussions in those sports than football. The players in youth football just are not heavy enough nor do they move fast enough for this to happen often.

Why would you push your son/daughter to play anything? My philosophy was to give my boys a taste of every sport and let them choose which they like. They both liked football so they played. It appears to me that you are a bit hysterical about the football=CTE thing. All sports provide the opportunity to get hurt, especially wrestling.

 

[speedstrength]

Take a look at the Seahawks Rugby style tackling video on Youtube. If I was still coaching football that's they way I would teach it which is very different from what I used to do and it takes the head out of the equation in most cases and it looks like you can get alot of the work done in shorts and t-shirts on the mat.
Also you don't need to go full contact all the time to win games. John Gagliardi didn't really have full contact practices and he won 489 games and 4 national championships.

 

[Son of Wasatch]

NO, just freaking no. Do you know why the face mask was put on helmets? Because people were losing all of the teeth, breaking their jaws, noses, cheekbones, etc.

That is your choice with your kids of course. I coached youth football for 9 years. In that 9 years I only saw one concussion. I also coached basketball and soccer. I saw far more concussions in those sports than football. The players in youth football just are not heavy enough nor do they move fast enough for this to happen often.

Why would you push your son/daughter to play anything? My philosophy was to give my boys a taste of every sport and let them choose which they like. They both liked football so they played. It appears to me that you are a bit hysterical about the football=CTE thing. All sports provide the opportunity to get hurt, especially wrestling.

I say push, but a better word would be advise. I was apart of wrestling for over 24 years and in that time I saw lots of joint and bone injuries, but almost no concussions. I remember 2 concussions, one happened when a kid was diving for an opponents legs and the other kid raised his knee and caught the one doing the dive right in his forehead and knocked him out. The second was when a wrestler picked up an opponent and slammed him down.

In football, even when you are a lightweight you can still build up enough momentum to give someone a concussion. My high school has had two kids die because of football, one happened in 1982, and the other in the 2000's. The first was a head injury the second was a neck injury.

 

[Belldozer1]

OU already implemented this starting with the bowl loss to Clemson. The players were clearly forbid to go full contact on Clemson.

 

[timpcoffey]

Nah-----

This is a "reactionary response" to an obvious problem. We are a pendulum society. If your last girlfriend was blonde, this time you date a brunette- if your last coach was fat, this time you hire a skinny guy.... etc.

We as Americans are known for 1 great quality--- when we absolutely HAVE to, we invent our way out of something. Invade Japan? Nope, we'll just nuke them. Russia goes to space first? Well we make it to the moon first. Running low on oil in america? We invent shale fracking. Horse and buggy? Mr Ford says no.

Somewhere in a lab, some 16 year old Doogie Howser with 3 Phd's in quantum mechanics is working on some device that fits into a helmet and reduces impact force to the brain by 90%.

I'm kinda think you're right... They'll call it the "DoogieHat" or maybe the "HowserHelmet."

 

[Metcalf #2]

OU already implemented this starting with the bowl loss to Clemson. The players were clearly forbid to go full contact on Clemson.

Sorry to bust your bubble, but Mack Brown was the real pioneer in this field.

 

[ryan_sublett]

Not only is this a reaction(over reaction) to current events. It's also a non story imo. If I read the news stories correctly(maybe I missed something) the rules ban hitting during in season practices. Most coaches aren't doing a lot of hitting during in season practices anyway. Especially late. So I don't really see how this really changes anything as far as injury. Nor is this some kind of setback to the game.

Plus it's the Ivy League who isn't particularly serious about athletics.