Calling all Doctors on OrangeBloods
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Well, I'd be curious about your next blood draw. My father, who went to Cornell Med School and did a chest surgery residency, would just say Uh huh. He worked as a general practitioner. When I was a junior med student at Southwestern, we had a black teen age boy admitted one evening. The interns and junior resident didn't understand why the senior resident had admitted him. Until he got short of breath and needed a ventilator that night. He died the next day about noon. This was before all the virus tests. He had a viral pneumonia at autopsy. None of us got sick, none of his friends or family. He just died. There will always be a lot we don't know.
You probably had it, congrats on being in the 80% who do well. Most don’t want to roll the dice & be in the 20% who get real sick. Problem with not following guidelines is if everyone were to get it in short order, that 20% would overrun our hospital system and many more in that 20% would die from lack of care. Even now with precautions, hospitals are nearing capacity...
Here’s @clob94 getting his covid test
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...s-injured-fight-little-brother-Zoo-Miami.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...s-injured-fight-little-brother-Zoo-Miami.html
I was pointing out the significant error in the math.
Plus, there are some that are eager to take the clob94's case and justification for undermining the severity of what many many are facing.
Wanted to point out that significant numbers are affected badly.
Just so we are clear--- I was asking for medical physicians to weigh in so we all had educated and informed individuals with experience in the field of medicine that could perhaps shed some light on what one physician called "a never before heard of" case.
Sorry, I am not a physician.
I would not take that comment from your physician literally. That is dependent on how many cases that physician has seen or heard of. This is all still new and still being understood.
If you really want answers to your questions, why don't you get a second or third opinion? Will have better responses that those on this forum.
I am scheduled to have more blood work done this week-- and I just got my results friday-- and posted here yesterday (saturday)-- so in the interim of the weekend, I thought I'd ask any doctors on here if they had seen similar results.
The doctor that tested me works regularly with the University of Texas Health Science Center and is an ex-military doctor that practiced at Bethesda. She also has been published while working in conjunction with the CDC. In short, she's people that knows people-- were it a General practitioner that was 80 years old and never left Webb county-- I'd 100% agree with you. I jus figured is ask on here because I know there's a couple of docs that check in here from time to time.
The doctor that tested me works regularly with the University of Texas Health Science Center and is an ex-military doctor that practiced at Bethesda. She also has been published while working in conjunction with the CDC. In short, she's people that knows people-- were it a General practitioner that was 80 years old and never left Webb county-- I'd 100% agree with you. I jus figured is ask on here because I know there's a couple of docs that check in here from time to time.
I’ll say this, under no circumstance will I ever voluntarily test for Covid etc. due to the simple fact that now these docs are claiming the virus can cause other damage to your body down the road. Anyone thinking insurance companies don’t put a Mark by your name and identify you as pre existing conditions even though they claim they don’t is asking for trouble with their insurance coverage imo.
That’s a good point and one I haven’t really thought much about. The thing that gets me is I’ve been hearing a lot of stories of people getting tested and having no symptoms and the test comes back positive and then testing again a day or 2 later and getting a negative result. I’m very skeptical of all the numbers being thrown at us.
Wow Bell!....a very lucid point. Good on you. I guess those Paycheck records are not as damaging as I first assumed.
Now I hear there is a new symptom arising out of Covid 19....Covid toes!...….....
My God! First they give us "toelio"....if it spreads to Kneesles you better pray to God they find a cure before you develop "smallcox"
My God! First they give us "toelio"....if it spreads to Kneesles you better pray to God they find a cure before you develop "smallcox"
I didn’t think health insurance companies could deny you coverage or raise rates due to pre-existing conditions. Wasn’t that apart of the ACA? I did a quick search and that appears to be the case. Maybe I am wrong.
Johnny Paycheck worked at the Dallas fed for a while, 80s or 90s. Bob McTeer mentioned him in a speech I attended.
The thing about the tests is that they have to find tiny viral particles out of all the other "trash" that gets collected on the swab. Your nose is full of bacteria, mold spores, viruses, and other microbes that make it hard for the test to find what it is looking for. Basically the PCR test is looking for the genetic material of the virus kind of like DNA. When you have millions of other microbes all with different genetic material the test has to scan through all that other stuff to find what is is looking for. So if there is a low concentration the chances of the test missing some particles are greater. That is why results are relayed as "Not Found" instead of negative. There is no such thing as negative, it just means that the test was not able to find what it was looking for. I'm not sure of the sensitivity of the different tests they have out there but I think they vary and the lower the viral load the harder it is for the test to find it.
So if someone doesn’t have any virus particles wouldn’t that be considered negative? I’m confused as to how there is no such thing as a negative test?
I highly doubt they are going to come out and tell you why they would deny you or raise your rates but rest assured they’re keeping a list and checking it twice, no way they want to pay out across the board and will do everything they can to avoid it. I somehow feel that by declaring this a pandemic they’ve gotten into bed with the insurance companies, to the insurance and doctor’s benefit.
I sometimes wonder if me living in a double wide all these years has actually made my immune system stronger, perhaps breathing all of the asbestos particles has coated my lungs making them inpenetrable by the covid?
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Clob,
My son's best friend since High School is a doctor, Dr Pat Coates, who has successfully treated many Cases of Caronavirus, in fact, he has become the de facto, specialist for Caronavirus in the North Texas/Dallas area and he now has a weekly radio show on KAAM 770 AM at 1:30 PM on Monday afternoons.
He successfully treats his Caronavirus patients with Hydroxychloroquine, I know, because that is what he prescribed for my son, when we thought he might have it, several months ago!
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I'm not a doctor or a scientist but I understand it as that you can't prove a negative. Basically you can't prove that there are no particles, just that the test did not detect any because it may have not been sensitive enough. No matter how much you test there is still a chance that the test missed something. For all practical purposes it's negative. Maybe someone on the board can explain it better or correct me if needed.
My point is this tho
I have also read some stories about people who go to get tested, then fill out their paperwork but get tired of waiting so they leave. They get a letter in the mail a week later saying they were positive for CoVID even though they never got tested, just filled out the paperwork.
I still think it’s weird how someone can test positive one day and the next day it be inconclusive is what I’ll call it. This happened to Joey Gallo, he plays for the Texas Rangers.
I have also read some stories about people who go to get tested, then fill out their paperwork but get tired of waiting so they leave. They get a letter in the mail a week later saying they were positive for CoVID even though they never got tested, just filled out the paperwork.
Our friend's dad died due to covid and her mom is also showing symptoms. Make that 13 cases we know of around the US. 3 dead.
I don't know what is more impressive. The great point you make, or the fact you are a sooner and you came up with a great point.
My wife works in the field and it doesnt matter how old or young you are, you can get covid. It's not a joke and you can be the healthiest person with no health conditions and still die from covid. There is another wave already here and the ERs are packed. Go test the waters and go to a busy hospital and go find out for yourselves. Be safe out there or not but covid is not a joke.
Well sounds like what I’ve come to expect a revolving perpetual shutdown of the country.
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