Another Thread Kicking Baylor in the Nuts.

[diadevic]

The Texas Rangers are now investigating? Don't they have enough to do in finding Tom Brady's jersey? The politicians are now making their political hay, and now, for the first time, I fear that the University is in serious trouble. Not just football, not just PR, but as a continuing entity.

Gutierrez wrote a letter to Abbott asking for a "sizable reduction" in the $10 million in grants that the state sends Baylor "until a thorough investigation is completed, full accountability is realized and concrete measures are in place to make certain that nothing like this ever happens again at Baylor."

Baylor is a private school, so it’s mostly immune to state oversight. But it does receive about $10 million per year in state grants that are passed on to help students with financial need.

Its one thing to send the football team back to irrelevance. BU thrived as an institution long before Briles came. Withholding conference money? Grandstanding by Boren, but we will survive. But if the government begins cutting support (these grants are just the tip of the iceberg) - there may be some real estate for sale soon in Waco. When the politicians decide they have a pet project, you can forget it.

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/bayl...ation-baylors-handling-sexual-assault-scandal

https://www.texastribune.org/2017/0...ncial-sanctions-response-baylor-rape-scandal/

 

[Bass Elder]

I do not like the idea of Texas Rangers getting involved in college football.. establish's a nasty precedent.

Give the Rangers an inch and they will take a mile. Suddenly they will take it upon themselves to get involved in NCAA matters to all college's in Texas.

 

[Longyac]

1. Baylor is in the Big 12 because some politicians had a pet project.
2. The Texas AG, an elected politician, is a Baylor alum who shut down the normal avenues for investigating what happened.
3. The school is required monitor athletics and meet Title IX requirements and did neither.

 

[oldhorn2]

the Rangers will not give a rats ass about Baylor football. What they WILL investigate is why the school administration did not do a good or even half good job of investigating the continual sexual assaults that have plagued Baylor for years. What they WILL investigate is why the Waco Police department was not involved in these investigations. What they WILL investigate is why the Waco DA was not involved in these investigations. OP is correct, the BU could be in serious trouble.

As Wyatt Earp said in Tombstone.....I'm coming and I am bringing Hell with me.

 

[Mister Moses]

I agree with oldhorn, I didn't think of that. The Texas Ranger museum is in Waco. The museum is worth the stop.

 

[ryan_sublett]

To me this is more of a law enforcement issue anyway

Rape
Failure to report
Silencing/hush money to victims in the form of scholarships
And that's just the stuff that's been reported. I've been saying this isn't an NCAA issue. This is a law enforcement/legal issue and it's headed that way. It's not really about football it just happens to involve the football program.

 

[bschroed21]

The NCAA has more important things to do, like investigating and suspending some baseball players for playing fantasy football.

 

[ryan_sublett]

The NCAA has more important things to do, like investigating and suspending some baseball players for playing fantasy football.

NCAA is only designed to handle eligibility issues, and recruiting violations. It was never really meant to handle things like this or penn state.

 

[HornsRuleU]

I'm not sure why a sectarian private school is getting state government grants in the first place -- and I'm an evangelical. That seems inappropriate.

2. The Texas AG, an elected politician, is a Baylor alum who shut down the normal avenues for investigating what happened.

Silencing/hush money to victims in the form of scholarships

Sources? Google's not pointing me to that info. The Texas AG's office forced Baylor to submit to open records requests. That's not the same as opening an official investigation, but it's not shielding BU, either.

 

[LongfellowDrew]

do not like the idea of Texas Rangers getting involved in college football

It's not about football. It's about hiding rape.

 

[JohnsBrother]

One rape, one Ranger...

 

[ryan_sublett]

I'm not sure why a sectarian private school is getting state government grants in the first place -- and I'm an evangelical. That seems inappropriate.



Sources? Google's not pointing me to that info. The Texas AG's office forced Baylor to submit to open records requests. That's not the same as opening an official investigation, but it's not shielding BU, either.

I think the grants just help students with financial aid. You can obtain federal student loans and pell grants to attend private university. I'm a big perponet of seperstion between religion and government as the constitution states but I have no issue with this. As long as the money is used for that. The decision to attend private college shouldn't preclude you to the same financial aid available to everyone else.

As far as my source the Dallas morning news details that at least one accuser never filed suit against Baylor but entered in to a "confidential settlement". Outside the lines had a report that it was a scholarship. Either way Baylor clearly didn't want it getting out and used money to keep at least one accuser quite.

 

[oldhorn2]

Mean while....back at the ranch.....Bryles is innocent....

orts.yahoo.com/news/art-briles-i-did-not-cover-up-sexual-violence-190008827.html

 

[clob94]

Unreal

 

[Longyac]

Mean while....back at the ranch.....Bryles is innocent....

orts.yahoo.com/news/art-briles-i-did-not-cover-up-sexual-violence-190008827.html

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/art-briles-i-did-not-cover-up-sexual-violence-190008827.html

 

[oldhorn2]

Thanks....when I put up that link I couldnt get it to high light for some reason.

In the mean time I read somewhere that Bryles text's were put up and they were damning as hell

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...al-violence-at-baylor/?utm_term=.c07c1baaa233

 

[HornsRuleU]

Thanks....when I put up that link I couldnt get it to high light for some reason.

In the mean time I read somewhere that Bryles text's were put up and they were damning as hell

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...al-violence-at-baylor/?utm_term=.c07c1baaa233

The guilty wait until that news cycle -- with the damning information -- is over and people are starting to forget, and then they protest their innocence. We saw that with Penn State, and countless political scandals & pants-on-fire lies.

Most people don't bother to fact-check, apparently, and end up agreeing with the lies.

 

[clob94]

I fvcking said it loud and clear when this entire sh!t storm started-- if Baylol and Art wanted to be on the best end of this stick, Art should have walked out infront of the media, said he knew nothing and DEMANDED the FBI come in and do an investigation and threaten to leave Baylor if they didn't.....

Thats what INNOCENT people do. They demand an outside entity get ti the bottom of sh!t. He didn't do that. Had he have done that and Baylor said "no", he could have walked away with his name and reputation intact. Schools would have lined up to hire him. But he didn't--- and now he will never coach again.


This leads me to WHY he didn't call for an investigation...... because he knew sh!t.

 

[Bass Elder]

It's not about football. It's about hiding rape.

Thought about that after posting.

There is something really sick (inherently out of balance) with Baylor (and Waco) that extends beyond this incident. Going to back to the basketball murder along with other situations that dont come readily to mind.

 

[oldhorn2]

yep....the corruption angle is what the Rangers do. The McClendon county DA and the Waco DA probably aint sleeping too well right about now......sheriff....police commish.....etc.

 

[TX1972]

Thought about that after posting.

There is something really sick (inherently out of balance) with Baylor (and Waco) that extends beyond this incident. Going to back to the basketball murder along with other situations that dont come readily to mind.

How about the massacre at Twin Peaks?

 

[Bass Elder]

How about the massacre at Twin Peaks?

man, I thought about that but was hesitant to bring it up. Your term 'massacre' is exactly what it was.

The cops thought they were hero's capping unarmed bikers as they ran out to escape the ordeal.

 

[TX1972]

man, I thought about that but was hesitant to bring it up. Your term 'massacre' is exactly what it was.

The cops thought they were hero's capping unarmed bikers as they ran out to escape the ordeal.

It will eventually come out that the police informant started the fight.

 

[horn wild]

man, I thought about that but was hesitant to bring it up. Your term 'massacre' is exactly what it was.

The cops thought they were hero's capping unarmed bikers as they ran out to escape the ordeal.

So all the weapons were planted during the biker gangs church service at Twin Peaks?Man I didn't think about that.

 

[Bass Elder]

So all the weapons were planted during the biker gangs church service at Twin Peaks?Man I didn't think about that.

..then THINK about it, if thats what floats you boat.