Anybody know anything about a Honda PU as my son is gonna buy one unless they have a history of trouble
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OT: Pickups
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FB kindly remind your son that nobody should ever refer to a Honda PU as a Pickup. It's just not right
Great gas mileage but other than that I think they were rated pretty low (recently).
Toyota/Chevy seems to be leading the truck market right now.
Toyota/Chevy seems to be leading the truck market right now.
Honda has always had pretty good safety ratings fwiw. I am sure they are fine for a light duty truck. I drive an F350 Ford Diesel but I haul trailers and equipment.
I recently got a Nissan Frontier 6 cylinder Crew Cab w/ towing package - gets 18-20 mpg according to the weight of my foot, got lots of sic 'em. Nice truck.
Pretty sure the Honda PU has the same engine as my wife's Honda Odyssey which is fine for the Odyssey but eh I believe for a PU. I drive a Dodge Cummins diesel 2500 which is a dream imo. Your son might want to study the new diesels in the Nissan and Dodge 1500's sized PU's.
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Diesel....personally, I would never buy a diesel. you pay extra to buy it and the resale is traditionally lower than gas models.....a double whammy! Diesel costs more than gas. but the big thing I don't like about them is they are HEAVY. My x brother in law ruined the ranch roads at our ranch in Wimberly just driving the damned thing around.
guys get diesel p/u and leave em idling for hours. ridiculous. The biggest cause of engine failure in diesels in excess idling. If I found one of our trucks at a restaurant running, I turned it off and took the keys....but I digress.
guys get diesel p/u and leave em idling for hours. ridiculous. The biggest cause of engine failure in diesels in excess idling. If I found one of our trucks at a restaurant running, I turned it off and took the keys....but I digress.
In October 2015 Ford sold 630,000 F Series PUs, Chevy sold 490,000 Silverado PUs and Honda sold 515. You make the call.
We leave them running because it takes more fuel to crank our 6L+ engines than it does to let it idle. We are just being courteous to Mother Earth.... In that regard only!
FB, I would have your son check out the new Chevy Colorados. I believe they are putting a nice little Diesel under the hood now.
My truck is ok, big, and one of the best engines ever crafted. I have a simple Air Intake and a pretty lite programmer, both additions cost me under $750 total. I took the muffler off and straight piped my exhaust from the CAD. 18 on the highway is bad for me. 21 is easy to achieve in the evenings and around 70mph and lower.
Ofcourse, if he is all gas, then there are plenty of programs out there to help achieve better power and mileage as well. Just not usually as drastic as you get with a diesel.
Don't have a good handle on many of the newer Diesel engines and their additional exhaust fluids. HTH
Man I don't know about diesel resale being lower than gas. I've had diesels since the early 90's and never had an issue with low resale. Case in point check out what used 5.9 Dodge Cummins are going for with over 100,000 on them. Consistently in the upper $20's to lower 30's. They stopped making the 5.9 in 2007 so we're not talking about new trucks.
Sorry, but I think you are really just pissed (it's called "projection") at your "X brother in law" -- modern diesels are fine. I've owned multiple Corvettes, 455 long stroke GM engines etc.-- the Cummins (2006) is the finest mill I've had the pleasure driving. Tows my boat like it's not even there, has 187, 000 flawless miles on it, and even in factory non tricked up mode runs like a bat out of hell. My point is that the new smaller diesels in the Dodge and Nissan 1500 deserve a look see. I just had the U joints and some front end suspension work done on the Dodge part of my Cummins and yep runs again like a red neck Lexus.
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Your link is in regards to a 6.0L, and only mentioned "1 hour of idle is equal to 25 driving miles", which isn't even the argument you are making or one I'm even trying to argue. Even though I believe that to be a little high, maybe 5mpg too high, the focus of this link is to keep 6.0L owners from burning up their oil life by letting the vehicle idle. Also, it says "each day a certain vehicle averages 50 miles driven and 6 hours of idle time". What? Where? Think about that. Doesn't that seem a bit far fetched? I have 242,000 miles on mine, you don't really get that unless it's a lot of highway miles, so this isn't even a fair comparison, at least not in my case.
1) I don't have a 6.0L.
2) It's tough as hell to find a legit, fuel consumption @ startup vs Idle consumption for any diesels.
3) My truck (7.3L) as stated, has a programmer and intake with tuned files for high idle and low idle control. Tuner also works with my built in idle control.
You've never had one, probably never driven one, or even started one up. I'll take my years of actual operation and knowledge vs your biased opinion (you showed that up above) unless you bring something even similar in comparison to my situation.
Well gee I was just using the fact that I was in the trucking business for over 25years and spent many hours talking about maintenance with engineers from Cummins and Catipiller about the best ways to squeeze every drop of fuel savings out of the operation of Diesel engines . I have dealt with drivers that thought they knew more than the guys that built engines. now GTFO with your idiotic ideas until you know what the hell you are talking about.
Speaking of 6.0's. I had (2) 7.3's and loved them. THEN Ford inexplicably came out with the 6.0 in 2003. I bought one in 2004 thinking it would be great like the previous Ford diesels. I kept it 3 years and put 100,000 miles on it but it was a crappy engine and real quirky. In 2007 I started driving dodge diesels and thought they were great and they were until a year and a half ago for me at least. I had a 2010 dodge diesel and as I was backing out of my driveway my tierod broke?!?! Thank goodness I wasn't on the highway. Come to find out dodge had a recall on 2008-2010 on their tirods. Consistent of what has always been the case with dodge, great engine but the body falls apart well before the engine does. So, now I am back to driving Ford's and I have to say that 6.7 diesel is pretty sharp. Pulls well
I want to appologise for being rude to bittybart.I just got a little pissed when he inferred I did not know what I was talking about.
The biggest draw back to excess idling of diesel motors.is injector damage....very expensive....anyway...that is not the point. I of course realize there are many,many applications where diesel P/U's make terriffic sense and it is not my desire nor place for that matter to tell someone what they should drive.The fact that this is a hot button topic for me is my problem and I have no business putting it on everyone else.
But mostly....I appologise to FB for helping to hi-jack his topic. FB, I am sorry.
The biggest draw back to excess idling of diesel motors.is injector damage....very expensive....anyway...that is not the point. I of course realize there are many,many applications where diesel P/U's make terriffic sense and it is not my desire nor place for that matter to tell someone what they should drive.The fact that this is a hot button topic for me is my problem and I have no business putting it on everyone else.
But mostly....I appologise to FB for helping to hi-jack his topic. FB, I am sorry.
Look at this guy, coming in here to tell me how much of a jackass I am after old horn apologized. Get lost loser.
Old horn it's ok, I have my view you have yours, we can just go on and never mention it again. Appreciate your apology. I'm sorry as well for derailing the thread further.
I have been posting here for over a decade to this point... you have been here less than a year. I call things like I see it and you ARE coming off like a troll and a douchetard. Funny how oldhorn apologized yet liked what I said about you isnt it? And what is even better is I even said maybe I got a funky cross section of your posts to come to the conclusion I did, and instead of trying to show me I had, you went full blown retard and called me a loser.... if what I said offended you that much then there is a good chance some of it is true - thats basic psychology......
You dont wana be called out for acting like a douchebag and runing double standards in terms of what qualifies as valid info - ie no links required to back up YOUR opinion, yet you chastise a Horn poster for not having and facts... yeah gfy buddy. I have WAY more respect and time invested here than you ever will... and I called you out for seeming like a typical douche troll.... if you dont like that then pay more attention to what you post.... but just based of this thread alone, you are a jackass.... now kick rocks and move along if you dont like what I have to say... after all you ARE a visitor here and not a Horn....
And just to be fair handed here - if you can actually be objective here and see why you may be viewed the way I view you, perhaps we can try to start this over again on the right foot. I have had issues before with some posters, but we were able to work our differences out and move on, and any time I was wrong I admited it and moved on. I may go off the handle on occasion but I am pretty level headed and fair in the treatment of others on here. Ask around and you will see it is true. Now, if you care to start this all over the right way, let me know bud, if not then that is your choice but will speak volumes about your own self.
I was so offended I took your petulant "jackass" and raised you a "loser". Bad days come and go. Have a better one, a nicer one.
I didn't see my initial response to be baiting or trolling. I have since both received and offered an apology and you are still here trying to run this board with some sort of power.
I'm not trying to take anyone's turf here big dawg. Just offering my opinion of trucks to help out FB.
Yeah.... this seems legit......your experience over someone elses opinion.... yet your experience is what forms YOUR opinion..... maybe other people have had different experiences than you..... yet you were quick to brush that off and basically talk down to someone else for it....THIS is why I said you were acting a BIT like a jackass.... taking over turf? I care less about any of that crap, you just said some backwards crap to another poster and came off acting smug about it so I commented on it.
As far as my day goes, it has been great so far and looking to get better. Either way I am not gonna get in to the back and forth with you over this. You said your peace and I explained my own. Now this dies and we move on and start over. lol
Yeah.... this seems legit......your experience over someone elses opinion.... yet your experience is what forms YOUR opinion..... maybe other people have had different experiences than you..... yet you were quick to brush that off and basically talk down to someone else for it....THIS is why I said you were acting a BIT like a jackass.... taking over turf? I care less about any of that crap, you just said some backwards crap to another poster and came off acting smug about it so I commented on it.
As far as my day goes, it has been great so far and looking to get better. Either way I am not gonna get in to the back and forth with you over this. You said your peace and I explained my own. Now this dies and we move on and start over. lol
All good man.
So... Do you diesel?
All good man.
So... Do you diesel?
LOL... no... never got in to diesel engines. Preferred the old school gasoline ones. Easier for me to work on if need be. ALthough I almost bought a Dodge Diesel last month for a work truck, but went with a gas engine Dodge instead... not bad. My buddy drives one of the big Cummins Diesel trucks and I do like the ride it has to it... just not my thing.
The one thing no one even mentioned is that most people buying a pickup don't use it for anything other than driving it around. It drives me nuts. If your going to buy a pickup for work, get an f'ing pickup and use it for what it's meant for.
Living in SA, I see so damn many people driving around in pickups and the most they probably ever use it for is carrying groceries in the back.
If someone is dead set on buying a pickup just to say I drive a pickup, buy a damn Honda. Sounds like the perfect vehicle for them.
However if you work for a living, I mean real work (As a kid, I roofed houses), you get a pickup that will do the job.
Living in SA, I see so damn many people driving around in pickups and the most they probably ever use it for is carrying groceries in the back.
If someone is dead set on buying a pickup just to say I drive a pickup, buy a damn Honda. Sounds like the perfect vehicle for them.
However if you work for a living, I mean real work (As a kid, I roofed houses), you get a pickup that will do the job.
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