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should we be panicking

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I may be futilely trying to inject some rationality into the board, but I'm going for it. I think the pity party freak-outs on the board are overreactions. The primary issue is the defense as the offense is currently grading out as one of the best Texas offensives in the last 20 years.

Texas lost the most production from last season than any other power 5 team in college football, and ranked 121 out of 130 teams total. Specifically they ranked 88 worst in offensive returning production and a whopping 123 worst in defensive returning production.

On top of a brand new, young defense they just finished playing with six starters injured and finished the game with a walk-on safety playing the last two series. By the way, add two more to the six injured. As of tonight it was announced both Foster and Overshawn are injured.

On top of 8 new defensive starters, and currently having 7 injured starters, Texas is at the peak of getting through a roster low point. What should be the current meat of our roster and starters is the 2016 and 2017 classes, making up the current upper-classmen. Unfortunately these have turned out to be two of worst classes in the history of Texas recruiting. Fortunately Herman's first two classes, 2018 and 2019, have been good but it's unrealistic to expect true freshmen, red-shirt freshmen, and true sophomores to field a decent defense.

Texas currently grades out at #64 in defense (ESPN efficiency) and that sounds about right...or maybe better than expected for the extraordinary amount of injuries, youth, and inexperience that is the reality right now.

Considering that with a solid personnel, Orlando put together one of the best Texas defenses in modern Texas football history in 2017, I think it's too soon to freak out.
 
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What's disturbing is his inability or unwillingness to change the D to match the personnel. Hoping we'll play less max blitz this week, keep things in front of them and makes teams earn their points. We did pretty good on 1st and 2nd down last week. Need to quit exposing our corners with no safety over the top. We'll score points but need to hold the other team to low 30s. That seems like a reasonable ask, but didn't get it done last week.
 
How about go to a simple 2 DE`s and 2 DT1s. 2 LB`s 4 DB`s with a nickle
If it’s simply the system, then why and how do plenty of other college and NFL teams base out of it? And how did Texas field one of their best defenses ever out of it in 2017 with the same coaches? Should the coaches try and overhaul a defensive or offensive system any season where their is a rash of injuries? And then try and switch systems back the moment they are heathy enough?
 
If it’s simply the system, then why and how do plenty of other college and NFL teams base out of it? And how did Texas field one of their best defenses ever out of it in 2017 with the same coaches? Should the coaches try and overhaul a defensive or offensive system any season where their is a rash of injuries? And then try and switch systems back the moment they are heathy enough?

Unfortunately I think it is what it is until we get some healthy players back. Clean up some fundamentals and hope our offense can outscore them. Keep the game within one score and hope we get the ball last.
 
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There isn't a huge difference between a 4-2-5 and the 3-3-5. In our case you would be putting Wilbon in at a 3 technique and pulling either Ossai or McCollugh off of the field. I'm not sure that makes us better.
 
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Nobody will ever convince me that if Alabama had lost the exact same amount of players on defense that they would be ranked at or near the bottom of all defensive stats.

I refuse to believe that.
Why should they be? Their personnel is on another level than Texas.
 
Should we be panicking? I think that question will be answered in the coming weeks. There are lots of things to be concerned with. Texas has had two significant decommits this week. That right there is reason for concern. Yes, IMO we should be very concerned.
 
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Nobody will ever convince me that if Alabama had lost the exact same amount of players on defense that they would be ranked at or near the bottom of all defensive stats.

I refuse to believe that.

I can't dispute that (but there is very little I can dispute), however, Alabama has a depth of good players recruited over a period of time when we were experimenting with political correctness.

During that time, I don't know what we thought we were doing, but it sure as hell wasn't pursuing Alabama quality football standards in recruiting or coaching.
 
I may be futilely trying to inject some rationality into the board, but I'm going for it. I think the pity party freak-outs on the board are overreactions. The primary issue is the defense as the offense is currently grading out as one of the best Texas offensives in the last 20 years.

Texas lost the most production from last season than any other power 5 team in college football, and ranked 121 out of 130 teams total. Specifically they ranked 88 worst in offensive returning production and a whopping 123 worst in defensive returning production.

On top of a brand new, young defense they just finished playing with six starters injured and finished the game with a walk-on safety playing the last two series. By the way, add two more to the six injured. As of tonight it was announced both Foster and Overshawn are injured.

On top of 8 new defensive starters, and currently having 7 injured starters, Texas is at the peak of getting through a roster low point. What should be the current meat of our roster and starters is the 2016 and 2017 classes, making up the current upper-classmen. Unfortunately these have turned out to be two of worst classes in the history of Texas recruiting. Fortunately Herman's first two classes, 2018 and 2019, have been good but it's unrealistic to expect true freshmen, red-shirt freshmen, and true sophomores to field a decent defense.

Texas currently grades out at #64 in defense (ESPN efficiency) and that sounds about right...or maybe better than expected for the extraordinary amount of injuries, youth, and inexperience that is the reality right now.

Considering that with a solid personnel, Orlando put together one of the best Texas defenses in modern Texas football history in 2017, I think it's too soon to freak out.

panicking? never! frustrated and realizing that lack of tackling is once again an epidemic in austin, absolutely. more so, realizing that herman lacks answers and the program isn't headed in a direction to significantly improve and become an elite program...yeah.

texas still has guys on this staff that don't belong or are kept for continuity sake. think about that. rather than pursue and retain the best texas can afford, herman doesn't want to rock the boat or admit mistakes.

yeah they are young and yeah they have some injuries but that isn't the sole cause for texas's mediocrity. its some bad football on O, D and ST. its a lack of poise, precision and sheer will.

we all laughed at lsu not getting herman and settling on coach O. who's laughing now. their offense might actually have them in contention for a playoff. they play with to impose their will and they play extremely hard to the echo of the whistle. texas plays a really lackluster, unmotivated, poorly coached brand of football that almost lost to kansas.

i hope to one day see texas rise again, dominate, win, compete for national titles but i'm pretty sure unless something significant happens, herman isn't the guy to do it. he might just be the guy who caught fire from a great osu team and was able to really motivate kids who weren't recruited by most at houston.

the lost decade continues.
 
panicking? never! frustrated and realizing that lack of tackling is once again an epidemic in austin, absolutely. more so, realizing that herman lacks answers and the program isn't headed in a direction to significantly improve and become an elite program...yeah.

texas still has guys on this staff that don't belong or are kept for continuity sake. think about that. rather than pursue and retain the best texas can afford, herman doesn't want to rock the boat or admit mistakes.

yeah they are young and yeah they have some injuries but that isn't the sole cause for texas's mediocrity. its some bad football on O, D and ST. its a lack of poise, precision and sheer will.

we all laughed at lsu not getting herman and settling on coach O. who's laughing now. their offense might actually have them in contention for a playoff. they play with to impose their will and they play extremely hard to the echo of the whistle. texas plays a really lackluster, unmotivated, poorly coached brand of football that almost lost to kansas.

i hope to one day see texas rise again, dominate, win, compete for national titles but i'm pretty sure unless something significant happens, herman isn't the guy to do it. he might just be the guy who caught fire from a great osu team and was able to really motivate kids who weren't recruited by most at houston.

the lost decade continues.

Realistic take, krzy. Unfortunately you're right. :(
 
Realistic take, krzy. Unfortunately you're right. :(

and i hate it that i might be. there's no reason for texas to be average. no one is on top forever but texas has been really bad for 10+ years now. just sad and frustrating.
 
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