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Tom Herman is not a Hoax

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He is a very good coach, and I think he will get things corrected. I also thought that about Charlie but lets not open that can of worms. Herman knew what he was getting into, but it's one thing to know you will be under pressure from day one, be under a microscope and have to please a very demanding fan base. But knowing what your going to have to deal with it and actually having to do it are two different things. This is Herman's first time under this amount of pressure and I think it taking a toll, look at his last press conference after the game, he seemed dazed, somewhat lost and I couldn't tell is he was mad or just hurt at the loss. The talent level at UT is not what it seems, especially on the line. BOTH SIDES. That's where games are won, and we don't have that talent right now, and next year will be just as bad. As for the offense, this is where blame is being places totally on Beck, which is not fair. This is Herman's offense, this is what he wants to run. Giving him a pass and placing the blame totally on Beck is not right. As for injuries, everyone has them. No excuses there, sorry. UT should have had adequate backups. SO before declaring past recruiting classes under Charlie as great, look at the on the field production. One thing that puzzles me is what Herman said about his offense at his presser " it’s hard to evaluate because you still don’t know who the key pieces of this offense are currently.” Its been a full season and you still don't know who the key pieces are? REALLY? Maybe that sums up the season. The defense grew into a very good unit, the O, well that rests at Herman door.
 
I can assure you, this morning Herman awoke, looked at his wife, looked at his house, checked his bank of America account on his phone, rolled over in bed, looked out of his big bay window at the lake and said to himself, "is this REALLY worth it?".

This is the definition of being in over your head.
 
He is not the one.....

Hook'em

Tell us who is "the one", FB. Be realistic. DKR ain't coming back and Saban to Texas isn't realistic now, so who is the flawless coach that FlourBluffHorn would hire to turn the Texas football program around and win the national championship every year? I know you would get the hire right and you would hit a homerun with your hire. Please do tell me who that coach is.
 
"Injuries...everyone has them. It's not an excuse"

I can't stand this. No, not everyone loses their QB. No, not everyone loses starting OL. Not everyone loses a AA RB, etc, etc. Obviously Texas didn't have all that.

Texas O had a lot of injuries to deal with. That is not the norm. Players need to be coached up for sure, but answer this. How many injuries did the defense have to deal with?
 
A lot of criticism of Herman is built up frustration from several frustrating seasons. Although he's earned quite a bit. He's got next season for sure to correct some issues. But a similar performance and he's likely toast. If there is a clear #1 QB next August that would be a great start in itself.
 
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Tell us who is "the one", FB. Be realistic. DKR ain't coming back and Saban to Texas isn't realistic now, so who is the flawless coach that FlourBluffHorn would hire to turn the Texas football program around and win the national championship every year? I know you would get the hire right and you would hit a homerun with your hire. Please do tell me who that coach is.
If I were looking for a coach I’d find a guy in the Mack Brown mold. A guy with sevreal years of expierence either at a mid major or a mid tier power 5 school. These yearly hot names rarely work out. As good a coach as I think Scott Frost will be he wouldn’t be near the top of my list. Just for fun this would be my list.

Gus Malzahn-always been a fan always felt like he would dominate at Texas.
Dan Mullen- great job at Miss State. Ready for a big job
Pat Fitzgerald- he has a pretty sweet gig but he’s a great coach if he had a desire to chase a national title in the 2nd half of his career he’s worth a call.

There are a few other guys I’d call that probably wouldn’t come but I’d call. Point being a lot of these coaches that are the hot name don’t really have more than a couple years of expierence as a HC under their belt. You really don’t know what kind of coach your getting. You are hoping what you’ve seen will carry over to your program
 
If I were looking for a coach I’d find a guy in the Mack Brown mold. A guy with sevreal years of expierence either at a mid major or a mid tier power 5 school. These yearly hot names rarely work out. As good a coach as I think Scott Frost will be he wouldn’t be near the top of my list. Just for fun this would be my list.

Gus Malzahn-always been a fan always felt like he would dominate at Texas.
Dan Mullen- great job at Miss State. Ready for a big job
Pat Fitzgerald- he has a pretty sweet gig but he’s a great coach if he had a desire to chase a national title in the 2nd half of his career he’s worth a call.

There are a few other guys I’d call that probably wouldn’t come but I’d call. Point being a lot of these coaches that are the hot name don’t really have more than a couple years of expierence as a HC under their belt. You really don’t know what kind of coach your getting. You are hoping what you’ve seen will carry over to your program

Can't argue with any of those coaches you've listed. I curious as to what coach FB would hire. I'm thinking it would be DKR. =)roll
 
Can't argue with any of those coaches you've listed. I curious as to what coach FB would hire. I'm thinking it would be DKR. =)roll
Gus Malzahn is an intense coach in the sidelines. He fires his team up. It’s fun to watch. He’s also great at responding to adversity.
 
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There is not one yet MM to be honest ,we got to keep looking, what we got are just fill in coaches for now its sad that a big Uni like Texas has to be in this shape maybe soon our savior will come
How'em
 
There is not one yet MM to be honest ,we got to keep looking, what we got are just fill in coaches for now its sad that a big Uni like Texas has to be in this shape maybe soon our savior will come
How'em

You criticize every hire made. Come on, FB man up and say who you would hire to put Texas back on the map. You seem to think you've got the coach hiring thing figured out. Enlighten me.
 
Can't argue with any of those coaches you've listed. I curious as to what coach FB would hire. I'm thinking it would be DKR. =)roll
Forgot to put Justin Fuente down. He’s had a pretty nice 6 year run at Memphis and Va Tech. Worked for Gary Patterson. He’d probably be #2 behind Malzahn for me.
 
I'm a big fan of Gus Malzahn as well. I think he would be a great fit at a place like Texas. I think Dabo Swinney is another one who could win here, of course if he ever leaves Clemson, it's straight to Tuscaloosa....
 
How is it that some on the board were willing to give CS 4 years or more but TH can't even get out the 1st year. Who made these fans so impatient? Last I remember we had MB for 15 years. Just weird in my opinion.

Don't get me wrong LD. I was just offering names of coaches I like. For the record, I think Herman ought to get at least 3 years. Since I am not a fan of coaching instability, I think we ought to give him 5 or 6 years to see what he can do with a steady rotation of his players. It's just that as a history professor, I hate to see a coach not learn from history. Charlie stood by his completely ineffective O-Coordinator and now Herman is in the same position. Will he make the same mistake? I reckon we're about to find out...
 
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Don't get me wrong LD. I was just offering names of coaches I like. For the record, I think Herman ought to get at least 3 years. Since I am not a fan of coaching instability, I think we ought to give him 5 or 6 years to see what he can do with a steady rotation of his players. It's just that as a history professor, I hate to see a coach not learn from history. Charlie stood by his completely ineffective O-Coordinator and now Herman is in the same position. Will he make the same mistake? I reckon we're about to find out...

We'll probably see a change but I wasn't expecting to see a switch during the season. It didn't work for CS making changes during the season as well. Maybe TH did learn from CS mistakes. If TH is as smart as people say he is he'll be evaluating all phases of his coaches and make necessary changes then.
 
We'll probably see a change but I wasn't expecting to see a switch during the season. It didn't work for CS making changes during the season as well. Maybe TH did learn from CS mistakes. If TH is as smart as people say he is he'll be evaluating all phases of his coaches and make necessary changes then.
Actually the change mid season did work out for Charlie. It got him a win against OU which probably bought him another year. I don’t think Herman should of fired Beck mid year but for sure should of taken over the play calling.
 
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Actually the change mid season did work out for Charlie. It got him a win against OU which probably bought him another year. I don’t think Herman should of fired Beck mid year but for sure should of taken over the play calling.

He made a change at D as well but all that got him was a loss at Kansas.
 
He made a change at D as well but all that got him was a loss at Kansas.
The D gave up fewer points in that game than they gave up to Kansas this year. No doubt the loss to Kansas did him in, but him taking over the D was a postive not a negative. If he had done it sooner he very well might be the HC right now.
 
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"Injuries...everyone has them. It's not an excuse"

I can't stand this. No, not everyone loses their QB. No, not everyone loses starting OL. Not everyone loses a AA RB, etc, etc. Obviously Texas didn't have all that.

Texas O had a lot of injuries to deal with. That is not the norm. Players need to be coached up for sure, but answer this. How many injuries did the defense have to deal with?
This is exactly what Strong had to deal with in his first year.
Got rid of 9 players (majority of them would have been major contributers).
QB Ash was hurt early
C Espanola (I think that was his name) got hurt
Other OL were hurt.
RB Big back Burg was kicked off the team.
Defense was thin, especially at DB. Remember Haines lol.
Strong should have had 4 years but was cut short. I think Herman should get 4 years as well because he is dealing with the same situation as Strong but a better Defense and a AA Punter. Just be patient everyone. I hope Herman is proactive with dealing with the OL. Hit up the Jucos
 
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