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Yeah I’m so sick of this cutesy bullshit on the goal line. If you can’t line it up and run it in against a pathetic BYU run defense, you don’t deserve to be seen in public.
Hey there’s an idea! How about instead of this sidewalk sissy bullshit, just throw a slant to your most clutch receiver? Amazing how that works.
The fact that consistently, going back to the Charlie Strong era 9 years ago, Texas has been stopped short on 1st through 4th and goal, or 4th and short- had pur offensive line stuffed time and time and time again- tells me a few things.
The first thing it tells me is- we are recruiting offensive linemen out of HS that have zone blocked their entire life. This is due to the change in offensive philosophy in Texas. The spread offense, 7 on 7 competitions, etc- have ruined what it means to be a "power running" team.
In the past, defensive lineman could look at Olineman's stance and tell a few things immediately.
1. Is everyone's weight on their hand? If so, they are all firing off the ball to run right at us. (This is called a "heavy" stance)
2. If everyone is "heavy" but the weak side guard, they are pulling the guard to kick-out the end or OLB to run at our edge.
3. If everyone is heavy but the backside tackle, they are pulling the tackle to run the "trap".
4. If everyone is heavy but the backside guard AND tackle, they are running the GT or counter play.
5. If everyone is light (weight distributed back, not forward) it's a pass or a draw.
Now- it may SOUND simple, but as a defensive player, if I can come to the line and look at your lineman and determine "pre-snap" if it's a run or a pass- then the defense has a decided advantage over you.
And because 300 pound men aren't ballerinas, it's hard to get that weight moving in one direction easily--- unless it's forward. So they've had to disguise run/pass plays by getting all the lineman to be "light" instead of "heavy" in their stances.
This gives the defense an edge on short yardage plays.
The second thing that the shift in offensive philosophy has done is--- it makes Olineman not as physical as they used to be. And when you're not as physical, you're not as tough. Lack of toughness leads to getting your ass stuffed time and again in short yardage situations.
Great insight thanks do you think we should open the gaps instead of bunching up , maybe give RB some room ?
Makes a lot of sense. The caliber of linemen we have should power through most opposing defenses. However, BYU’s D line and linebackers are supposed to be one of the best in the Big12. I expected they were going to win some battles but it sure seemed like they kicked our Olinemen around consistently yesterday.
Here's the problem woth opening the splits on the offensive line--
Remember when The Pirate was at Tech?
Splits would be up to 5 feet wide. If you're playing a defensive line with any amount of speed (and smarts) those gaps are tough to defend. Plus, you get down to the goal line and the back of the endzone acts like a 12th defender-- which gives the defense an even greater advantage.
If you remember back in the late 80s and early 90s when Warren Moon and the oilers were doing the Mouse Davis Run and Shoot- the Oilers could throw it all over you between the 20s. They were unstoppable. But get them into the red zone and Mike Rozier or Alonzo Highsmith or Lorenzo White had to take over. And even with thumpers at running backs like these guys-- the oilers struggled.
Guess who the oilers had on their offensive line back then?
A guy named Mike Munchak and a guy named Bruce Matthews.....
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How about this, tell our line in short yardage or goal line in the red zone to hold just enough to create seams. If we get caught, back up and throw the slant or screen.
Their secondary is crap. We should’ve thrown for over 300 yards. Overall, I think we only had about 430 yards of total offense. Well below our average
My concern is with the KSU Oline. They’ll be one of the best our D line will face all season. If they run at will and limit our possessions, we’re going to be in for a long afternoon. Especially with an inexperienced QB.
PK will need to scheme something special for this week.
live and die with the blitz. Do not let the run game get going and do not let their qb sit in the pocket/ escape the pocket. Blitz blitz blitz. If you get beat every now and then so be it. Just dont sit back and let them take it. Make them go get it.
So you’re saying the DBs giving a 10 yard cushion on 4th and 2 is bad???
I see more of a scheme and play caller issue down inside the 5 yard line than I do an offensive line problem. Sark is way too predictable. I don’t care how good your offensive line is if the defense knows what play is coming.
Sark needs to break tendencies down in the red zone. Every time we bring in the jumbo package with Murphy it’s a run up the middle. We have no other plays off of that. That’s easy money for a defensive coordinator. It’s the same thing with the wildcat. Red keeps the ball every time. The one time we broke tendency out of that formation and threw it went for a big gain.
Sark needs to break tendencies down in the red zone. Every time we bring in the jumbo package with Murphy it’s a run up the middle. We have no other plays off of that. That’s easy money for a defensive coordinator. It’s the same thing with the wildcat. Red keeps the ball every time. The one time we broke tendency out of that formation and threw it went for a big gain.
At some point our O linemen have line up and whip the D line’s ass. It shouldn’t matter if they know it’s coming or not. I think that’s what Sark is trying to get our guys to do consistently.
Exactly. We’ve got a room full of 4 and 5 star lineman. We haven’t had that in 10 years. I think Clob’s eval is dead on. We’ve got a bunch of guys that grade out high but Texas HS football has changed. Outside of Lovelady and a few others, nobody is running run heavy offenses. K State, Kansas, Iowa St, and all those Mid-West schools are pulling 3 stars from run heavy high schools and kicking the shit out of us because they know how to play mean and tough.
We need to place an order for a dump truck load of dickhead to be delivered to our O line room before Saturday.
Outside zone to Blue. Do y'all realize that Blue is averaging almost 7 yards per carry and Baxter 4. I don't know why this staff plays favorites but it's going to get them on the hot seat right quick. They've been huffing their farts a bit. Time for a fan wakeup call. Miss the b12 ccg and the assholes come out of the woodwork.
This staff had Baxter as the starter. Something doesn't smell right.
No it's not. He's getting cute inside the goal line and it's costed him. He tried a counter play the other day inside the 3 yard line. There is zero reason to be pulling lineman like that inside the 5 yard line. Then running the wildcat 3 consecutive plays.
There's still a lot of youth on our offensive line. Banks, Connor, and Campbell all have less than 2 years of starts under their belts. It takes time with these offensive line guys to develop. That's why you look around the NFL and see a shortage of starting caliber offensive line guys. They are really are hard to come by. You can't expect them to be finished products as sophomores. But for the most part the running game has been a big plus for this team all season long. Brooks is averaging 6.4 yards a carry. A lot of that is a product of good offensive line play.
I think we need to spread teams out more inside the 5 yard line. When you get into those tight formations and condense the defense along the line of scrimmage it's really easy to not account for guys. Spread teams out and move guys out of the box and see if you can create some running lanes.
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Blue is averaging 7 yards a game because the law of large numbers hasn't kicked in yet.
Blue has got some speed and seems to run harder. I guess that happens when you are trying to work your way up the ladder.
Oh I know. The kid has all the tools-- just no toughness. But that has nothing to do with Blue having a small sample size.
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