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. But I'll say it again, she wouldn't have slapped a female.
You have no idea if that is true. None. And it doesn't matter because he was there and he goaded her into the slap with the quick head movements. Blaming the victim is a chicken sh$t move.
 
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You have no idea if that is true. None. And it doesn't matter because he was there and he goaded her into the slap with the quick head movements. Blaming the victim is a chicken sh$t move.

You came into the conversation without knowing the point of that reply to him, and it wasn't victim blaming. Try reading the entire conversation.

He did nothing to goad her into slapping him, she started the physical activity with the push. When is physical contact ok? You're making my point...woman like her feel enabled to hit men, because they do so with impunity. I guess she pushed him, which goaded him, into goading her to slap him, and the slap goaded him into punching her? What you said makes no sense. He was wrong for the punch, but she was wrong for the push and slap, that started the physical activity. But you should really read the entire conversation, before jumping in with accusations. That's weak.
 
You came into the conversation without knowing the point of that reply to him, and it wasn't victim blaming. Try reading the entire conversation.

He did nothing to goad her into slapping him, she started the physical activity with the push. When is physical contact ok? You're making my point...woman like her feel enabled to hit men, because they do so with impunity. I guess she pushed him, which goaded him, into goading her to slap him, and the slap goaded him into punching her? What you said makes no sense. He was wrong for the punch, but she was wrong for the push and slap, that started the physical activity. But you should really read the entire conversation, before jumping in with accusations. That's weak.
You are on here to troll is what I am beginning to see. But just to give you the short benefit of the doubt... If you and I are in an argument and you square up on me and do a quick head movement like you are going to hit me then you bet your house I am going to swing. He did goad her into hitting him by doing the quick hostile movements. I don't look out and see rain and call it clear just because I want it to be clear.

No one said she was right to push him away. What we are saying is that is not a "I get to knock this b&tch out now" move. You don't get free punches on a man or woman.......but especially a woman. He could have killed that girl.

You say you are not victim blaming while you are victim blaming.
 
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Mixon coming back to ou next season will keep the apologists busy.
 
Man people just don't understand the easily distractable nature of the American public. If they get rid of him now its a big deal for a few news cycles and then dies after the inauguration. If they keep him this thing is going to keep coming up over and over again. They better pray nothing happens regarding domestic violence in the offseason with any OU athlete.
 
Look at how long he's been a member and think about posters that have recently been banned. He thinks he's smart, but he's not.
I was thinking that was him but wasn't 100% sure. Now after seeing him lose his mind I see it is BLH/dtrain.
 
As a man I look at the video and immediately think I would kill Mixon.

I call BS on this. I'd bet you would do exactly what all the other "men" did in that restaurant. I can tell by your post that you would be the type of "man" that would say "she deserved that, shouldn't have pushed him". Am I right? You're not fooling anyone on here, especially me!
 
(This must be the only OU / Joe Mixon thread still open! You're falling off on the job, Scholz!)

Joe Mixon
Outstanding Educator of 2016


"Let me make it absolutely clear that I hope he has a wonderful career and he teaches people with that brutal, violent video, okay?” -Brent Musburger
 
What would he teach? Any idiot that hits a woman can pretty much get away with it. Nice lesson! America got a little more stupid by listening to Brent's comment.
 
So it's a culture thing................OU players fake punching Mixon at the Sugar Bowl. Awesome!
 
Read what President Boren had to say about the Mixon situation. What a disgusting worm.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsext...cle_3e0fd009-05a2-5fd8-b5d1-54a9703f85cb.html
This is old news Scholz we're in 2017 now. Like Stoops said, a lot has changed since back then and if it happened right now it would probably be handled different. The Sooners won the Big 12 and the Sugar Bowl. Stoops continued to solidify his place in the College HOF. Your tears are delicious. Let's move on.
 
This is old news Scholz we're in 2017 now. Like Stoops said, a lot has changed since back then and if it happened right now it would probably be handled different. The Sooners won the Big 12 and the Sugar Bowl. Stoops continued to solidify his place in the College HOF. Your tears are delicious. Let's move on.
The article was updated yesterday. It's newsworthy given the very recent Mixon and Musberger stories. It's not old news although you obviously want it to go away.

Yes, a lot has changed in 2.5 years. People are expected to be decent human beings now? What a crock.

Congrats on the football game win. Hope selling your soul was worth it.
 
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David Boren is slime. Btw, bell, he spoke on this at the Sugar Bowl. You know, in 2017.


NEW ORLEANS — University of Oklahoma president David Boren spoke with a small group of reporters on the field Monday night at the Superdome after OU’s Sugar Bowl victory against Auburn.

It was the first time Boren has spoken publicly since the release of the Joe Mixon tape and the subsequent press conference from Mixon and coach Bob Stoops.

In the interview, Boren defended OU’s decision to keep Mixon on campus and also had strong statements on several other topics, including OU’s background check system and Title IX office.

Below is a transcript of Boren’s comments:

(On Mixon):

There’s no excuse for violence against women, and a severe punishment was handed down. There’s also no reason to destroy the lives of young people when they make a serious mistake at age 18. What you want to do is try to set those people on the right course and have them live more productive lives in the future, and I think that’s always the right thing to do, and I don’t think that’s something that should be incited by instant opinion. Opinion changes. … Now there are people who second-guess us. And I hope what won’t be second-guessed is education institutions punishing things that need to be punished. People need to learn from those serious mistakes, but we don’t want to destroy the lives of young people that can be salvaged.

Coach Stoops said if that would have happened today, Mixon would have been kicked off:

I think it would have been very hard. I think what Bob was saying is that in 2 ½ years, a lot of opinions have changed on that subject. My opinion hasn’t changed. I think it’s wrong to ever hit a woman, no matter what the provocation, no matter what the circumstance. I think that person should always be punished, but on the other hand I don’t want to throw Father Flanagan into the dust bin of history. That wonderful character in the movie “The Priest,” he gave people a chance, and he gave young people a chance to learn from their mistakes and to make better lives for themselves. And I just read the Pope’s book, called “The Name of God is Mercy,” and I’d ask people to think a little bit before they want to reach out and let one single incident – when someone has a clean record – destroy an entire productive life. Punishment, yes. Ruining lives permanently, no.

So public perception is an influence in how you decide to punish people?

No. Not at all. And so I think we did the right thing at the time. I think we should have enacted a tough punishment, which we did. Some people talk as if we didn’t have a punishment. We did. I think after that, the job of a university, and the job of an educational institution, is to put young people on the right path, to learn from their mistakes. I hope that’s what we’ve done. I hope that’s what we’ll do 100 years from now.

There’s a perception about (OU’s SAE fraternity video), your reaction to that, how immediate it was in the dismissal:

This was immediate, too. The minute we saw the video, it was immediate. We didn’t even have any discussion about should there be punishment, should there be severe punishment, should (Mixon) continue to play on the team at that time? No. We dismissed him from the team, we didn’t even let him practice, we didn’t let him travel. That was a very harsh penalty. But what we did say was, ‘If you’ll get your life straightened out, if you’ll get on the right path and if you’ll be constructive from now on out, you do your community service, you get anger management training, you do all the other things that we’re calling on you to do … we’ll release you to somewhere else if you don’t want to measure up to those requirements that we’re putting on you,' that’s what was done at the time, and I think that's exactly right, what should have been done at the time, and I’m not one of these people that wants to be involved ... as a university president, I want to help young people learn from their mistakes and get on the right path. I’m not in the business as a university president of destroying the entire lives and entire futures of young people. If they want to get someone else to be university president that’s in the destruction business, get ’em. I’m in the education business.

Has OU considered changing its background check system or strengthening that at all?

We have one of the strongest in the country and will continue to do that. Most universities, many in the country, do not have background checks. We do. And of course in the Mixon case, we did a background check. And you know what we found? His teachers, his classmates, people in his community said he had the cleanest record that they had ever seen for a young person that age. None of these things are foolproof. You do the best you can. I think we’re a national model. We have moved our enforcement section out from under the athletics department. It’s separate. It’s in the general counsel’s office. We have one of the most active, model Title IX programs in the nation. We don’t tolerate violence against women. So we’re a model. But what I don’t ever want to be the model, I don’t want to be a model of the destruction of the lives of young people and not let young people learn from their mistakes. I think that’s wrong, and I think those people that are second-guessing it (and) rush to mob mentality about this are wrong. And I think when they sit back and reflect upon it, I don’t think they want to be in the business of destroying individuals any more than I do as a university president.

In that vein, is there any regret about the SAE incident then, because those guys were gone immediately and didn’t come back:

No. We had to because that was something that was an open-and-shut case. You have to look at every case. What does that have to do with this? That situation was totally different. So you have to really consider all the facts, and if we want to have a situation where every time something happens we think there’s some immediate answer to it without looking at the facts … Without looking at the background, without looking at what’s been happening, then no, you have to look at every case one-by-one. No, these are hard decisions. How many of you want to be in the business of deciding the future of everybody’s life based on what they did? It’s a hard decision to make. I would say that the situation was totally different. You cannot – just like we had a recent situation where we took another action – we had one of our students who said, ‘Let’s bring back a weekly lynching on all the campuses,’ and there were theses emails to the freshmen at the University of Pennsylvania. You cannot put up with that. We live in a country where you simply cannot put up with that kind of bias, that kind of racial division in our society. The situation here had to do with a young person who had an absolutely clean record of every kind before this, and we did all the background checks, and what did they tell us? It just shows you background checks are not foolproof either. And you have to look at how the students have behaved once they come to the university, and that they’ve met all the preconditions, and let me say, if he had not have met all the preconditions, there would have been zero tolerance for him not doing so. It wouldn’t have been a question about what to do.

How disappointed were you about (Mixon's) parking ticket incident:

Well, I was disappointed with that, and I made my views known about that at the time, and I insisted that he not play the next game at the time so that he would learn from it. But he is still taking counseling, he is still trying to make himself into a better man. He learned from it. You all heard what he said for himself the other day. What sort of puzzles me, is, how could the media at the time, who all had the opportunity, to see that tape when I saw, and many of them said we were too harsh, and certainly my phone rang off the wall that I was too harsh. I don’t think we were too harsh. I think all the conditions we put in place were the right conditions. On the other hand, I just go back to what I’m saying. How many people do you know, who when they were 18 years old, and they’ve never had an episode whatsoever, an unblemished record, how many made a mistake? How many people do you know who’ve never made a mistake in their lives? I think it’s a sort of rush to judgment when you say, ‘Oh, let’s destroy people’s lives and not let them have any kind of future, let’s don’t let them learn from their mistakes.’ I don’t believe in that, and if you want to say, I thought the Father Flanagan I watched in the movies when I was growing up as a young person, I thought that person was very admirable, and I still think that today.

Did the Mixon case go before Steve Ashmore in student conduct?

The Mixon case, we had several other cases, in fact, if you want to know about my own record, we had a Title IX case involving a player, Frank Shannon. The local judge wouldn’t let us enforce our punishment to keep him off the team. I took the case to the State Supreme Court. I think what a lot of people don’t understand is I might be the first person in the country to go to the Supreme Court to enforce a Title IX ruling at a university, so that’s how firmly we believe in these things, and how strongly we want to set a national example. But I think you have to look at every case, case by case. Look at the fact situation in the individual cases. And as I say, background checks are not foolproof, and you look at others who have been an important part of our team, and again, there’s a lot of discussions about that. They’ve been model situations at our university since they’ve been there. So getting people on the right track ... I think one of the greatest things, and I’ve seen this even more since I’ve become president of the university, one of the greatest things about intercollegiate sports, it is a place that provides equal opportunity for all sorts of people, whether they grew up in single-parent families, whether they grew up in poverty, or they grew up without role models, they have a chance by being good citizens at a university, by playing on a team, by playing by the rules, its one of the greatest places in America, where people can start at the bottom if we want to talk about the socioeconomic conditions and still have an opportunity to make it at the top. And we can second-guess all these things, and I think we should have tough rules, and I think we should have punishments, and I don’t find think you could find a case where we haven’t made a punishment when we thought a punishment was right. … But I just appeal to you as members of the press, you write about this all the time, you broadcast about it. Intercollegiate (sports) is a place of great opportunity for young people who grew up in poverty, who grew up in circumstances none of us can imagine. Let's don’t take away that opportunity to rise from humble beginnings and to have opportunities through intercollegiate sports, and let’s not swing the pendulum so far in the other direction that we destroy people and snuff out the possibilities for their lives instead of giving them something to build on. So I think we ought to think about that. When people play God, and they want to push people into the dust bin of future possibilities in their lives, I think that’s wrong. I think what’s right is set a punishment that’s a serious punishment. Set conditions you have to live up to that are serious and demanding and give people an opportunity to reclaim their lives and put it on the right path. I think if we stop that spirit in in intercollegiate sports, if we become too judgmental about people who grew up in circumstances very unlike ourselves, I think we’ve permanently damaged intercollegiate sports, and I think we ought to think long and hard about that.

So the Mixon case did not go before student conduct?

The Mixon case was first a criminal case, and then of course we immediately looked at it ourselves.

So it didn’t go through Steve Ashmore’s office?

The person never filed a complaint with Title IX.

Who conducts your background checks? The third party?

The third party is in compliance and it reports to the general counsel’s office, not to the athletic department.

What is the name of that third party?

The third party is the general counsel of the university. The general counsel of the university is where the Title IX office, or rather where our compliance in athletics (resides). You don’t have the athletic department judging its own compliance. You have the general counsel’s office judging it.

Is there a contract with someone for this service?

There are people hired for the service. Come and look. Come visit our Title IX office. It’s considered a model in the country, and there’s schools all across the United States coming in to look at how our Title IX office functions, because it’s all … It’s very confidential in terms of complaints. Certainly not like at some other universities where you have to go to the coach to make a complaint or somebody else to make a complaint. You come, you get an objective investigation into it, if you wish to make a complaint. Now, we can’t compel people to, but that’s where they come.

So the third party, they are employees of the university?

They are employees of the university, yes. And they are employees of the general counsel’s office.

So by a third party you mean it’s just outside of athletics?

Yes, one of the reforms nationwide has been the best practice, because for many years you had compliance inside the athletics department reporting to the athletics director, etc. That was deemed to not be independent enough or objective enough, so schools across the country, not all of them, many of them who follow the best practices follow that compliance function completely outside the athletic department, and we did that several years ago, and I think that’s the right thing to do.
 
Haha well Stoopsy says times have changed so I can only go on his thoughts and rationale used.
I wonder if you think it would be cute and cuddly if it were a girl that you loved....like your mom? Sister? Daughter? Wife? Of course you being an oklahoma fan they are all the same person but still.
 
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Yeah, haha. Winky face. Boys will be boys. Everyone does it. Blah, blah, blah.
 
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I wonder if you think it would be cute and cuddly if it were a girl that you loved....like your mom? Sister? Daughter? Wife? Of course you being an oklahoma fan they are all the same person but still.

This doesn't change the mind of someone that thinks it's ok. I've said it numerous times and I think the answer is "My mom and daughter can take a punch buddy!".
 
I wonder how many wife beaters Stoops will replace Mixon and Westbrook with.
 
Who knows, I dont know how many of them beat wives or just strangers they've never met before. I'll guess 0. I bet my guess will be closer than yours
 
Considering Stoops' recent recruitment of multiple scumbags who hit women (as well as throw down flights of stairs, attempt to rape, kidnap and threaten to murder - oh and actually bite), I'll take that bet.
 
Cool, so you do take bets. Just not involving your precious avatar. Since he's signed i dont know 400+ the likelihood is small that a wifebeater slips in, especially with the spotlight on them. Bet on.
 
Nah, just BS-ing. You're correct, I don't bet with welching scumbags (aka $ooner fans).

If you say so, Stoops' recent recruiting M.O. means he'll take any POS human being under the sun if he can play ball.

Oh wait, that's always been his M.O. (burglars, drug dealers, gun arrests, etc.)
 
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Nah, just BS-ing. You're correct, I don't bet with welching scumbags (aka $ooner fans).

If you say so, Stoops' recent recruiting M.O. means he'll take any POS human being under the sun if he can play ball.

Oh wait, that's always been his M.O. (burglars, drug dealers, gun arrests, etc.)

youre lucky you didnt have the stones to bet me this year. maybe one day you will, and if tx wins you can choose my avatar. Though i cant imagine why you wouldnt love the one I am using now.

I cant agree with that about Stoops, I mean how many players has he opted not to recruit due to their background? He'll never get credit for that even though it happens. Think of it like this, if that really was his MO you should be able to find a few dozen, maybe 100 or 200, considering he's recruited thousands of players.

Anyway, It's pretty nice being a sooner fan.

He doesn't bet $ only pictures on a forum.

I get more out of seeing someone using an avi of my choice. I already have a great job at burger king.
 
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This just shows you what type of fans sooners are....

https://www.google.com/amp/www.nbcd...vasion-Victim-Community--409603635.html?amp=y
 
Considering he has yet to break 50 yards in a game against Texas, I'll go with neither for 1K.

2015 24 yds
2016 48 yds

A good point but If he comes back in '17 he would be the feature back, not splitting with Perine who was pretty well getting all the carries. Just the fact that he can still shine while playing along side OU's all time rusher is pretty impressive in and of itself.



I'd say that tx has some pretty interesting fans too

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Mixon won't bust anybody's balls, just crack chicks jaws...

2015:
one game over 150, opponent TT
10 games under 100
2 total over 100.

2016:
one game over 150 and it was his only 200 plus game, opponent TT
7 games under 100
5 total over 100

He comes back, he will have a good year, but he's not going off on folks all of the sudden from the backfield. HE is a threat in the passing game.

Houston was 4th this year in rushing defense, mixon had 40 yards against that D/our new DC with better players. Hell, Perine only had 31 in that same game.

PEE-rine did have a 200 plus game this past season against Texas in his third attempt while not doing much the first two games. Maybe Mixon does it...1k on it?

Avatar bets are for buddies to f with each other. Cash is king if somebody is running their mouth on a rival board.
 
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