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Can TT beat. Gonzaga?

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I was wondering. For the second year in a row they've made the elite 8. If they beat Gonzaga tomorrow, doubtful, and go on to win the title will that be enough for them to stay relevant? In a couple of years the Big XII contact is up. Yes they're mediocre in fb. But since I started watching Big XII baseball I noticed they've been in the CWS 3 x in the last 5 years. But baseball is what 3rd or 4th billing in college sports? If the Big XII blows up in 2-3 years who else besides TX and OK will land on their own two feet? It's the slow time on this board right now and I wonder if there any opinions on the boys from the sand country. I don't call then sand aggies nobody is that retarded. Btw, I thoroughly enjoyed watching them not just beat a little 10 team but beat the stone cold hell out of them. The fact that it was MI made me enjoy it all the more.
 
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Tech has a decent chance. It's all depending on Jarett Culver's performance. This kid is a special player with a chance to be a perennial NBA all star. He needs to carry that team and will them to victory. He plays well they win. He's got superstar talent but is still so young and raw. We're going to see if he can handle the biggest game of his life. If he does lead them to victory, he's a legit top 3 draft pick. I love his game because he's not only an elite scorer but also an elite defender. Two way players like him are rare in the college game and in the NBA. He will be an immediate impact player in the NBA next season.

So, TT will only win if Culver has a huge game .
 
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Congratulations to Tech. That was an outstanding defensive performance. Culver had a below average shooting game but he still impacted the game with his defense and playmaking. He guarded their wings, guards and their bigs. That kind of versatility allows Tech to switch a lot defensively. They just needed to be decent offensively and execute the game plan. Very impressive. Culver will be a top 5 pick this June. His upside is scary. Reminds me of Kawhi Leonard. Elite defender plus fills the stat sheet with assists, rebounds, blocks and steals. Even more impressive is that he wasn't even a top 300 recruit. Great job by the Tech staff to bring him in. Announcer mentioned that he was a big Longhorn fan. I wonder if we even tried to recruit him. Most likely not... considering the ineptitude of Shaka's staff to identify and scout talent.
 
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Wth?

Hey give the raiders their due they deserved to win. But once again when it mattered most Gonzaga folded. Big time props for TT's defense.

Somebody above mentioned TX not recruiting Jarrett Culver. But Chris Beard went to UT was a team manager when Penders was coach.

Wth? He was available when we hired Shaka. And now it frustrates me that a school that doesn't have nowhere near the money and resources for a top notch basketball program as we do has made the elite 8 and now the Final 4. Hopefully Chris Del Conte is a shrewd judge of coaching talent. It's far fetched but will TT's making the Final 4 give him reason to make a coaching change? Hey last year the Toronto Raptors fired their coach after he won coach of the year.

Wth?
 
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Beard knows how to coach. His guys believe in their philosophy even though it isn't the most exciting brand of basketball to watch. It works though. It's the modern day 4 corners philosophy by shortening the game with limited possessions. They use the entire shot clock on just about every possession. That alone puts a lot of pressure on the opposing team to be much more efficient offensively. There's little room for mental errors or taking bad shots. Couple that with a swarming defense that has a solid rim protector plus they create a ton of turnovers and you have an elite defensive squad.

They play hard-nosed fundamental basketball. They don't run and gun and fire up threes and alley-oop lobs. It's the basketball equivalent of a run-first, and play tough defense and special teams football squad. It's not sexy but if you can control the game this way your opponent is helpless. They know what's coming but still can't stop it.

As for Shaka, he must go. He's all hype and is severely lacking in X's and O's. He made his mark in a conference that was very weak and he had one good team that made it to the Final Four with a team filled with veteran seniors and juniors. There are high school coaches in Texas that could develop players and coach them up better than him. Time for Chris DC to open up the vault and buy him out to rid us of the Steve Patterson failures that are still lingering. We don't necessarily need to bring in a high profile big name coach - just someone that knows how to coach and develop talent. If we did chase a big name, the guy I would try to get is Jay Wright from Villanova. Otherwise, a strong NBA assistant or even a former head coach with both college and NBA experience like Johnny Dawkins.
 
Beard knows how to coach. His guys believe in their philosophy even though it isn't the most exciting brand of basketball to watch. It works though. It's the modern day 4 corners philosophy by shortening the game with limited possessions. They use the entire shot clock on just about every possession. That alone puts a lot of pressure on the opposing team to be much more efficient offensively. There's little room for mental errors or taking bad shots. Couple that with a swarming defense that has a solid rim protector plus they create a ton of turnovers and you have an elite defensive squad.

They play hard-nosed fundamental basketball. They don't run and gun and fire up threes and alley-oop lobs. It's the basketball equivalent of a run-first, and play tough defense and special teams football squad. It's not sexy but if you can control the game this way your opponent is helpless. They know what's coming but still can't stop it.

As for Shaka, he must go. He's all hype and is severely lacking in X's and O's. He made his mark in a conference that was very weak and he had one good team that made it to the Final Four with a team filled with veteran seniors and juniors. There are high school coaches in Texas that could develop players and coach them up better than him. Time for Chris DC to open up the vault and buy him out to rid us of the Steve Patterson failures that are still lingering. We don't necessarily need to bring in a high profile big name coach - just someone that knows how to coach and develop talent. If we did chase a big name, the guy I would try to get is Jay Wright from Villanova. Otherwise, a strong NBA assistant or even a former head coach with both college and NBA experience like Johnny Dawkins.

Chris Beard is proof you don't need to go for a big name hire.
 
Well, two number one seeds lost in.the regional finals and a third needed overtime to win. So that have a number one, a number two, a number three, and a fifth seeded team in the Final 4. No clear cut favorite this weekend.
 
Congratulations to Tech. That was an outstanding defensive performance. Culver had a below average shooting game but he still impacted the game with his defense and playmaking. He guarded their wings, guards and their bigs. That kind of versatility allows Tech to switch a lot defensively. They just needed to be decent offensively and execute the game plan. Very impressive. Culver will be a top 5 pick this June. His upside is scary. Reminds me of Kawhi Leonard. Elite defender plus fills the stat sheet with assists, rebounds, blocks and steals. Even more impressive is that he wasn't even a top 300 recruit. Great job by the Tech staff to bring him in. Announcer mentioned that he was a big Longhorn fan. I wonder if we even tried to recruit him. Most likely not... considering the ineptitude of Shaka's staff to identify and scout talent.
Supposedly we had an assistant implore Shaka to go and recruit Culver and Carson Edwards at Purdue who lit up everyone in the tourny, and Shaka couldnt even make the trip. Culver is from Lubbock. Edwards from Atascocita. Couldn't even make the trip! Both were Longhorn fans growing up and wanted to play here
 
Supposedly we had an assistant implore Shaka to go and recruit Culver and Carson Edwards at Purdue who lit up everyone in the tourny, and Shaka couldnt even make the trip. Culver is from Lubbock. Edwards from Atascocita. Couldn't even make the trip! Both were Longhorn fans growing up and wanted to play here
If true---- wow.
 
Even more galling is that Chris Beard was a manager on the basketball team with Penders was the coach. And we didnt even notice.
 
Supposedly we had an assistant implore Shaka to go and recruit Culver and Carson Edwards at Purdue who lit up everyone in the tourny, and Shaka couldnt even make the trip. Culver is from Lubbock. Edwards from Atascocita. Couldn't even make the trip! Both were Longhorn fans growing up and wanted to play here

Speechless. But also not at all surprised at something like this, to be honest. Shaka's organizational incompetence is a force of nature.
 
Even more galling is that Chris Beard was a manager on the basketball team with Penders was the coach. And we didnt even notice.

Well, in fairness, Beard hadn't done anything yet when we went after Shaka. He hadn't even coached in Division I yet.
 
Well, in fairness, Beard hadn't done anything yet when we went after Shaka. He hadn't even coached in Division I yet.

If I remember correctly he was as asst at TT when Bobby Knight was there. Then he was coaching at a couple of small colleges in TX when Shaka was hired. They plucked him from AR Little Rock. Whenever we make the coaching change this is an indication that we don't have to make a big splash. Apparently he's divorced but he has 3 young daughters that live in Lubbock he's there for the long haul. And hey kudos to their ad Kirby Hocutt for that hire.
 
Well in women's bb Baylor is back in the title game. At the beginning of the season I saw where they beat U Conn and they haven't lost since. I can understand why some people don't like Kim Mulkey. Today a lot of players like to do a trash dance on the other teams field/court. It's immature but a few years ago KM pulled that stunt at OSU and when a coach does it it's downright ignorant. I don't like Urban Meyer but there's no denying the man's a great coach and the same goes for KM. I'm not trying to excuse KM's behavior but Geno Auriemma takes arrogance to a whole nother level. If U Conn beats ND there'll be a rematch on Sunday night and in the lesser of two unlikable people I will pull for Baylor. Besides I would enjoy watching GA get embarrassed in a title game on national tv.

And I won't believe it unless it happens the fact remains that time Big XII is three wins away from sweeping the men's and women's bb titles. Man what is ESPN going to do if that happens? I'll bet most of them couldn't name all the Big XII schools. Chris Fowler and Dick Vitale probably think there are 12 schools in the Big XII because that's their name.
 
I don't watch women's basketball, but I've seen enough of both Mulkey and Auriemma to make me dislike both of them. Both are extremely arrogant. I hope that Notre Dame beats UConn and wins it all.
 
I don't watch women's basketball, but I've seen enough of both Mulkey and Auriemma to make me dislike both of them. Both are extremely arrogant. I hope that Notre Dame beats UConn and wins it all.

I understand but my second favorite team has always been whoever is playing ND. Talk about insufferable and self righteous. Remember the comic strip Tank McNamara? It was a sports page comic. They used to refer to ND as the university without sin. And it's been 31 years and counting since the ND won a nc in fb. Not going to lie I enjoy that.
 
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Well the Big XII is now 2 wins away from sweeping the basketball championships. Even though I don't have a dog in this hunt winning these 2 games would be huge in your face to ESPN.

MI is one little 10 school I've never liked but with TT's last two wins the great lake state is now their bitch. And in both games MI and MSU were higher ranked and in both games they lost by double digit margins. F the whole state of MI.
 
Well the Big XII is now 2 wins away from sweeping the basketball championships. Even though I don't have a dog in this hunt winning these 2 games would be huge in your face to ESPN.

MI is one little 10 school I've never liked but with TT's last two wins the great lake state is now their bitch. And in both games MI and MSU were higher ranked and in both games they lost by double digit margins. F the whole state of MI.

I'm pulling for ND in the chick ball final. Can't stand Mulkey.
 
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I'm pulling for ND in the chick ball final. Can't stand Mulkey.

Look I don't give a damn if it's Kim Mulkey. It was the Golden Domers and they had numerous opportunities to win and they choked when it mattered most. Otoh Baylor didn't and they're the champs. Just can't stand the Golden Domers never have never will.

I've been in Cali for 15 years and for the most part I'm still happy if a TX college brings home a title.There are a few exceptions of course the cow college, Houston, SMU. Really what i resent are the media's shameless homerism (yes I lnow it's not really a word) towards the southern schools and the little ten. It's still TX pride for me.
 
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And now it's down to one more game for the Big XII and the bb sweep. Can you imagine ESPN if it were the SEC or the little ten that pulled the sweep? I mean it would turn into the equivalent of a circle jerk frenzy if they did.
 
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Look I don't give a damn if it's Kim Mulkey. It was the Golden Domers and they had numerous opportunities to win and they choked when it mattered most. Otoh Baylor didn't and they're the champs. Just can't stand the Golden Domers never have never will.

I've been in Cali for 15 years and for the most part I'm still happy if a TX college brings home a title.There are a few exceptions of course the cow college, Houston, SMU. Really what i resent are the media's shameless homerism (yes I lnow it's not really a word) towards the southern schools and the little ten. It's still TX pride for me.
Well there's that and you are exposed to an entirely different local and regional sports broadcasters than we are. Obviously we all see the national broadcasters, but you've got Cali sports personalities that moved there from east coast schools and have their bias.

Btw---- how are things growing in Humboldt County?
 
And now it's down to one more game for the Big XII and the bb sweep. Can you imagine ESPN if it were the SEC or the little ten that pulled the sweep? I mean it would turn into the equivalent of a circle jerk frenzy if they did.
Oh dude--- bald headed slap nut that is the SEC Homer, Finebaum, would be self fellating all day on his show tomorrow.
 
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Well there's that and you are exposed to an entirely different local and regional sports broadcasters than we are. Obviously we all see the national broadcasters, but you've got Cali sports personalities that moved there from east coast schools and have their bias.

Btw---- how are things growing in Humboldt County?

Well I've seen a little bit of the Pac XII network and the personalities put me to sleep every time.

In regards to Humboldt county are you thinking of Paradise? That's Butte. As far as Humboldt goes I quit smoking marijuana so there's no reason for me to go there anymore lol.
 
Well I've seen a little bit of the Pac XII network and the personalities put me to sleep every time.

In regards to Humboldt county are you thinking of Paradise? That's Butte. As far as Humboldt goes I quit smoking marijuana so there's no reason for me to go there anymore lol.
Oh you knew what I was talking about you rascally rabbit.
 
Not to.surprising 5 out 6 on ESPN have picked VA. One of them is Dick Vitale and when Dick Vitale picks you to win you're f'd.
 
With a little bit of knowledge I'm picking

TT 66
VA 57

I hope you’re wrong, but this sounds about right to me. I might even move the volume of scoring a little lower, though. Like TT 62, UVA 53.

I also think there’s a fair chance that TT just straight up pistol-whips UVA. Bennett’s big-stage choking tendencies have just been dying to express themselves again, and Tech seems utterly fearless. Maybe the Red Raiders just blast them off the court.

But what the hell do I know...
 
Tariq Owens' presence and ability to protect the rim is essential for Tech to win. He's going to give it a go but if this were a regular season game he would have to sit out. He not only is able to protect the paint but he's mobile enough to guard out on the perimeter with his mobility and foot speed. This allows Tech to switch every screen and keep opponents in front of them and out of the paint. Even when they allow penetration, Owens is quick enough to get back in the play and block/alter shots. If he can't be effective in moving his feet, it's going to be tough to defend the way they're used to.

This is going to be a good game to watch because these teams play like the way college basketball used to be played. Notice there aren't any HS one and done prima donnas in this game? These are guys who have truly bought in and are 100% committed to their teams, universities and coaching staffs.

Can't wait for the 1 and done era to be done next season. College basketball the past 10 years has been basically an extension of AAU ball with all these one year players.
 
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