Steve Sarkisian
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It takes time to build a culture...especially when the culture the past 10+ years has been losing and finding ways to lose. It hasn't been pretty...but we are learning to win at all cost. How many times the past few years have we had the game on the line like TCU (yes it shoulda coulda woulda been in a blow out) and we hit the 3rd and 12 to Mitchell to ice the game? Usually we lose that game.. Dont get the 3rd ..punt..tcu scores and we lose. Same with K State...We are learning how to WIN and that gentlemen is contagious. Eventually after learning how to win..you learn how to DOMINATE and KILL. Thats the next step.
winning is winning. Ask TCU last year if they cared how they won. Yes they got curb stomped in the National Title game but they made it to the playoffs, and won a playoff game. Winning is winning.
coming from a fan base that has been killed spirtually so many times the past 10 years, i just figured we'd be a little more happy this season.
I personally have had more fun this season than any since 09. Its been a heart attack every game..but its sooooooooooo much more fun to be on the winning side of those heart attack games than be the ones going home on the losing foot.
Call it a optimistic approach. A fool settling for mediocracy ( which i don't agree with) but ill take 9-1 thus far every day no matter the scores.
LEADS! As in multiple times. That’s a problem that will bite us sooner or later if we don’t fix that.
AND you cant take away the fact he's one of 3 coaches who can claim that statistic...
stats never lie.
Beginning of the year..if i said..NO MATTER THE SCORE. Texas is 9-1 with 2 games to go. EVERYONE on this board says sign me up.
Im sure ppl said the same thing about TCU last year...yet they kept winning
we've said the same thing..what..every game since the OU game lol? Yet we still keeping winning.
Here is the thing. A couple years ago when we were 5-7 anytime it was pointed out that a lot of good things happens. The response always was “doesn’t matter we were 5-7”. So if that was you two years ago. You can’t be like “ok we’re 9-1 but”. Can’t have it both ways.
i disagree because this time around we ARE WINNING. Good things can happen in a 5-7 year but you arnt winning. You start getting used to losing. Its contagious. Like winning is contagious. 9-1 regardless of how you look at it , it's 9-1.
bobby bowden once said
first, you lose big
then you lose close
then you win close (we are here)
then you win big
first, you lose big
then you lose close
then you win close (we are here)
then you win big
Right. My point is if you were one of the people poo poo’ing all the good 2 years ago because of the 5-7 record You can’t be one of the people “yeah but” 9-1.
The truth is while things haven’t been perfect this year. Yeah we’ve had some good luck, but you gotta have things break your way to win sometimes.
Things break your way...you win..then you figure out how to cut throats and step on them when it matters.
Hookem brother
I think a lot of Sark’s problems have stemmed from having an inexperienced QB. That’s why I’m hoping Quinn comes back next year and gives Arch a little more time to develop. I’m tired of running out freshmen QBs. You win championships with experience and especially at the QB position.
I love the fact that we’re 9-1 and I agree we’re winning games that we would have lost the last few years but it pisses me off that I’m having to settle for “small victories”.
The difference is we’re not TCU. Our standard doesn’t need to be “well at least we held on to win”.
We’re a freaking Blue Blood in college football and we need to act like it. You think Saban would be going on TV and saying “well at least we won”? Hell no! He’d have his team running sprints and doing bear crawls til they puked and telling the media to cut out the BS rat poison.
but we arnt. Thats your issue...its the mindset..WE HAVENT BEEN THAT BLUE BLOOD...we are learning how to become it again. Thats just fact. It was a culture issue...we we're losers...we are becoming winners..at all cost..no matter the score. It took me years to understand and come to terms with this..
Yeah I think young QBs are just kind of the way college football is now. For the most part you aren’t going to get guys to sit a couple years. So your back up, or next guy is always going to be a freshman or sophomore.
The problem is-- we are using a metric from the past (how to build a winning team) as our measuring stick for the current state of our program--- all the while, there's been a massive shift in the way college football conducts its business.
How do I explain this-----
Little kids (like I used to be) grow up with a few things in our lives. Kids now grow up with millions of things in their lives. Whether rich or poor, you have a line of influence to the outside world.
When I was a kid you had the television. But you could only watch what THEY were playing in the TV. Now, you can watch anything your mind can imagine via your phone and the internet.
So our options were limited back then. Sure, the occasional Notre Dame vs Michigan game was on. Or Georgia vs Alabama etc. But every weekend it was "Texas vs X or Texas A&M vs Y".
So as a kid you fell in love with what you saw with your limited scope.
Then when you got to college, you basically knew you were stuck there. You HAD to buy in. If you left, you were giving up 1 sometimes 2 years of your life if you bounced. It forced you to commit.
That's not the case now. Kids aren't loyal. There's no love for where they play. Make no mistake, every single 4 and 5 star recruit (and even a number of 3 stars) think they are destined to be in the NFL.
Why?
Because the media, the internet and their chirping, tweeting, mollycoddling hangers on possey, have convinced them that they are special. A special snowflake. This is the 1960s-70s-80s version of what Disney movies about princesses did to women of that era.
"You're all a Princess. And one day your Prince will come." <--- Thanks Walt.
The reality is, the majority of women are straight up witches living in fantasy land. The same goes for the majority of college football recruits. Fantasy land.
So going off to college is now a business decision for the majority of them. Not a "love" choice. Or a "loyalty" choice. Or even a "buy in" choice. It's a business decision.
1. Where am I going to get paid and how much?
2. If I don't play year 1, who will continue to pay me based on my potential.
3. Where can I play the earliest so I can get paid more?
4. Who is going to get me to the NFL?
5. If I don't get to play soon and stop getting paid, where can I transfer to that still thinks I have value so I can continue to get paid?
You see "loyalty" in that thought process? You see "love" or "commitment" in that thought process?
Sure, there's kids that buy in. No doubt. But those are the kids that are playing, getting paid, winning (which improves their draft chances and status), and have social media clout.
The minute you start taking or threatening any of those factors above-- that love, that loyalty and that buy in, are GONE.
Building a team around a culture, around a family, around a shared respect for an institution and its values-- are gone. Dead. Bye bye. That was the fvcking beauty of college football for over a hundred years. It's what made college football the greatest sport ever invented.
Now, like everything else, it's about the money.
How do I explain this-----
Little kids (like I used to be) grow up with a few things in our lives. Kids now grow up with millions of things in their lives. Whether rich or poor, you have a line of influence to the outside world.
When I was a kid you had the television. But you could only watch what THEY were playing in the TV. Now, you can watch anything your mind can imagine via your phone and the internet.
So our options were limited back then. Sure, the occasional Notre Dame vs Michigan game was on. Or Georgia vs Alabama etc. But every weekend it was "Texas vs X or Texas A&M vs Y".
So as a kid you fell in love with what you saw with your limited scope.
Then when you got to college, you basically knew you were stuck there. You HAD to buy in. If you left, you were giving up 1 sometimes 2 years of your life if you bounced. It forced you to commit.
That's not the case now. Kids aren't loyal. There's no love for where they play. Make no mistake, every single 4 and 5 star recruit (and even a number of 3 stars) think they are destined to be in the NFL.
Why?
Because the media, the internet and their chirping, tweeting, mollycoddling hangers on possey, have convinced them that they are special. A special snowflake. This is the 1960s-70s-80s version of what Disney movies about princesses did to women of that era.
"You're all a Princess. And one day your Prince will come." <--- Thanks Walt.
The reality is, the majority of women are straight up witches living in fantasy land. The same goes for the majority of college football recruits. Fantasy land.
So going off to college is now a business decision for the majority of them. Not a "love" choice. Or a "loyalty" choice. Or even a "buy in" choice. It's a business decision.
1. Where am I going to get paid and how much?
2. If I don't play year 1, who will continue to pay me based on my potential.
3. Where can I play the earliest so I can get paid more?
4. Who is going to get me to the NFL?
5. If I don't get to play soon and stop getting paid, where can I transfer to that still thinks I have value so I can continue to get paid?
You see "loyalty" in that thought process? You see "love" or "commitment" in that thought process?
Sure, there's kids that buy in. No doubt. But those are the kids that are playing, getting paid, winning (which improves their draft chances and status), and have social media clout.
The minute you start taking or threatening any of those factors above-- that love, that loyalty and that buy in, are GONE.
Building a team around a culture, around a family, around a shared respect for an institution and its values-- are gone. Dead. Bye bye. That was the fvcking beauty of college football for over a hundred years. It's what made college football the greatest sport ever invented.
Now, like everything else, it's about the money.
Slow your roll 777...it is extremely hard fore to take ANY comment from 722 seriously when he was making stupid beyond belief comments in the game thread .....i.e....fire Sark now!...
I think the landscape of college football has changed and there is more parity than there's ever been because of the transfer portal and NIL. This is why you're not seeing as many blowouts in conference games.
To me, college football is better the way it is right now. I hated the days when you knew exactly who was going to be playing in the national championship after week 1 was over. This is the year where I think anybody inside the top 15 could beat each other on any given day.
To me, college football is better the way it is right now. I hated the days when you knew exactly who was going to be playing in the national championship after week 1 was over. This is the year where I think anybody inside the top 15 could beat each other on any given day.
Make sure you learn how to spell for before you call somebody stupid next time....
That's all you've got? I spell fine. I do fat finger type on a phone.....but you still made a stupid comment
If only that game in Dallas had gone different but let’s not compare Sark to anyone legendary at this point of his career
Blowing second half leads has been a staple of Sark . It’s either he can’t adjust to the other’s adjustments or his strategy is to stay conservative like Tom Herman . Either way it doesn’t impress from a style point or dominate performance but one of hope and pray time runs out on the clock.
Sark is Riley Lite imo.Riley could blow a lead at OU like nobody's business. The playoff game between OU and Georgia was as close to a NC as Riley was going to sniff at OU. One thing Sark knows though which Riley can't grasp is you need some semblance of a defense, you can't just outscore everyone with your offense. Riley's a more creative OC than Sark but not as good a HC imo.Just my .02
I agree that things have played out pretty accurately as you described. However, these two young coaches are still early in their HC careers. Things are still unfolding for them. I would give a couple of more years to fully evaluate what they have learned, applied and decision making with respect to their program.
Sark is recruiting at a higher level than LR ever did. LR never had a top 5 class in his time at OU and his last 2 classes finished just outside the top 10. Could be a little bit of the reason for the down year last season.
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