yes we have solid commit from Westlake QB,but we need to recruit this QB from Lone Star HS, he is committed to Utah, very athletic and great arm..Game on now live from Ford Center..Tired of letting to QB KIDS leaving our state!
QB from Lone Star
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Doug F was 5ft 6, looking for depth and kids with heart? Yes kid from Westlake is great, players get hurt, things change. UT has historically recruited bad at this position % wise...
Flute didn't play in the era of 325lbs 6'-5" DLs that run sub 5.0 in the 40. Today's LBs would have been DLs in his era.
We are extremely tight on scholarship numbers for the '17 class. The staff isn't taking any depth/project QBs for '17. Look for two in the '18 class.
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Do any of you get to see Avery Davis?
He surprised a lot of people & went to elite11 as an upset.
I honestly don't know if he will stay committed to ND now he will have Wimbush & Jurkovec with him all four years.
Today will be the first time I've seen him.
He surprised a lot of people & went to elite11 as an upset.
I honestly don't know if he will stay committed to ND now he will have Wimbush & Jurkovec with him all four years.
Today will be the first time I've seen him.
Fluttie could have played in any era, cause he was
Winner and played with heart. BTW Shelly is 6ft and growing, wowner why Ohio State is after him if he is to small? This exactly the reason we have sucked at QB recruiting with this attitude. Passed on Drew Brees, RG 3, the all pro from NFl...many others because we want an replacement type like McCoy and Major..Football has changed and we need QB's with speed and elusiveness..not saying Westlake kid is not top recruit but we need depth...Shelly would fill that void...
No. We missed on Brees, Griffin, and others. And so did most of the nation. Brees went to freaking Purdue. UH was about the only team in on Griffin and Briles left to BU and took him with him. You know who else whiffed on them...Saban, Stoops, Carroll, Meyer, Miles, Holz, etc.
No idea what a "replacement type like McCoy and Major" even means. Brees and Major are about as close of a comparison to each other as it gets, oh and Brees came before Major and McCoy so I'm glad our coaches were in with Madame Cleo. Griffin is a VY clone and its not like the staff wasn't looking for guys like that (see Pryor, Swoopes, etc). We got Gilbert. We went after guys like Stafford and Mallett. We got others who didn't work out and transferred elsewhere. Hindsight is 20/20. Its not like we just haven't been trying to find a QB since Brees came out of HS in the late 90s.
With hundreds upon hundreds of D1 football players graduating high school from the state of TX each and every year............simple math says we can't get them all and we will miss on plenty. Not to mention not all of them want to come here. Nor are many a good fit.
Would this kid even want to come to UT and compete with Buechele and Ehlinger among other young QBs we have???
I mean cry me a river, even if we offer and the kid chooses on his own not to come here.....fickle fans will cry and act like our coaches are morons. Simple math. We can't get em all. Not even close.
Dude you are on a roll......you rewatched the TEXAS/ND game and have me convinced we should just forfeit the game and now I'm thinking we should pull Ehlingers scholarship offer and offer this guy I've never heard of!!!! Man I would follow you to the end of the earth if I had a chance...
just simply no...my kid has played against Jason Shelley every year since he was 7...kids has decent wheels but is small..he has an arm but his accuracy is terrible...just no
Luck was going to Stanford all the way and Mack was obsessed with his offers to commitment ratio.
I agree on some the points, but that is not the point.,The point is we need to constantly be recruiting QB's that fit our offense, Ohio State built depth at QB and we should do the same..
You should..Dude you are on a roll......you rewatched the TEXAS/ND game and have me convinced we should just forfeit the game and now I'm thinking we should pull Ehlingers scholarship offer and offer this guy I've never heard of!!!! Man I would follow you to the end of the earth if I had a chance...
Believe me, we have been through and through this discussion over the last few years and have given Mack Brown several verbal black eyes. We pretty much all agree with what you are saying. The quarterback drought we have had is horrendous. But, the "list" that has been discussed on misses by Mack are Luck, RG3, Manziel, and even Winston. Other than Manziel, who know how high our chances were with the others. Mack put all of his eggs into Garrett Gilbert's basket.
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I'd say that is exactly what the staff is doing. And it is what every staff does, every single year.
Look, we have changed our O. We need to settle on an O before we can settle on a Qb that fits our O.
Laziness in recruiting was one of Macks biggest downfalls. The other big mistake was he was enamored with Bama's smashmouth game and he tried to overnight turn a spread team in to a smashmouth team. He miscast personnel at OL, QB, RB, and WRs and a style that Greg Davis had recruited for over a decade.......and we dominated with for most of that decade.....and he overnight tried to fit a square peg in to a round hole. He then fired Greg, scrapped the new O, and now with a hodge podge of different Offensive style recruits, he went back to the spread with different lackluster OCs and the wrong personnel. Rinse, wash, repeat....he kept playing catchup not settling on an O and not having the right players to run whatever new style he was changing to after that.
Charlies biggest mistake (and I thought it from day 1) was also being loyal to his OC Watson. Wrong guy, wrong place, with the wrong offense. We were initially sold on OL coach from OSU being our OC, then told Co-OCs, and by the first game Watson was calling the plays and he essentially backdoored him in to the job that very few thought he was qualified to do. I also think he should have aggressively gotten at least one more QB to compete with Swoopes over the past few years. No excuses, but he is playing catch up himself. His saving grace is I think he is finally figuring it out.
But to do what you say we need to do.....first we need an established O in place, then you get the recruits to follow suit and join that O. Chicken meet egg.
And adding some smallish QB....to Buechele and Ehlinger who are built for this style O.....I don't get your point.
Other than that as a HC, you can never have too many QBs. Too bad kids don't agree with this mentality.
With TV deals putting every school on the map....kids aren't begging to come and sit out for years at the blueblood schools. When kids don't start from day 1, they transfer out. This kid probably wouldn't even come here and compete and stay a backup or 3rd string.
The bottom line is that nowadays depth is more of an issue than ever across the nation. And the point is that you just can't afford to miss on QBs. With offenses becoming more QB-centric...and depth charts dwindling. Teams rise and fall so fast and it is in large part due to their QB.
Can you even name who is taking over at Bama QB?
Or which new frosh is starting at FSU? Look at them as a case study, they nailed it with Winston...then had no depth and had to get Golson to xfer....that domino pushed Coker to Bama...and now they are back to square F'd with two FR competing to start and the more highly rated one has discipline issues that will cost him the job from day 1....but they just won a Natty recently and have an established coach and O and still have depth chart issues at QB.
ATM loses their top few QBs every year and had to get one from OU. And that same OU team has had a few flops since Bradford and pornstache left town. Hell they had to to go get a TT xfer QB to save their position. And then made a 'trade' with Aggy for backups.
Cal also had to go to a TT xfer bc their depth chart behind the guy that everyone knew was leaving to be the NFL #1 pick was nada. I could go on and on, but the Ohio St wealth at QB is by far the minority. You simply can't afford to miss is the deal. Because you just don't get to stockpile QBs all over your roster any more. They go where they can start. And the kids go where they think they fit. Not sure why you are acting like staffs don't recognize that and try to do the same thing with offering kids that fit.
And I am not sure this kid you are pimping in this thread is a fit in our O philosophy at all. This isn't burger king, you can't just order up 6 Qbs to go.
Other than that as a HC, you can never have too many QBs. Too bad kids don't agree with this mentality.
With TV deals putting every school on the map....kids aren't begging to come and sit out for years at the blueblood schools. When kids don't start from day 1, they transfer out. This kid probably wouldn't even come here and compete and stay a backup or 3rd string.
The bottom line is that nowadays depth is more of an issue than ever across the nation. And the point is that you just can't afford to miss on QBs. With offenses becoming more QB-centric...and depth charts dwindling. Teams rise and fall so fast and it is in large part due to their QB.
Can you even name who is taking over at Bama QB?
Or which new frosh is starting at FSU? Look at them as a case study, they nailed it with Winston...then had no depth and had to get Golson to xfer....that domino pushed Coker to Bama...and now they are back to square F'd with two FR competing to start and the more highly rated one has discipline issues that will cost him the job from day 1....but they just won a Natty recently and have an established coach and O and still have depth chart issues at QB.
ATM loses their top few QBs every year and had to get one from OU. And that same OU team has had a few flops since Bradford and pornstache left town. Hell they had to to go get a TT xfer QB to save their position. And then made a 'trade' with Aggy for backups.
Cal also had to go to a TT xfer bc their depth chart behind the guy that everyone knew was leaving to be the NFL #1 pick was nada. I could go on and on, but the Ohio St wealth at QB is by far the minority. You simply can't afford to miss is the deal. Because you just don't get to stockpile QBs all over your roster any more. They go where they can start. And the kids go where they think they fit. Not sure why you are acting like staffs don't recognize that and try to do the same thing with offering kids that fit.
And I am not sure this kid you are pimping in this thread is a fit in our O philosophy at all. This isn't burger king, you can't just order up 6 Qbs to go.
UT Qb commits
2017 Ehlinger
2016 Buechele
2015 Merrick, Locksley
2014 Heard
2013 Swoopes
2012 Brewer, Overstreet
2010 Ash
2009 Wood, Case McCoy
2008 Gilbert
2007 Kinne, Chiles
2006 Snead, Harris
2005 McCoy
2004 ---------
2003 ---------
2002 Vince Young, Bankston
Looks to me like lately we have recruited plenty of kids to play WR. Why do we need one more? Like half of em in the last 6 classes. Where do Brees and RG3 fit in their? Brees was circa 90s. And would have loved to get Griffin in hindsight over Gilbert, but back in high school in 2008 not a soul agreed with that sentiment. No one was saying Mack is a moron to sign that 5 star Gilbert (he was a moron to scrap the O and push happy feet in to an offense that didn't suit him and an OL that couldn't protect him....he helped turn him in to David Carr, but the kid always had that in him....but no one knew).
And how does this recruit of yours even compare to Brees or RG3....to me he is close to neither.
I just don't get the point. Other than you want us to have more QBs....well we all agree here. So does the entire nation. So maybe, just maybe you coach this kid or are his family and want him to get some pub.
2017 Ehlinger
2016 Buechele
2015 Merrick, Locksley
2014 Heard
2013 Swoopes
2012 Brewer, Overstreet
2010 Ash
2009 Wood, Case McCoy
2008 Gilbert
2007 Kinne, Chiles
2006 Snead, Harris
2005 McCoy
2004 ---------
2003 ---------
2002 Vince Young, Bankston
Looks to me like lately we have recruited plenty of kids to play WR. Why do we need one more? Like half of em in the last 6 classes. Where do Brees and RG3 fit in their? Brees was circa 90s. And would have loved to get Griffin in hindsight over Gilbert, but back in high school in 2008 not a soul agreed with that sentiment. No one was saying Mack is a moron to sign that 5 star Gilbert (he was a moron to scrap the O and push happy feet in to an offense that didn't suit him and an OL that couldn't protect him....he helped turn him in to David Carr, but the kid always had that in him....but no one knew).
And how does this recruit of yours even compare to Brees or RG3....to me he is close to neither.
I just don't get the point. Other than you want us to have more QBs....well we all agree here. So does the entire nation. So maybe, just maybe you coach this kid or are his family and want him to get some pub.
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