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Big 12 votes down ‘Baker Mayfield rule’

I don't think that walkons should be controlled like that. The idea of walkon poaching is a bit far fetched, and if you are afraid of that just give him a scholly. But it's OU and Mayfield so I am not really outraged.
 
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I agree, if you don't want walkons leaving, give them a scholarship. If someone competing school is wanting to give up a scholarship on a kid you don't think is worth it, then who cares. I don't see what makes them different than a regular student who wants to change schools. They didn't sign an LOI or anything so what is the hold up
 
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So if Mayfield graduates, he could transfer again? Not sure if he is NFL good. Would be crazy to send him to another conference.
 
So if Mayfield graduates, he could transfer again? Not sure if he is NFL good. Would be crazy to send him to another conference.
he is destined to be atm's QB next year ;) OU's Dumping ground. He lost that year because he transferred within conference ? right ? Scholarship or not, he stepped on that field and played half a year before he was benched. The rule applies to a player...not if he is a walk on or not. Solid rule :)


5 Year Clock (Applies to Division I schools only):

The number of years a student is eligible to play NCAA athletics. A student can compete 4 years out of 5 total years. The 5 year clock begins the semester a student enrolls full-time (12 units).
 
he is destined to be atm's QB next year ;) OU's Dumping ground. He lost that year because he transferred within conference ? right ? Scholarship or not, he stepped on that field and played half a year before he was benched. The rule applies to a player...not if he is a walk on or not. Solid rule :)


5 Year Clock (Applies to Division I schools only):

The number of years a student is eligible to play NCAA athletics. A student can compete 4 years out of 5 total years. The 5 year clock begins the semester a student enrolls full-time (12 units).

Indeed but they had an exception just for walk-ons but ttech didnt sign off on it. In my opinon walk-ons shouldnt be treated exactly the same in regard to transfer rules, and apparently the people who drafted this rule thought somewhat along the same lines. But it is what it is, ttech didnt play ball and that's that. I do wonder what national title contender Mayfield will transfer to. He wouldnt waste his time in aggieland, he wants to win something.
 
Indeed but they had an exception just for walk-ons but ttech didnt sign off on it. In my opinon walk-ons shouldnt be treated exactly the same in regard to transfer rules, and apparently the people who drafted this rule thought somewhat along the same lines. But it is what it is, ttech didnt play ball and that's that. I do wonder what national title contender Mayfield will transfer to. He wouldnt waste his time in aggieland, he wants to win something.
If he has a good year, he will have a couple title contenders lining up for him. He would have to go to a similar offense though, nobody would re-tool their offense for one player and one year.
 
Lol....OU cried like a little bitch and got its way. At least that will keep OU distracted from the bigger problems and screws kyler Murray in the process.... priceless ;)
 
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"Not so fast my friends" says Bob Stoops " I own this conference and don't forget it!"
 
Actually, if I was Mayfield and thought I may have a chance at getting drafted then no way I would stay an extra year especially with the concussion issue he may have.
 
Any way of finding out the schools that changed their votes. When you have 8 schools with zero power in a conference, this is how it goes. But it would be interesting to see who the 2 bitch schools were.
 
They did adjust the rule a bit prior to the re-vote. It now allows the original team to give the player a scholarship and prevent them from transferring. The rule was added to prevent teams from poaching other teams walk-ons by offering them a scholarship. I agree though, this will be a rare occurrence. How often does one program want to give a walk on a scholarship if his own team doesn't?
 
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OU cornered a couple nothing schools, and helped them understand who daddy is. They changed things up a bit to save face. I get it. Just wonder which schools dropped the soap.
 
Or just perhaps they realized it was a dumb rule to begin with? Lol. Oh the horror. Why does it matter anyway because half y'alls fan base says Baker sucks.
 
You think people would have changed a rule they'd just voted on to help Iowa State or Okie State or Kansas State or Baylor? No way. They would have said go fuk yourself. The rest of the conference would have bent to Texas's will as well. 8 parasite schools will do anything to keep their host schools around.
 
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Nothing to be ashamed of. OU has huge stroke in the BIG12. Why not use it. I really just wondered who they leaned on. Could of been any but Texas really.

Seems like Texas coming out against adding new teams or a BIG12 network, OU needed a bone thrown their way.
 
Could just be 7 schools realized how smart it was to change the rule. Only P5 conference with this dumb rule, and good thing it changed. On to another playoff!
 
You think people would have changed a rule they'd just voted on to help Iowa State or Okie State or Kansas State or Baylor? No way. They would have said go fuk yourself. The rest of the conference would have bent to Texas's will as well. 8 parasite schools will do anything to keep their host schools around.
OU has brought millions to schools in the conference for their bowl game appearances etc. that otherwise would not have benefitted. Stoops reminded everyone of that fact and then they re-voted. No big deal really.
 
Darn the bad luck, only Texas Baylor and Tech voted against it. Nothing knew to see here.
 
Good, now we've got two more years to make twinkle toes nervously hop around in the pocket.
 
The rest of the conference would have bent to Texas's will as well. 8 parasite schools will do anything to keep their host schools around.

Real talk. I cant be upset over this bc it would have worked out the same had it been Texas just like you said.

On a side note - I could care less if Baker Mayfield gets to play seeing as how he has yet to beat Texas. ;)
 
It needed to be changed, and it will probably be 15 years before we there is another walk on that is affected by it. None the less we showed our ass voting against it.
 
Real talk. I cant be upset over this bc it would have worked out the same had it been Texas just like you said.

On a side note - I could care less if Baker Mayfield gets to play seeing as how he has yet to beat Texas. ;)

True, but he's also lead OU to the same number of wins in 2016 as ole Charlie has in two seasons at tx. Should be a fun two years, if only texas can hold their end of the bargain and contend for something.
 
War Room:

IRVING – Here is the easiest way to describe this week’s Big 12 meetings.

On Wednesday, Oklahoma quarterback Baker Mayfield learned the Big 12 did not approve a proposal that would have made him eligible to play in 2017 because the conference was counting a non-scholarship year at Texas Tech against him. After a huge uproar, a second vote occurred on Thursday.

Surprise ... Mayfield was awarded that year of eligibility.

Sigh.

There were two main issues addressed by Oklahoma President David Boren (Big 12 board chair) and Big 12 Commissioner Bob Bowlsby during their media session on Thursday night. Okay, Boren did most of the talking while Bowlsby enjoyed a rare moment of not having to answer questions. Boren is a former politician, so to say he knows how to put on a show when the lights are on would be an understatement. I am not insulting the man. From a reporter’s perspective, he is a quote machine.

I asked Boren if there have been any discussions behind closed doors about the Longhorn Network's future and eventually establishing a conference network. Boren has been outspoken about his dislike of LHN and the disadvantage he believes it creates for other Big 12 programs.

The topic was not discussed, but Boren had plenty to say about the network.

“We’re not at a point to have those kinds of discussions,” Boren said. “We’re moving through the data to see what the data will show us. I think there’s no secret, and it’s been said before, that we are concerned about revenue imbalances with other conferences, and that if we project ourselves out, we’ll (potentially) have some revenue imbalances. Although, when you look at, and we’ll be announcing tomorrow (Friday) the revenue distribution to the individual members of the conference. When you look at the individual revenue distributions, the conference is not as disadvantaged as it would look like on a gross basis. That’s the first thing we have to look at.

“We’re in a situation, it’s no secret that I’ve made comments before about our financial disadvantage, and we need to find ways to do that. There’s several ways to look at it. I think it’s premature. One, we have to look at the marketplace. What is the marketplace? Right now, we know we’re going through tremendous technological change as we have a growth of those who are getting their sports from digital platforms rather than the traditional platforms. That, of course, we’re going through a technological transformation. That affects the marketplace. That affects the finances of the network. It affects where they are financially. We have to really consider what all those factors may be. We’re going to look at all the possible strategies of making our conference stronger. I think our conference is extremely strong. I want to underline that. We’ve gone through choppy periods in the past. From my point of view of having been here as a president through the whole history of this conference, I don’t think this conference has ever been stronger.”

Stronger is probably a relative term.

Sure, teams in the Big 12 are making money, but having only 10 members is still an issue of concern for many college observers. The issue is so obvious, reporters from Cincinnati and Orlando (University of Central Florida) have been in attendance this week hoping to relay some sort of positive news to the programs they cover.

Texas athletic director Mike Perrin expressed no desire to add more teams this week, but Boren said he needs more information before formulating an opinion.

Boren said there are several schools interesting in joining the Big 12. However, when asked if those programs were power five members, he admitted the universities that wanted to join their conference were on the outside trying to get in.

“To use a financial term, we want to make sure they are not diluting,” Boren said. “In other words, you want to look at how do they fit athletically? What is their fan base? What media markets are they in? Obviously, we want to look at where they stand academically. We don’t want to be diluted academically, as well as athletically. Where are they? What’s their level as a research institution? What’s their excellence in teaching? To use a financial term we want to make sure they’re not dilutive to I think what is a very strong conference at the present time.”

Boren wants a conference where no member is at an economic weakness, which basically means he has an issue with Texas. He is concerned with staying competitive with other conferences, athletically, academically, but also financially. Boren said those goals can be reached through expansion, television networks, or technology.

“We don’t have to exactly have the same financial income as every other conference, but we should not be at a strong disadvantage,” Boren said. “Everyone doesn’t have to be exactly penny for penny the same. But we do want to find strategies to help us in terms of the financial situation going forward. As I mentioned, we’re not as disadvantaged as some might think when you look at individual distribution to the universities. I think we need to focus in a new way when we talk about where are we financially … The Longhorn Network is talked about, sometimes the Sooner Network is not talked about, which we have, which has a very healthy financial return to us each year. It’s something we’ve created. We have other agreements with other sports marketing organizations, and other things that bring additional revenue to the university. We have to be very careful that we don’t do any damage to the other creative things the institutions have done, in a marketing way and other wise to bring in additional revenue to their school.

“I put it this way. We’re going to be very careful.”

In addition, Boren was asked about his relationship with Texas president Greg Fenves compared to conflicts he previously had with Bill Powers. Boren used the question as an opportunity to praise Fenves.

“I have gotten to know him, and I think he’s an outstanding president,” Boren said. “He has a wonderful, analytical mind with his engineering background. He’s an extraordinary person. The University of Texas has obviously made a very good choice. I think the idea that the University of Oklahoma and University of Texas, even though we have a great rivalry, has some deep seeded unwholesome feelings about each other is just not right. If you really look at this conference, and the whole history, when Bill Powers left the presidency, one of the greatest honors to me was in our final meeting, he asked me to make the final remarks about him and his service on the board. I think that demonstrates some of the publicity and reports about our relationship were completely misguided. I have great respect for him. He stood for academic freedom. He stood against political interference at the university. I had a lot of admiration for President Powers, as I do President Fenves.

“He’s going to be excellent … Yes, there’s a rivalry. Yes, there’s nothing that makes me happier than to win on the football field, or the basketball court, or the baseball diamond. I love beating Texas. I absolutely relish it. But, at the same time, I really value our friendship and relationship. Nothing I’ve ever said has ever been aimed at creating some disadvantage for the University of Texas, or any other member of this conference.” (Richardson)
 
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True, but he's also lead OU to the same number of wins in 2016 as ole Charlie has in two seasons at tx. Should be a fun two years, if only texas can hold their end of the bargain and contend for something.

Oh dont worry about us... This is the year Charlie shocks the nation..... He has already shown he can beat ou...but I do believe this is the year Texas rises back up and ends the year ranked, etc. We DO need to hold up our end of things though for sure.
 
Good gosh Scholz. Why don't you put a link for all this copy and paste nonsense. Your wasting bandwidth with these things, like your recruiting pages we know how to click a link. Thanks strait from Hillary's server.
 
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