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TX1972

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Evening news from SA: Texas a "huge" favorite over Cal-7pts. How is this a "huge" spread?The sportcaster does seem like an Aggie homer. He always refers to the "fighting Texas aggies".
 
Line opened at 4. Should have gotten in on that action---- dopey.....;)
 
Opened at Texas -4 on the road, now it's Texas -8.5, these guys know what they're doing. They initially set a line to keep it interesting in an attempt to get equal money on each side. Needless to say, the money came in on Texas.
 
Opened at Texas -4 on the road, now it's Texas -8.5, these guys know what they're doing. They initially set a line to keep it interesting in an attempt to get equal money on each side. Needless to say, the money came in on Texas.
This is essentially correct. People mistakenly think Vegas odds makers are predicting outcomes of games. What they are really doing is trying to get people to bet evenly on both sides. As you said, once the money starts coming in heavily on one side, they move the line further to that side, to try to get the money even again. -8.5 isn't a huge spread in terms of college ball; you routinely see spreads in the 30s. However, the 8.5 is most telling because it would require a two score victory for the Horns to cover.
 
Define huge favorites? I would consider a line over 2 TD's to be big favorites, huge...maybe 3 scores.
 
Cal is mediocre, and lost the top QB in the country. This is not a lock, but, IMO, should be a comfortable win by 2 TD's. Which is exactly why you have to worry about young players. Don't read your press clippings!
 
Cal is going to score points. I got us at -4 but now that it's changed to -9. Now I am looking at the over under.
 
Define huge favorites? I would consider a line over 2 TD's to be big favorites, huge...maybe 3 scores.
I would say if Texas doesn't win by at least 3 touchdowns then you should be concerned. Cal is missing starters too.
 
Cal is going to score points. I got us at -4 but now that it's changed to -9. Now I am looking at the over under.
Like I posted at one point, I just see this as an "anything you can do I can do better" match up. They run a similar passing attack as us, but they have no run game to balance it against. Our defense is better at every position, and by a long shot. They'll move the ball, at times, but Texas will also get stops. Webb is good for at least two picks if he is throwing all game, and the hidden stat with Cal, is they go three and out a lot too.

What will kill us is if we extend their drives with penalties. I think I read that 4 of UTEPS 10 first downs were on Texas penalties. That can't happen when stops are at a premium.
 
7 is a pretty big spread especially for a road team. A lot of people don't understand what the spread is designed to do. The spread isn't designed to be a predictor. It's a number that Vegas believes will get equal betting on both sides. Some people use it as this is what the team is supposed to win by.. Not the case.
 
No. They are that bad and have starters out. If you don't win by a large margin it should be a concern.
You're attempting to prop this team up to high there Bell. They were 1-4 on the road last year, new team, get the W and move forward.


Nah, I see no reason for concern even if they only win by 10. Buechele is bound to have a bad game at some point and it could end up being his first road game. Get the experience and the win....move on. I'm not buying the shit you're selling.


It's one game at a time with this team. Get the W, come home, bye week and then head out to Stillwater!


We're not talking about pre-season No.2 Clemson eeking one out against Auburn and then looking like trash the next week. That's a cause for concern.
 
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I personally don't care if they win every game by 1 point. Bring home the win, that is what matters. You can't tell me that if a Big 12 school, regardless of who they played and what the point spread was, went undefeated for the season they wouldn't be in the playoff. Ultimately it doesn't matter if you win by 1 or by 100, just win baby!
 
No. They are that bad and have starters out. If you don't win by a large margin it should be a concern.

Horns are huge favorites in this game as they should be.

I would say if Texas doesn't win by at least 3 touchdowns then you should be concerned. Cal is missing starters too.

I realize I'm taking the bait but do you really believe this? Like really?

No one, except maybe yourself, thinks that Texas is a "huge favorite". 8.5 is not "huge".

All your comments are merely biased opinion that you will later spout off as fact should Texas somehow only win by three.

It's two games into the season and everyone is still trying to figure out what they have. It seems both Cal and Texas have good offenses and mediocre(Cal) to below average(Texas) defense. Both teams will score and it might be one of those whoever-scores-last-wins sort of games.

But playing your first game on the road, late at night against a P5 team with a stellar offense? Give me the win and I'll be happy.

"Huge favorites"....I guffawed.
 
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Bell is trolling

Cal has been on the road for both their games, this is their first home game. They are a lot like Tech in that they play much better at home than away.

With that said, I'm hoping for a big win as all Texas fans are, but I won't be concerned if we win by 1 pt.

This is a young team still growing, I'm not sure if they know how to win on the road. IMO this is a learning game.
 
If they end up 5-0 to start the season, maybe, just maybe...I'll "concern" myself with possibility's!
 
Bell has the same tune each week. Don't fall for it. He acts like he is high on Texas, but then tells us why the other team sucks. In other words, a win doesn't mean much, and a loss is a disaster. But just like I said before ND, his motives don't make him wrong. Cal isn't that great of a team. They just aren't. I understand being cautious with optimism, but at some point it starts to sound like hedging. Texas should win this game, and it shouldn't be that close. Thats not a prediction, thats just looking at matchups and seeing we have the advantage almost everywhere.
 
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I've looked at the match up and Texas has much more talent, top to bottom. I predicted a Texas win a couple of days ago here on this board. I agree a win is a win but considering the meat of your schedule is coming up it would seems you would want your team hitting it's stride. A close win or a loss would not be considered hitting your stride. Has nothing to do with trolling, it's simple facts being stated.
 
Bell is trolling

Cal has been on the road for both their games, this is their first home game. They are a lot like Tech in that they play much better at home than away.

With that said, I'm hoping for a big win as all Texas fans are, but I won't be concerned if we win by 1 pt.

This is a young team still growing, I'm not sure if they know how to win on the road. IMO this is a learning game.
They are a lot like Tech, period.

They both use pass-happy offenses. Their stats are almost identical so far. #1 and #2 in passing, #2 & #3 in total offense. Quarterbacks are #1 and #2. They rush the ball about 26x per game, compared to double that for Texas. Texas will emphasize the run against both teams, but especially Cal. Neither defense can stop the run, especially Cal, which has a decent secondary.

Of course, there are differences. Mahomes distributes the ball better than Davis Webb can. Webb mainly trusts WR Chad Hansen, who is the nation's #1 receiver (FBS). He's averaging 14 catches a game! Vic Wharton and Bug Rivera are getting 4 catches a game. Mahomes spreads it around evenly, in comparison.

And the school in Lubbock is practically a degree mill. So that's different.
 
I've already predicted a Texas win, 48-24...It's the concern trash/narrative that makes him look like a fool. As long as they get the win, it really doesn't matter. This team is still learning to jive with each other, lucky for us, this game is a chance for the offence to get some really good action.



Bad teams find a way to win! Dallas 2015, Bell.
 
I would say if Texas doesn't win by at least 3 touchdowns then you should be concerned. Cal is missing starters too.
And as bell has correctly pointed out in the past, missing starters on the team Texas is playing is a MAJOR concern. Missing Texas players? Meh.
 
No. They are that bad and have starters out. If you don't win by a large margin it should be a concern.
Cal is the #2 team in the country in passing offense, #3 in total offense, #4 in the country in 1st downs and #21 in scoring offense. Just curious, are all the teams UT plays always terrible? Is that just a given to you? Because Cal has a very good offense.

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/25

Take your "concern" and "just facts being stated" BS and pound sand, dishonest, obsessed okie troll.
 
Webb's performance against SDSU
- 522 yards passing...so we are in trouble right? Not so fast
- it took him 72 attempts to get those 522 yards. He was 41-72 on the game
- he also had three interceptions, but a closer look at those interceptions; one was a pick six, another was on a drive to win the game.

And this was all against an FCS school.
 
We've lost to very similar teams in Lubbock.
we have, and we've been pretty bad. So if this team has turned the corner, and I think we all think that we have, then we should win against this team convincingly
 
Cal is the #2 team in the country in passing offense, #3 in total offense, #4 in the country in 1st downs and #21 in scoring offense. Just curious, are all the teams UT plays always terrible? Is that just a given to you? Because Cal has a very good offense.

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/25

Take your "concern" and "just facts being stated" BS and pound sand, dishonest, obsessed okie troll.
No not really but Cal is no world beater Scholz. Just for reference, Cal has played San Diego St. and Hawaii. San Diego St. is ranked 110 in Pass defense and Hawaii is ranked 104 Scholz. When I say that Texas should win by a large margin, I'm not joking.
 
No not really but Cal is no world beater Scholz. Just for reference, Cal has played San Diego St. and Hawaii. San Diego St. is ranked 110 in Pass defense and Hawaii is ranked 104 Scholz. When I say that Texas should win by a large margin, I'm not joking.
Texas is NO world beater brah, up and comers, nothing more. True Freshmen QB, 75% of the roster is underclassmen...the freakin' train is comin.
 
OK so just mostly. All you do is talk down our opponents in an effort to denigrate us whether we win or lose.
Haha good grief, not sure what else you want? I've picked Texas to win, clearly demonstrated my reasoning backed up by stats that show Cal's offensive firepower is inflated due to them playing inferior competition. Texas has more talent and should easily win. Not sure how that's offensive but ok. If it makes you feel better, I believe OSU has more talent and firepower than OU. I'm picking OU though for the major upset.
 
Haha good grief, not sure what else you want?
Quit being a dishonest sack. That's all. You talk down all of our opponents, play up who they're missing, dismiss who we're missing, on and on and on every week...
 
Stewart Mandel put his pick in at 52-48 Texas, lets not forget the possibility of trash time scores late. A win is a win and we are merely looking at week to week.
 
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