Charlie Lawsuit

[clob94]

So my phone went off this morning like 5 times (I sleep in on Sundays unless I go to church) and all five texts are asking me about Charlie Strong's peen.... and where it's been. Something about a lawsuit. I can't find anything but the player who said he got beat up in a locker room in 2012 and the case was thrown out of court. Wtf is going on? Anybody?

 

[Son of Wasatch]

I thought there was a lawsuit that named Louisville and Strong by former player with regard to getting either more free education or getting kicked off the team.

I don't remember the case but thought it was kicked out.

 

[Dogged Horn]

So my phone went off this morning like 5 times (I sleep in on Sundays unless I go to church) and all five texts are asking me about Charlie Strong's peen.... and where it's been. Something about a lawsuit. I can't find anything but the player who said he got beat up in a locker room in 2012 and the case was thrown out of court. Wtf is going on? Anybody?

Give us a break!

 

[clob94]

Give us a break!

Dogged, first of all I don't like your tone. Second of all, when aggy friends of mine talk sh!t, I kind of like to know WTF is going on before I open my mouth and respond. Google did't show me sh!t so I came to this forum, A RELIABLE forum filled with people whose opinions is usually value, to find out WTF is going on. You're being part of the problem NOT the solution. Stop being part of the problem please and contribute.

 

[clob94]

Nevermind Dogged, another google search shows and article written a scant 15 minutes ago about it.

SMDH--- so what? She gave him a watch. Hubby is leaving her and looking for a reason to take her to the cleaners so he wants to see if Charlie ever made a pass at her. I'm quite certain there are 50 dudes he's having investigated as well. It's called Alienation of affection. It's a law in about 8 states where one spouse can claim his/her spouse was lured away by someone else. I was accused of it years ago in a Mississippi court. Totally untrue. This is a non story. But thanks for your response Dogged.

 

[Maverick1971]

I heard something last night and googled "Charlie Strong". The first 3-4 hits reference a divorce of a UL board member and his wife. Strong has been subpoenaed to testify and it also requires him to produce cell phone records and possible gifts exchanged between Strong and the wife. Not sure if the board member is alleging affair, looks like that may be it.

 

[TX1972]

Can a state court enforce a subpoena for a civil matter in another state? Best of my knowledge, no. Interesting seem to be no lawyers on this board, since a disproportionate number went to UT. If no, then he could not be served unless in Kentucky.

 

[Dogged Horn]

Dogged, first of all I don't like your tone. Second of all, when aggy friends of mine talk sh!t, I kind of like to know WTF is going on before I open my mouth and respond. Google did't show me sh!t so I came to this forum, A RELIABLE forum filled with people whose opinions is usually value, to find out WTF is going on. You're being part of the problem NOT the solution. Stop being part of the problem please and contribute.

Tone is in the ear of the reader. If you read this board before starting a new thread, you would have all of the information you apparently seek; and you would know that Imhave actually contributed.

 

[clob94]

Well dogged, my tone was intended to be a tone of "Hey fellas, I've some some ahole friends that are aggys that are talking smack to me about our coach and making jokes that make no sense and Google isn't flaming with articles with charlie's name plastered all over them and for my aggy friends to all in unity be talking this much crap, surely something earth shattering has happened, anybody have a clue?"

 

[Maverick1971]

Can a state court enforce a subpoena for a civil matter in another state? Best of my knowledge, no. Interesting seem to be no lawyers on this board, since a disproportionate number went to UT. If no, then he could not be served unless in Kentucky.

Yes.
Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 45 allows service of civil subpoenas anywhere in the united states.

 

[clob94]

This is low even by aggy standards. Having been a part of one of these in the past, here's what I can say:

Divorce is ugly. Two of my friends (the female grew up my next to next door neighbor) (the male lived in the next neighborhood) got married years ago and I was a groomsman. They moved to south memphis in mississippi. Had kids, he made some money, she was a college grad but he wanted her to be a house wife and raise the kids. She agreed and then one day their marriage started to slide. She would call me from time to time to talk about things. HE would do the same. One thing led to another and everybody started hating everybody else. It got uglier with words being thrown around as well as accusations. He filed for divorce, she sought child support alimony, wanted the house, bank account, etc. He accused her of cheating and then subpoenas her phone records and then subpoenas every male friend she has for their phone records and files for Alienation of affection. Sounds to me the dude is throwing every male friend of hers under the bus to see if anything will stick. He wants to obliterate her and doesn't care who he has to affect to do it. I've been there. It cost me my friendship with both parties.

Witch hunts are brutal and through seemingly no fault of his own, Charlie is being dragged into this. It's bullsh!t and for aggy to be chirping about it shows you how low they are willing to stoop to try and besmirch a program that are no longer their "rival".

 

[clob94]

Top gum, please explain how it's not required. I'd like to know as I was required to do the same years ago as ordered by the judge and the state of Mississippi.

 

[Maverick1971]

Top gum, please explain how it's not required. I'd like to know as I was required to do the same years ago as ordered by the judge and the state of Mississippi.

Are you talking about a subpoena? My response earlier is that you can be served out of state.

 

[speedstrength]

Question for the attorneys out there. Why is he going after Strong's phone records and emails? Seems like if he was in contact with the wife all they would have to do is get the Wife's phone records and emails. Or is this just a fishing expedition to see if something else will turn up?

 

[clob94]

It's fishing. This is a blood feud over millions of bucks.

 

[Bass Elder]

This smoke concerns me.

Find one phone call or email...let the spin/haymaking kick into high gear to rake Strong over the coals. Strong cannot afford to have one ounce of findings against him and still keep his current high integrity ratings intact.

 

[BringBackRoyal]

Yes.
Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 45 allows service of civil subpoenas anywhere in the united states.

The Federal Rules govern civil procedure in federal courts. There is no federal court involved in this case.

 

[Walt Longmire]

Yes.
Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 45 allows service of civil subpoenas anywhere in the united states.

Are you an attorney?

 

[ThreeCardMonte]

This is not a fishing scenario with regards to the subpoena. UofL fan here. You don't have an exchange of jewelry and the like, as well as CS's past reputation here (not exactly being on the up and up) without something going on.

Yes, it's an affair. And for what it's worth, it makes UofL look bad, like we needed more unwanted attention related to people's personal lives.

 

[clob94]

Nasser Al Rasheed gave Mack Brown a Rolex when he came to Texas------ pretty sure he wasn't hittin it.

 

[LegendaryLarry]

This is not a fishing scenario with regards to the subpoena. UofL fan here. You don't have an exchange of jewelry and the like, as well as CS's past reputation here (not exactly being on the up and up) without something going on.

Yes, it's an affair. And for what it's worth, it makes UofL look bad, like we needed more unwanted attention related to people's personal lives.

That's a pretty quick leap to an affair. Yeah, you may say the list of items being requested might be some smoke, but it could be discovery occurring to a list of people versus only Strong.

And how exactly does Louisville and unwanted attention go in the same sentence when you hired an SEC coach known for giving motorcycle rides to his latest screw?

 

[Zhorn]

Mav is wrong. You don't have a Federal case with a divorce. Rule 45 does not apply. For that matter no FRCP apply.

 

[TX1972]

Mav is wrong. You don't have a Federal case with a divorce. Rule 45 does not apply. For that matter no FRCP apply.

So he doesn't have to respond.

 

[Top Gum]

So he doesn't have to respond.

Neither does Mav. But he will. He's an Aggie. He can't help himself.

 

[Zhorn]

So he doesn't have to respond.

Nope. I can't figure why a Kentucky court would think it could compel a non-party, non-resident to do anything. So why would a Texas court get involved.
Going to do some research tomorrow.

 

[TX1972]

Neither does Mav. But he will. He's an Aggie. He can't help himself.

So Mav has the right to remain silent but not the ability.

 

[Longyac]

This is not a fishing scenario with regards to the subpoena. UofL fan here. You don't have an exchange of jewelry and the like, as well as CS's past reputation here (not exactly being on the up and up) without something going on.

Yes, it's an affair. And for what it's worth, it makes UofL look bad, like we needed more unwanted attention related to people's personal lives.

Hate to tell you it isn't a subpoena until a judge signs it. At this point it is a request for discovery.

 

[BringBackRoyal]

So he doesn't have to respond.

I'm less familiar with state court practice in general and even less so with Texas courts in particular, so I'll defer to anyone with expertise in those areas, but I'm not sure the situation is so simple. From my very cursory research, it seems to me that an out-of-state party can serve a subpoena for depositions and discovery on a non-party Texas resident.

The out-of-state party will seek an order from the trial state court requiring the discovery sought. Then the party will open a miscellaneous (or ancillary) proceeding in Texas before serving the subpoena on the non-party in accordance with state civil procedure rules, which will secure the jurisdiction of a Texas court over any issues arising in connection with the discovery subpoena (e.g., objections to the subpoena, discovery and deposition disputes, motions to compel discovery). If the party seeking discovery does not open an ancillary proceeding in Texas before serving, then it appears no mechanism will exist for compelling compliance with a subpoena served on a non-party Texas resident.

I have no idea whether there is some sort of threshold showing required above and beyond obtaining the issuance of an order from the trial state court that Texas courts require before a discovery subpoena will issue. In any case, if the subpoena issues, any objections on the part of the non-party Texas resident would be directed to the state court in which the ancillary proceeding was opened.

 

[BringBackRoyal]

Are you an attorney?

Let's hope not. God only knows why he's citing the Federal Rules as governing authority for procedures in a divorce case in a Kentucky state court.

 

[Tired Horn]

Charlie issue a statement - anybody in the twitter world can you post it.

 

[LegendaryLarry]

Charlie issue a statement - anybody in the twitter world can you post it.

 

[CoachEmUp64]

From what I've read Charlie can basically tell the Kentucky court to F off until a Texas court steps in and says you have to do this. Which is very unlikely to happen. Also sounds like there are 7 others including Charlie who were served. So the husband is trying to find anything he can use. Going to be a brutal divorce. Hope Charlie comes out clean

 

[BringBackRoyal]

From what I've read Charlie can basically tell the Kentucky court to F off until a Texas court steps in and says you have to do this. Which is very unlikely to happen.

I'd like to hear someone who practices in Texas courts say whether this is the case. As I said above, it appears that there are certainly procedures by which an out-of-state party can secure discovery from a non-party Texas resident, but I'd like to hear whether the standard for getting to Texas court to issue a discovery subpoena requires more than simply getting the court in the trial state to first issue an order for discovery.

 

[Longyac]

From what I've read Charlie can basically tell the Kentucky court to F off until a Texas court steps in and says you have to do this. Which is very unlikely to happen. Also sounds like there are 7 others including Charlie who were served. So the husband is trying to find anything he can use. Going to be a brutal divorce. Hope Charlie comes out clean

A judge in Kentucky will decide what of that discovery wish list is actually relevant. Then once the judge signs the subpoena, for that deemed relevant, Strong can be compelled to comply in Texas.

Keep in mind we'll likely never know the true details, as they will almost certainly be sealed 'for the children's sake.' That is not to say there won't be more leaks involved.

 

[HornosaurusRex]

Moorer almost cracking a grin.

Hook 'em