Will he have success at Nebraska? I believe he will turn them around. Some boards don’t believe he can recruit up there. I bet he will recruit well and turn them around.
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Nebraska will never be the Tom Osbourne era program again, that is dead. But their side of the BIG10 sucks and he appears pretty good. I could see him getting them back in the conference championship game fairly often, but not winning it.
Looks like he just flipped a 4* QB from Tennessee.
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My dad always told me that the death of Nebraska football came when the big farming companies took over all the mom and pop farming in Nebraska. When the big companies came in, the number of "big ol farm boys" went down drastically. And Nebraska football hasn't been the same since.
In the 70's and 80's Body Epley had Nebraska ahead of the curve in terms of Strength and Conditioning, facilities for strength and conditioning and Nutrition. Then in the 90's everyone caught up and the Husker Power was no longer the game changer it had been.
Nebraska has no local recruiting base. Back when they were rolling they had the benefit of taking prop 48 recruits. They were also on national TV quite a bit. Now most programs games can be seen nation wide. They also lost most of their Texas pipeline when they left the Big12. They just don't have the depth of talent that they used to.
Can Frost change that? To some extent probably but times have changed. Florida, Texas and California kids don't have to play for schools in the midwest to get on TV and some of those ugly winters might drive some kids away.
Nebraska has no local recruiting base. Back when they were rolling they had the benefit of taking prop 48 recruits. They were also on national TV quite a bit. Now most programs games can be seen nation wide. They also lost most of their Texas pipeline when they left the Big12. They just don't have the depth of talent that they used to.
Can Frost change that? To some extent probably but times have changed. Florida, Texas and California kids don't have to play for schools in the midwest to get on TV and some of those ugly winters might drive some kids away.
This is 75% of the reason why.
Don't believe it?
Go back and look at some of Nebraska's best players over the last 50 years and you'll see that half of them are from some little town you've never heard of.
Kearny, Wood River, North Platte, Columbus etc
actually, the death of nebraska football was when the big12 was formed and the Texas schools insisted that they could no longer take artards. also, steroid testing got better. then nebraska panicked and went away from what made them successful. with power football, it made them stand out in a way; when they went "modern", they were just another place... out in the middle of nowhere. they could have been what wisconsin is, but they got greedy when they fired pelini.
now, i think frost may be the real deal, and he is still in that crap division. so, they should be better.
now, i think frost may be the real deal, and he is still in that crap division. so, they should be better.
This is correct. They used to load up on academically challenged kids from California, New Jersey, etc... They were the place to go to school for illiterate players for decades. Why else would a kid from LA go to Nebraska. They also had county scholarships they used for the walk on program, which was great. But it was never really a walk on program, as the kids still went to school for free. They could juice a kid for 3 years and have a monster by their RS Junior year. Half there OL and the majority of their fullbacks were walk ons.
Depends on what you consider “success.” Will he be Tom Osborne? No. Could he get it back to where Frank Solich had it where they are winning 8-10 games on a consistent basis? Yeah probably.
Yeah I'd bet the under if the bar is to make them the premiere football powerhouse in the country. I'd pretty much take the under for any coach at any program if the idea is to restore to the best they've ever been. I would be right a lot more often than wrong.
When the Big12 formed in 1996, Nebraska was 2-time defending champ. In fact, Nebraska-Colorado was among top games annually. They won another in 1997. Played for another title game in 2001 against Miami.
Of course it seems unlikely they could reach the 1990s level, but not impossible. Folks in late 1990s said OU would never be a power again. Look at what Leach has done at WSU. Look at what Stanford has done for the past 10yrs (without compromising its soul from what I know). USC was just treading water before Carroll.
Obviously the formula for success might have changed, but the biggest factor is the coach. Time will tell regarding Frost.
Of course it seems unlikely they could reach the 1990s level, but not impossible. Folks in late 1990s said OU would never be a power again. Look at what Leach has done at WSU. Look at what Stanford has done for the past 10yrs (without compromising its soul from what I know). USC was just treading water before Carroll.
Obviously the formula for success might have changed, but the biggest factor is the coach. Time will tell regarding Frost.
Agree on these:
1) Strength, conditioning and 'roids. No longer easy to get away with. No longer an advantage
2) Prop 48 / partial qualifiers. Texas killed that when the Big XII formed.
3) TV advantage killed by conference networks and better overall conference TV packages.
Plus
1) Donor money used to be a big advantage, but better TV money and more equal distribution in conferences put a lot of teams in the same neighborhood if not the exact same number
2a) Scholarship limits - in the old days, teams like NU stocked many more players than they needed and they always had guys ready to play. It gave them a huge advantage over schools that couldn't afford that. Now that there are only 85, there is a lot more talent parity
2b) NU got around this to some degree with "community scholarships" that always seemed to go to a local Nebraska kid who would walk on as an OL at NU. They can't get away with back door scholarships any more.
3) The myth has been shattered. Being part of Nebraska football just doesn't mean what it used to. It doesn't mean winning. It doesn't mean NFL possibilities. It has fallen as a national brand. Nebraska is the JC Penney's catalog in the era of Amazon.com
4) Nebraska used to be able to take the best kids out of Missouri whenever they wanted because Mizzou, ku and k State were terrible. They still occasionally get one or two, but it's not always the best and it takes them a lot more work. They used this to make up for a lack of local Nebraska talent. They haven't filled the void.
