Do I overrate A&M recruits?
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That is the point...they keep telling us they are contending for the top spot in the conference so they should be up for every game. The talent should be there already if you read websider or even Ketch.
Now if aggy is willing to admit that they are a middle of the pack also ran of the big twelve south then I will spot them the fact that it is tough to get up for most games. Knowing before the game even starts that you stand less than a 50/50 chance of winning each game is bound to be difficult on the players and thus the overall development of the players.
Until they admit they are not in the same league as the elite teams...well even the average teams in the big twelve...then why should we hold them to a lower standard then they hold themselves? Besides it is a lot more fun to make fun of them when they are truly shocked that they only win 7 games a year despite all that talent they have.
Ketch--- To what do you attribute the 180 turn around in teams & recruiting in the last 10-15 year period? What did RC do so right in his glory years? Was it mostly because we had coach wine & cheese and McWilliams? When Mack came, did RC's fall begin?
I think it helps to have some parameters for this question
What are reasonable expectations for a recruit who is top 5, 10 or 50? I'm not sure I know the answer to that. Its the kind of thing we seem to just consider on the fly.
Do you overrate them? In a manner, yes - but it has a lot more to do with external factors and the nature of recruiting lists than it does you.
The fact is that aggy has done terribly from an attrition/bust standpoint. Any recruit that leaves the program after a year or two is going to be overrated no matter how high or low he is on your top 100. They've had a lot of those.
Secondly, the guys that have been good players for them have been a bit underrated at times. But again we get to the question of what are reasonable expectations for where guys are rated.
Guys like Jason Glenn, Ron Edwards, Robert Ferguson (maybe right because of grades), Sammy Davis, Terrance Kiel and Jaxon Appel (I don't think he's great but he might be a bit better than #38) were probably a bit underrated. Obviously you were spot on with guys like McNeal and Ty Warren.
Thirdly, the guys you did overrate were the same guys that everyone else overrated. I'm trying to think of a specific guy of theirs that you had jacked up way above the norm and I'm coming up blank. Again - good job by you and from what I can tell your accuracy regarding their recruits appears to be trending towards more accurate as time goes on - but I don't think you overrate them relative to other recruiting analysts.
Seriously though, what does a top 5, 10 or whatever type player have to do to either meet or exceed expectations?
Well, it's well-documented how Sherrill did so well. Akers's recruiting was sucking wind the latter part of his years here while $herrill'$ was cranking up. RC benefitted by our suckage. Unfortunately he failed to build on it throughout the mid-90's and then Brown turned it around in the span of 6 weeks from the time he was hired to his first class.
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Originally posted by RunRickyRun:
Yep! You're just Max Emfinger with a better haircut./images/smilie2.gifOriginally posted by Ketchumo I overrate A&M recruits?
Does that count as a haircut?
Seriously,
Ketch & Company do the best job out there of overall evaluation of talent (IMHO) but as these 'look backs' show, there are other factors involved as well.
Still, for all of Mack's critics who claim he 'doesn't develop talent', FlimFlam is setting a whole new standard of 'getting less out of more'.
Scholes... All I could think about man when I started reading Ketch's post was "THE FLOOD IS COMING!" Hell I was actually stupid enough to believe the Aggie hype. I remember thinking, "Damn they may ressurect the wrecking crew. Those kids must be really good, and if I have to listen to Aggies talking about maroon floods for four years I'm gonna hang myself." OH WELL, guess I dodged that bullet! (or rope)
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Yes you do , but please don't let them know, because they
would really be whinning then. Really you could look at it, and
say they've had crappy coaching, yeah that sounds better.
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would really be whinning then. Really you could look at it, and
say they've had crappy coaching, yeah that sounds better.
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Hey Ketch-- According to the NFL Scouts -- It seems like they think the better talent is at A&M if u look at recent NFL Drafts. Since these NFL guys are "experts" at what they do-- then I guess they do have better talent then Texas does.
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SLC_Horn,
I think the Aggie players know in their heart that they must upset the good teams to win but it would be very unAggie-like to admit the truth.
They have to believe that the Twelfth Man will win for them. As long as they believe that BS we won't have to worry about them.
I think the Aggie players know in their heart that they must upset the good teams to win but it would be very unAggie-like to admit the truth.
They have to believe that the Twelfth Man will win for them. As long as they believe that BS we won't have to worry about them.
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