I am born and raised in Texas and a UT grad or Texas Ex if you will. I played HS ball and for some reason I always wonder why UT isn't the Ohio State of the south? Texas should dominate and have quality HCs with great staffs mentoring top 10 recruiting classes and plenty of future draft picks. Is it the too may cooks in the kitchen syndrome? Where did UT go wrong?
Am I wrong?
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Generally speaking, college football is very cyclical. Specifically with Texas, we had a great coach become ineffective, had a bad run of QB recruiting, and hired a new coach who bungled his assistant hires about as bad as he possibly could have.
(I answered your question as if it were genuine, but the tone makes me suspicious that you are trolling)
If you look back through history, it is damn hard to do what texas did from 2000-2009. Winning more games than any other program in that decade is a feat of epic proportion. If you look back at teams from the 40's, 50's, 60's and on through... You'll see teams like ND- alabama- OU- nebraska etc that won their decade. You've never seen a team do it two decades in a row. It just doesn't happen.
Michigan, Ohio State, Notre Dame --- Northern Blue Bloods
Bama, OU, Texas, LSU ---- Southern Blue Bloods
^^^^^and those are at the top of the list!
I guess they simply haven't won enough for you to compare to tOSU. Would it make you feel better if Texas claimed more titles like Bama? there are up to 11, but sensibly 5 that they could retroactively claim. They never will!
How long was Bama down before this latest run? 19-20 years?
Bama, OU, Texas, LSU ---- Southern Blue Bloods
^^^^^and those are at the top of the list!
I guess they simply haven't won enough for you to compare to tOSU. Would it make you feel better if Texas claimed more titles like Bama? there are up to 11, but sensibly 5 that they could retroactively claim. They never will!
How long was Bama down before this latest run? 19-20 years?
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Good points and its also been shown at each of these programs that none of them can rise above mediocre coaching. History is meaningless when you have the wrong coach. In Brown's case it just appeared that he got lethargic toward the end of his run and was living off his past. In Strong's case I just cant tell yet. It doesn't look like he's the right fit but a solid 2nd half of the season might turn things.
brown's biggest mistake wasn't complacency. had he been complacent, he wouldn't have tried switching offenses. THAT-- the switching of offenses-- without considering the necessity of personnel changes (types of players, is what i'm trying to say-- specifically o-linemen) was mack's big mistake. the defense, aside from some manny diaz hiccups, was still functioning moderately well. but we tried to play ground-and-pound with air-it-out players.
2000-2009, only 2 Big 12 titles? Bo and Woody battled over Big 10 titles. I guess they figured if they won their league and then won the Rose Bowl it (MNC) would just take care of itself? I know you get a trophy for league titles and before the CFP those were the only legit NCAA championships for D1 football. BCS and Bowl games gave their own trophies, but OSU and Bama are the only two NCAA D1 national champs.
Priorities has a lot to do with it. Ohio State and Alabama are more committed to winning big at football than most. That includes the school itself & boosters. They use their resources wisely, and don't get excited about moral superiority. Bama is not blowing tons of money on sports that don't require an oblong pigskin that no one pays to watch.
I would put Oklahoma in the same category, but with less resources and geographical advantages.
They want it more, and play for keeps. They want it as much as Ole Miss or Auburn, and have football resources similar to Texas. That is a hell of a combination. A&M is similar to Texas with less money, as bad as I hate it. It puts an artificial ceiling on your potential.
Or maybe they are just a lot smarter than everyone else, but I doubt it.
If their boosters get in a pissing contest with each other or the coach, they will cycle down. It happens.
I would put Oklahoma in the same category, but with less resources and geographical advantages.
They want it more, and play for keeps. They want it as much as Ole Miss or Auburn, and have football resources similar to Texas. That is a hell of a combination. A&M is similar to Texas with less money, as bad as I hate it. It puts an artificial ceiling on your potential.
Or maybe they are just a lot smarter than everyone else, but I doubt it.
If their boosters get in a pissing contest with each other or the coach, they will cycle down. It happens.
Every program has down times. Before Saban Alabama hadn't won a title since Bear Bryant
Texas was a dominant program under Mack for what 8-10 years? Then he got lazy on recruiting or whatever happened. The key is to not let the bottom fall out before you make a change. Sadly the boosters at Texas let the bottom fall out.
There is also a certain amount of Luck and right place right time. Jim Tressel wasn't in any danger of getting fired. Scandal breaks he takes the fall and urban Meyer happens to be available.
Texas was a dominant program under Mack for what 8-10 years? Then he got lazy on recruiting or whatever happened. The key is to not let the bottom fall out before you make a change. Sadly the boosters at Texas let the bottom fall out.
There is also a certain amount of Luck and right place right time. Jim Tressel wasn't in any danger of getting fired. Scandal breaks he takes the fall and urban Meyer happens to be available.
They won in 1992 under Aggie, Gene Stallings 13-0. After Hays, Bruce did pretty good and lost a Rose Bowl to USC in 1980 that would have won a MNC. Cooper took over and put kids in NFL, recruited great, but could not beat tsun. Tressell was great, but became a fall guy, then they got a Bruce protegee in Meyer.
Bo Schembechler never won a NC. As a matter of fact, Michigan has 1 NC in the last 68 years.
I know, yet the Michigan fans revered him for Big 10 titles and Rose Bowl loses. Sounds kinda like Big game Bob?
Ohio State really has been the model of continuity for the past 50 years. They really have never had a bad coach (I don't count the interim year with Fickell). Cooper and Bruce both won a lot of games and conference titles, just couldn't get the MNC.
