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TCU, going to be left out again...

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Well, I have been checking the ridiculous politically motivated scenarios for the playoff and everyone excludes TCU. Even if TCU beats OU, TCU is left out. Is this correct? I understand TCU will have 2 losses but MANY of the other teams do as well. For me, I love this. I want as many toes stepped on as possible. I think the playoff should go through the conferences alone and until this happens, I want as much turmoil as possible.
 
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I want as much turmoil and controversy as possible as well. The playoff should be eight teams and the more people who clamor that the current set up isn't fair the better for getting it increased to eight teams.
 
Tcu can't get it. They will end up likely in dallas playing UCF in the cotton bowl either way.
 
TCU fixing to get dealt with in the CCG

You better hope so or the whole point of a "championship" game will be for naught.

Ive never been in favor of it with only 10 teams. Its redundant and is guaranteed to be a rematch.

TOSU got into the final 4 without playing in their title game, and Bama might this year.

Total hypocrisy. TCU should have been in the playoffs a few years ago but the excuse was they didn't play a title game.
 
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Tcu can't get it. They will end up likely in dallas playing UCF in the cotton bowl either way.
No way in hell the CB would invite those two teams. They'd have like 12 people in the stands, and only about twice that many TV viewers.
 
No way in hell the CB would invite those two teams. They'd have like 12 people in the stands, and only about twice that many TV viewers.
That's part of the reason TCU has zero percent chance of making the playoff unless undefeated. Generic brands don't get the benefit of the doubt for a reason. Other than the obvious 2, every other BIG12 team is in the same boat.
 
That's part of the reason TCU has zero percent chance of making the playoff unless undefeated. Generic brands don't get the benefit of the doubt for a reason. Other than the obvious 2, every other BIG12 team is in the same boat.
I believe the playoff is required to take the top 4 teams, regardless of brand. The other New Years Six bowls have some input into who they take. After getting stuck with W. Michigan last year, there's no way the Cotton Bowl would accept a TCU vs. UCF match up. In fact, TCU probably gets left out of the NY6 bowls altogether.
 
That's part of the reason TCU has zero percent chance of making the playoff unless undefeated. Generic brands don't get the benefit of the doubt for a reason. Other than the obvious 2, every other BIG12 team is in the same boat.

While I won't deny that I like the advantage we have, I don't think it's fair or likely to stay. The priveledge to play in the playoff should go to the legitimate conf champs.
 
I believe the playoff is required to take the top 4 teams, regardless of brand. The other New Years Six bowls have some input into who they take. After getting stuck with W. Michigan last year, there's no way the Cotton Bowl would accept a TCU vs. UCF match up. In fact, TCU probably gets left out of the NY6 bowls altogether.

Nah, TCU will get a major bowl game even if they lose to 0U.
 
Nah, TCU will get a major bowl game even if they lose to 0U.
Why? TCU can't even fill their own stadium, much less Jerry World (Cotton Bowl would make two games in a row there, after the Big XII title game). Plus, they're TV ratings death. I can't fathom why any major bowl would take them when other available teams include Miami/Clemson loser, Ohio State/Wisconsin loser, Georgia/Auburn loser, USC, Alabama, Washington, Penn State, and Notre Dame.

TCU is likely headed to San Antonio if they finish 10-3.
 
Why? TCU can't even fill their own stadium, much less Jerry World (Cotton Bowl would make two games in a row there, after the Big XII title game). Plus, they're TV ratings death. I can't fathom why any major bowl would take them when other available teams include Miami/Clemson loser, Ohio State/Wisconsin loser, Georgia/Auburn loser, USC, Alabama, Washington, Penn State, and Notre Dame.

TCU is likely headed to San Antonio if they finish 10-3..

They'll do better than the Alamo Bowl. Watch the bowl matchups. They won't end up there.
 
They'll do better than the Alamo Bowl. Watch the bowl matchups. They won't end up there.
Anything is possible, but I see no rationale for a major bowl to pass on any of the teams I mentioned for a team with no fan base, that nobody would tune in to watch on TV.
 
Did you happen to catch the Rose Bowl game a few years back when TCU was in it? ;)
Yes, I did. Back when TCU was the highest rated mid-major team and one unfortunate BCS bowl was going to be REQUIRED to take them. This year, that team, which one of the NY6 bowls will reluctantly have to invite, will be the winner of Memphis/UCF.
 
As long as TCU doesn't embarrass themselves against OK they're in. Two losses to a Heisman winning, playoff team, is credible they'll make it.

And in regards to UCF in the Cotton Bowl. Not gonna happen. The CB took the non P5 qualifier last year. It somebody's else's turn now.
 
As long as TCU doesn't embarrass themselves against OK they're in. Two losses to a Heisman winning, playoff team, is credible they'll make it.
What are you basing that on? Not trying to be a smart ass, I just can't grasp why any NY6 game would take TCU over a team like Washington or Notre Dame, who would provide dramatically better TV ratings, and probably bring more fans to the game too.
 
What are you basing that on? Not trying to be a smart ass, I just can't grasp why any NY6 game would take TCU over a team like Washington or Notre Dame, who would provide dramatically better TV ratings, and probably bring more fans to the game too.


Because you have to be ranked in the top 12 that's why!!!!! Don't you know what they're basing it on? And Clemson and Oregon come from small population states but they were still invited. Oh btw TCU is from Texas the second most populated state!!!! Plenty of people in Texas, not just TCU fans will tune in to watch.
 
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I believe the playoff is required to take the top 4 teams, regardless of brand. The other New Years Six bowls have some input into who they take. After getting stuck with W. Michigan last year, there's no way the Cotton Bowl would accept a TCU vs. UCF match up. In fact, TCU probably gets left out of the NY6 bowls altogether.

Sigh apparently you didn't know that they alternate who takes the non P5 school. The Rose Bowl won't take them. That means the other 5 alternate. In order its been Fiesta, Peach, and Cotton. That leaves the Sugar, and Orange Bowls. The Sugar has a playoff game this year so the Orange Bowl takes them this year. And if that non P5 team is UCF it could work fine for the OB.
 
Because you have to be ranked in the top 12 that's why!!!!! Don't you know what they're basing it on? And Clemson and Oregon come from small population states but they were still invited. Oh btw TCU is from Texas the second most populated state!!!! Plenty of people in Texas, not just TCU fans will tune in to watch.
If TCU has a hard time filling their own small stadium, they're not going to bring many to Jerry World, especially playing there for the 2nd time in a month. Population of the states that the schools are located in are irrelevant, as you pointed out with Clemson and Oregon, both of whom have rabid followings (unlike TCU). If state population were relevant, bowls would be clamoring to get UCF and San Diego State, which they're not

And I don't think you're right about NY6 bowls being REQUIRED to take Power 5 teams in the Top 12, unless that's new this year. Last year, Oklahoma State and Colorado were both in the Top 12 and played in the Alamo Bowl, while Auburn made the Sugar Bowl at #14 because they have a bigger following.
 
Sigh apparently you didn't know that they alternate who takes the non P5 school. The Rose Bowl won't take them. That means the other 5 alternate. In order its been Fiesta, Peach, and Cotton. That leaves the Sugar, and Orange Bowls. The Sugar has a playoff game this year so the Orange Bowl takes them this year. And if that non P5 team is UCF it could work fine for the OB.
All the projections show UCF in the Peach Bowl. But either way, they won't play against TCU in the Cotton Bowl, if TCU were to end up there.
 
Like I said, TCU wasn't making a NY6 bowl unless they had beaten OU.
 
The CCG is going to hurt someone every year. Either the #1 team gets beat and is out of the playoffs, or the #2 team gets an extra loss and loses the chance at a New Years day game. This idea was just plain dumb. It was all about money and nothing else. It was fine with 12 teams, but with 10 it's just stupid. Also as to TCU getting screwed, they didn't play anyone OOC. At least we are playing one tough matchup every year. If we ever get our shit together, there won't be any doubt. We'd have already had that extra data point. And BTW, TCU LOST to Baylor head to head. If anyone deserved to go it was Baylor. Beating Minnesota should not have meant anything. That's a bit whoopi
 
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