Unemployment pays 300 a week I believe most truck drivers make over that
Signs All Point to a Gasoline Shortage This Summer, CNN Warns
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fake news outlet. Don't believe that one bit. We will be fine.
While I hear you, benefits are up to $535 a week plus things like SNAP in Texas, more in other states.
But no, I don't imagine hauling fuel/long haul trucking very fun after a week or a month.
Supply and demand. At current prices maybe they lose money. But if there is a shortage, people are wanting gas, willing to pay more and refineries need more oil to do that, by definition prices will go up. A lot. You can't say whether someone will or won't move the oil with trucks as a blanket statement until you know what price they can get. If gulf coast refineries announce they will pay $300 a barrel, you watch how many trucks line up for that business. I don't know how this isn't obvious. It all depends on price and in shortages prices skyrocket.
People are making good money sitting on their asses right now. Such a horrible slippery slope that will slip to a big ole bag of shit. It's coming and nothing can stop it. Everything is going to skyrocket. Inflation breathing down our throats. I am not on the elite level of living so it pisses me off.
Add the additional $600 per week paid by the feds(or us that actually work and pay taxes, or our kids that will in the future) throughout the summer, the additional $300 per week still being paid by the feds, along with the $3000 per person in stimulus received to date, and over $3500 per child received or to be received and that is not a bad gig. Most all of this will not be taxed before it is over. In addition consider that these people can sit on their ass, take their kids out of childcare, and not have to do anything or actually work. Does that change your opinion?
Not saying everybody is doing this but many are.
But I thought this was all going to change for the better?
Wrong...the $300 is the extra federal money on on top of whatever your state pays. In Texas unemployment maxes out around $525. At current standards if a person is getting max unemployment plus the $300 federal money they would need a job that pays $21+/hr to make more money than they would on unemployment. When the federal money was $600 that figure was $24.50/hr. People are in no hurry to rush back to the workforce because they know the jobs will still be there when they blow thru their benefits.
There is a major truck driver shortage right now. That much is true. I work for a transportation compliance company, and if I'm correct, my supervisor recently said there is a about a shortage of about 10,000 drivers. I could be remembering what she said wrong.
I know something about the pipeline. What the trucks and rail cars do is move the oil from one unfinished end across the gap to the other end where the pipeline takes off again. To move the heavy crude, it is mixed with dhesil in Canada and put in the pipeline to somewhere in Montana the the unfinished gap then to where it starts again. According to contract with the Canadian operation they get their deshil back this is a mess with or without a completed pipeline Even a bigger mess with the gap.
Let’s just hope that’s true in this case and it is more fear mongering. I fill up 3 times a week in the summer and earn triple of any other time of the year. No gas would be crippling.
******************While shortages of various items have been a bit of a theme during the pandemic, the reasons (aside from COVID itself) have sometimes been different. Personal hoarding affected our ability to buy toilet paper and yeast last year, changes in travel are affecting availability of rental cars, and semiconductor chips are in short supply because of silicon plant production changes. In yet another twist, this summer could see a shortage of gasoline because there aren't enough delivery drivers.
That's the word from CNN Business, which noted that the National Tank Truck Carriers (NTTC) trade group said around 20 to 25 percent of tank trucks will not be moving gasoline this summer because there aren't enough qualified drivers. It takes more training to drive a truckload of gasoline down the road than other cargo, and CNN said not every driver wants to take the required tests and get certified to move gasoline.
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The problem, as with so many shortages the world is facing in 2021, was partly set into motion early in the pandemic. That's when truck driver schools closed, for obvious reasons, but it means that there are simply fewer new drivers coming up now. And a NTTC representative told CNN that somewhere between 40,000 and 60,000 truck drivers are no longer able to drive because of a new federal program that identified their history of prior drug or alcohol violations, which went online in January 2020. Even with offers of higher pay, it appears there simply won't be enough drivers to get all of the gasoline in the U.S. where it needs to go this summer.
Combine that with an expected increase in road trip plans this summer (CNN said there are more hotel rooms being booked than airline tickets, implying more people will be driving instead of flying soon), and you have the potential for gas prices to spike when summer hits.
Electric-vehicle drivers, filling up their batteries with their cords, have found a better way, but even if you're not personally reliant on gasoline for your car, you may still feel a pinch this year. The California Farm Bureau says food processors are worried there won't be enough drivers to move goods from field to plant. In the food hauling business, too, the number of available drivers is somewhere between 25 and 35 percent lower than the companies would like to see, and it could get worse.
"We could be seeing a 50, up to 60 percent, need for drivers for this harvest season," the senior vice president of government affairs for the California Trucking Association, Eric Sauer, told AgAlert.
Signs All Point to a Gasoline Shortage This Summer, CNN Warns
Yes, now there's one more thing to worry about as a lack of qualified tanker-truck drivers starts to eat into gasoline supplies at stations.www.caranddriver.com
The left wants $10 a gallon gasoline, but never considers the consequences.
Yep... It doesn’t take a rocket surgeon to understand, but it does require intellectual honesty. (i.e. it’s obvious if people are willing to admit it)
so if you are sitting on a sizeable share hold of xom you bought for $30ish per share during covid and have already doubled up......keep holding for a triple up or take some profit? Guess I'm asking if this price increase will make stock price increase even more?
What happens when shit gets shut down for long periods of time and then slowly ramps back up, while need goes up? This was easy to predict and many knew this would come as we opened up more and more. When demand goes up and the supply isn’t there, this is what happens.
I’m not sure that’s necessarily a bad thing. There are a ton of dipshits with cdls that are a menace on the road. I’m not saying you or anyone you drive with, but that in general there are a LOT of bad truck drivers. I developed a pretty solid hatred for rock truck drivers while I would work for my dads oilfield company during the summers, during college. It was a joy when they got stuck as I could give them a nice little jar with that D6 dozer!
Out west it’s all cyanide leaching for gold, well nevada anyway. Do y’all do that? I know different metals have different extraction techniques? I do agree though, mining is a much bigger eye sore than oil and gas.
I made my mind up a long time ago that my life was not going to be controlled and degraded by bitterness. You ought to try it. Seriously. It will set you free.
Yea I get what you saying there. I've seen plenty of bad drivers out here but that testing is ridiculous.
CNN is literally nothing but propaganda anymore, but let's be clear on what is real and what is not real here: There is not now and will not be any "shortage" of gasoline in the U.S. Period. The supplies are in fact so ample that we are able to export 2-3 million barrels of crude oil every day.
The one smidgen of fact in that CNN piece, however, is that there is a "shortage" of qualified truck drivers, for a variety of reasons. That shortage of drivers could and likely will create isolated, temporary disruptions in the distribution network for gasoline in some parts of the country this summer.
If CNN still had any real journalists on staff, that is how this overly-sensationalist story would have been reported.
The one smidgen of fact in that CNN piece, however, is that there is a "shortage" of qualified truck drivers, for a variety of reasons. That shortage of drivers could and likely will create isolated, temporary disruptions in the distribution network for gasoline in some parts of the country this summer.
If CNN still had any real journalists on staff, that is how this overly-sensationalist story would have been reported.
It’s hard to appreciate “truthful news” after listening to the toxicity of FOX News
One of the most accurate and prophetic lines ever.
Way more thorough. Used to be do a walk around and check connections, air brake test and stuff that you can see and pop the hood and check there but now they want you to do way more. Too much to even remember really.
You should watch FOX when we have Democrat as President then. The world is about to end every day. That is how news works now, on both sides. Better for ratings.
Crude is only picked up by trucks at my oil wells and then taken to storage facilities to go in pipelines.
That's an uninformed view point, my wife's parents drove an expedite truck for a while as a team until health was a concern. They saw amazing things and have photo albums like encyclopedias from 49 of the 50 states. I know expedite is a little different relative to the discussion but can't lump all that together.
Are you under the impression that gas prices are rising because of anything other than simple supply and demand issues stemming from the pandemic and now reopening?
It's very simple. Demand went down during the pandemic, now rapidly going back up because we are reopening
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