Can somebody smarter than me explain how that works? Because I don't buy it.
Aggy ducks Tech in Houston
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What's done is done. I hope
that the Raiders pull the upset and beat LSU. It's certain to be a high scoring game o/u at least 80. One thing about bowl games life this. It always comes down to who wants it more.
I really want OSU to win this one. But this could be the Big XII's toughest match up vs the SEC. Did anyone notice that last month MS went from being unranked to number 22 without even playng a game? True story. My man Jeff said they were the best three loss team in the country. That's like finishing third in the lottery. I really want the Big XII stick it to MS for the second straight year.
Everyone remember what Bret Bielema said about hs fb and coaches in TX. Because of that this one is personal for me. I hope the sob never wins another game. This was another matchup that I'm convinced the SEC orchestrated. Go cats.
Do you realize just how unscrupulous the SEC is when it comes to fb? Not just bowl match ups but everything. Look at a&m's history when they've won big. And when you think about that look at it this way. a&m and the SEC deserve each other.
that the Raiders pull the upset and beat LSU. It's certain to be a high scoring game o/u at least 80. One thing about bowl games life this. It always comes down to who wants it more.
I really want OSU to win this one. But this could be the Big XII's toughest match up vs the SEC. Did anyone notice that last month MS went from being unranked to number 22 without even playng a game? True story. My man Jeff said they were the best three loss team in the country. That's like finishing third in the lottery. I really want the Big XII stick it to MS for the second straight year.
Everyone remember what Bret Bielema said about hs fb and coaches in TX. Because of that this one is personal for me. I hope the sob never wins another game. This was another matchup that I'm convinced the SEC orchestrated. Go cats.
Do you realize just how unscrupulous the SEC is when it comes to fb? Not just bowl match ups but everything. Look at a&m's history when they've won big. And when you think about that look at it this way. a&m and the SEC deserve each other.
Oldschool cat---- allow me---
In the past the SEC struggled with credibility. I remember a 13-0 Tommy Tuberville coached Auburn team that was snubbed for a 12-0 OU team as well as a 12-0 USC team. USC decimated OU in the title game and Auburn squeaked by Va Tech. That was January of 2005. Almost 11 years ago to the day. The SEC lacked credibility. The center of the football universe revolved around 2 conferences-- the Big 12 and the Pac 10. Texas lost only one game that year to OU and went on to beat Michigan in the Rose bowl. There's NO WAY an undefeated SEC school would be bumped from the title game now--- just a short decade later. In that period of time the SEC knew it had to create a paradigm shift. The SEC had to gain a footbhold on two of the three big recruiting grounds in order to up their profile. Florida was doing a good job of locking down talent from their state, Bobby Bowden was having a tough time and Miami was foundering. They needed a strong hold on Texas or California. Cali was out because of it's geographical location so Texas was the only other option. The SEC had already reached out to Texas in the mid 90's and Texas said "thanks but no thanks" and so the SEC had to either develop a different strategy, or try the old one again. So they did. They reached out To Texas yet again and yet again they got the "thanks but no thanks". Then a few years later the SEC starts to trend up. Florida gets a kid named Tebow and their run starts. Around the same time a plan is put in place by Texas to start the Longhorn network. Obviously a&m gets mad about the parameters of the deal and that's when the SEC struck. They saw a HUGE fan base. They saw a HUGE recruiting pool. They saw everything they needed to keep this conference dominant for decades to come. They just needed to convince a&m that moving to their conference would alleviate all their pain and frustration they felt about Texas and the BIg 12.
Then the dominoes start to fall. Tom Osborne always voted against Texas joining the Big 8 because in his words "They'll run everything in a few years".He was right. Colorado had been relegated to an also ran and they looked tot he west. nebraska preferred it's midwestern cousins to the north--- and that left mizzu and aggy. Mizzu is the only team in that state so there's the draw for them. Aggy is still fuming over LHN and the SEC basically glad handed them into feeling like the SEC would be somewhere they could "escape the a$$holes from Austin." They basically wanted you, but wanted you to feel empowered, like they were doing you a favor because you'd earned it. In reality, YOU were doing them a favor. The bigwigs at Texas never thought a&m would leave so they let spite and pride blind them from what the SEC's intentions really were.
And then it happened.
Now what you have is a conference that has added 8 million more viewers and coaches that are able to openly walk into Texas and say to momma "now that the SEC is in Texas, your son can come to ____________ and you can watch him on TV every weekend." They couldn't say that before. And forget about the fact that you can dang near watch any team from anywhere in the country now---- alot of very poor inner city momma's don't know that. And where is there a HUGE chunk of talent in this state? Inner city kids. Now as further proof of the SEC propaganda machine running the show--- two years in a row they have sent a&m away from a game in their back yard to play a thousand miles away from home in a state with ZERO bluechip recruits. And even though a&m gets to recruit houston daily, just like when making a sales call, if you don't allow you competitor much face time with the client, it's more difficult for your competitor to steal your client. The LSU coaches now have free reign in Houston for 10-12 days. They will be on the news every night "Today the Red Raiders and the LSU tigers visited Cynthia MItchell Woodlands pavilion to go see a concert---- tomorrow they will be at Astroworld(whatever)" and the kids SEE it. They can go to the stadium and watch practice, they can hang out at the venues the teams will be visiting.... They get to do all this while you're stuck in Nashville recruiting------ nobody. It's like the successful business man traveling for work and the sneaky neighbor worms his way into your house and seduces your wife. An average LSU coach might get to spend a whole 3-5 days in Houston during any particular recruiting month. They will get to spend 3 times that in Houston without any aggy coach within 1000 miles.
But it's ok---- you'll be off doing battle with your arch rival the Louisville Cardinals. Competing in a state with the nearest Blue chipper being some kid named Ben Davis from Gordo, Alabama---- guess where's he'll probly end up.....
If you're cool with the SEC coming into Houston, a town that a&m has LIVED off of as far as recruiting is concerned, and scamming all your squirrel, then more power to you bro. But you're playing RIGHT into their hands.
Confusing.
I agree a loss to TT would hurt. I wouldn't say "a win vs either means little to nothing". A win is a win. And a win vs TT in Houston would be more of an off field win as well in recruiting battles. These bowl games don't mean much to the fan base, but they mean a ton to the teams and recruits.
More often than not, teams competing for the NC next year will be winning big in bowl games this year and building momentum which carries in to positive offseason workouts and on. I know Texas toppling Michigan had a ton of recruiting momentum for the next year and did wonders for the teams confidence leading in to offseason impromptu work outs and what led to beating USC in the following years NC.
I actually read you entire post. You do realize the team in the region that has slipped the most over those 11 years is not A&M. Guess who it is? If you are honest, you won't like the answer.
We may never match LSU or Alabama, as they are way ahead, but bragging about texas telling the SEC no thanks is crazy. Check texas recruiting vs a decade ago. Check wins and loses. No aggie with a brain is still upset about the LHN. It set us free. Deloss dodds should be an Aggie saint.
I don't disagree with some of what you say, I just don't think the SEC hurting other texas schools is a problem for us.
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$35M per win is impressive. I stand corrected.The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Hook 'em
clob.....I appreciate the post and it makes sense. However I disagree that being able to watch Alabama on TV is pulling a recruit out of HISD where he would have stayed in state. The bigs get the players, they always have.....and the current place to play if you're a kid in Texas is in the SEC or B12.
A&M going to the SEC could have marginally improved the recruiting for LSU, Bama, MSU, etc....but those kids were probably going there anyway.
I just remember seeing all of the Houston kids playing for LSU......back when I was in HS Okie Lite and LSU were robbing top talent left and right. And there weren't any Texas schools in the Big 8 or SEC.
A&M going to the SEC could have marginally improved the recruiting for LSU, Bama, MSU, etc....but those kids were probably going there anyway.
I just remember seeing all of the Houston kids playing for LSU......back when I was in HS Okie Lite and LSU were robbing top talent left and right. And there weren't any Texas schools in the Big 8 or SEC.
Great post, clob. The $EC peaked out about three years ago. Things ebb and flow, and the $EC is trending down from what it used to be. Right now, there is no dominant conference in CFB.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Hook 'em
Can you make the same chart showing the number of wins during that same period? Hook 'that
About the same as Texas getting a big name OC. Helicopters near the birthing center???? LMAO!!!!
You aggys are certainly free to avoid the Houston bowl and Big XII teams continually. Run away, run away...
OU and WVU say hello. I guess they are not Big 12 teams. Poor Scholz always telling a lie to make the story some sound better.
Aggy would beat Tech. Carson would be capable of doing the same thing Warren did just like Fournette will. You have to look at it by numbers. Aggy and LSU have good defenses. Tech doesn't do well against good defenses.
I think clob94 is right, aggy didn't duck Tech, the SEC just placed them somewhere else. It's better for the conference.
It's something to get them through the next few weeks with Jake Spavital firmly entrenched at OC. Happens every offseason.....(or crappy bowl season)
When did you play them? That's what I thought. You ducked us last year in the Houston bowl. You're ducking Tech this year. Liar and coward. Run away, run away.
Focus on 2006 and 2010. That's when we won and played for a natty.
Here's a graph of the number of aggy championship game appearances during that period. You're welcome.
Hook 'em
a&m playing WV is not the same, even you are smart enough to know that. WV didn't join the Big XII until Mizzou and you people left. There wasn't the same kind of emotion involved if you people had played one of the Texas schools. The SEC knew this off course and that's why they set this game up.
Looking back now you people and the SEC really punked out on not playing the worst Texas team in 50 years. A chance to beat us and gloat forever, and you still backed out.
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Lol - cling to that ignorance. Aggy is always gonna be aggy. You can pour chocolate on a turd but its still a turd. Truth is aggy couldnt beat 60% of the big 12. Funny how aggies say last year doesnt matter - the here and now matters when discussing the beat downs Texas put on Aggy. Yet when they need to look for a win the timeline is out the window. As bad as our Offense is right now i doubt aggy could hold us below 400 yds. Lol you tool.
Count how many drinks you have had. Tomorrow stop about 2 sooner lol.
Aggy couldnt beat tech. That is foolish. Tech would still put 40 on the board. LSU is a different story. Tech will be the best offense aggy has faced all year.
No. Tech has no chance. Unless LSU signs a form allowing Tech to put 16 defenders on the field at any one time. Even then it's dicey. LSU will prison rape Tech.
did I read that graphic that someone posted correctly? .....ATM is paying Spivitol $1.5 million per year?....for how long?...I thought coach swag was an offensive savant. They needed to bring in a guy for .$ 1.5 mill?.....and they are running sh@t on us????
When did you play them? That's what I thought. You ducked us last year in the Houston bowl. You're ducking Tech this year. Liar and coward. Run away, run away.
So just curious, who gets to pick first, LSU or A&M? LSU didn't want the Music City Bowl because they played there last year. Louisville is a better team than Tech is. We match up better against Tech. Louisville barely lost to Clemson and Florida State. Tech lost it's last 3 of 5 games and were blown out a few games. Their defense gave up 50+ points how many times? It must suck having so much time to think of stupid things to say because your season ended long ago.
