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Coaches on the HOT seat

The Longhorns need to win six, while playing respectably in any loss to forestall an early exit by coach Strong, in my opinion. I believe we will win eight; more if we get a few good bounces. I also expect us to close with another top ten class in February and be contending for the conference and a playoff spot in '17. If Herman beats okie and Texas does not get it done, that might also crank up the chatter.

"Charlie Strong, Texas
Strong hasn’t gotten much of an opportunity to show what he can do at Texas, and if he doesn’t finish his third season competing for the Big 12 title, he probably never will. Strong is 11-14 in his two seasons and while the Longhorns have shown some flashes of greatness there also have been times when they’ve been unexpectedly flat. It’s unclear what kind of season Strong would need to stay in Austin — at the very least a winning one — but things will heat up fast if Tom Herman, a man many want to see in burnt orange, leads Houston to another stellar season."


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Other than sumlin, that list has some quality coaches. Strong, Miles, Malzahn, and Holgerson. It is just plain bad luck that Miles is coaching in the same era as Saban(Who I would say is the best coach ever). Otherwise, LSU would have dominated.

So you consider Holgerson to be a quality coach but not Sumlin? Interesting.
 
So you consider Holgerson to be a quality coach but not Sumlin? Interesting.
I am seriously not taking a shot at a&m. a&m has many many more resources than WV yet he does as well. I'll retract at season's end if Sumlin does well this season. It just seems that a&m is on a downward trajectory.
 
So you consider Holgerson to be a quality coach but not Sumlin? Interesting.
Holgerson does more with less---- we can have that debate all day and twice on Sunday.

However, after Tuesday I think you'd surrender...... or tell me that "you just ran out of time"....
 
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Holgerson does more with less---- we can have that debate all day and twice on Sunday.

However, after Tuesday I think you'd surrender...... or tell me that "you just ran out of time"....
 
I am seriously not taking a shot at a&m. a&m has many many more resources than WV yet he does as well. I'll retract at season's end if Sumlin does well this season. It just seems that a&m is on a downward trajectory.

Holgersen had a really nice first year in 2011 in the Big East Conference. Since moving to the Big 12 he has not been impressive. He's in the Mike Leach mold.
 
It does appear to be a downward trajectory, just like going from 6-7 and being in a bowl to going 5-7 and missing a bowl. Lesser time perhaps, but same trajectory. I think this year will be very pivotal for A&M AND Texas.
 
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I think West Virgina might be tough to deal with this year. Strong may be on the hot seat right this minuite. Don't think his job is in any danger. Think at worst were gonna win 7 games and probably more. If Tom Herrman is coming to Austin he will have to wait.
 
It does appear to be a downward trajectory, just like going from 6-7 and being in a bowl to going 5-7 and missing a bowl. Lesser time perhaps, but same trajectory. I think this year will be very pivotal for A&M AND Texas.
Nothing whatsoever is comparable between the program you follow and ours. The coaches, the kids, what the coach started with, where the two programs are/were at year three under their coach, nothing.
 
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Nothing except the downward trajectory.
Strong's first two years obviously didn't go well. But he's turned over the roster at this point and gotten what look to be good coaches now. We're optimistic in year 3 under Strong that he's righted the ship. Can you say the same for your program in year 5 under Rumlin? I disagree with your premise. I think our program is heading up, yours has reached its middle of the road equilibrium.
 
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Nothing except the downward trajectory.
Would like to agree but can't. A&M has many potential loses on the schedule: Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, LSU, Mississippi, & Tennessee.
What are Texas's possible loses: OU, Baylor, TCU? Who else? Texas is going to win 9 games if they are overrated. If they aren't overrated they might win 12. Schedule matters, and they have a great one.
 
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I'm not taking any game for granted. We look good but we also need to stay healthy at the QB position to continue our success.
 
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At Lubbock and at Stillwater are no gimmes.
I haven't watched Okie lite this year, so you might be right. I was just basing on lose to Michigan directional school.
I have watched Tech. They somehow got worse on D, didn’t think it was possible. Cal 2.0 imho.
 
Those locations are equalizers, especially Lubbock. You should know this.
 
Those locations are equalizers, especially Lubbock. You should know this.
Not Lubbock this year. Just run it every play. They will have zero interest is tackling Foreman. If you try to throw it 40 times, maybe.
 
Hope you're right. History says otherwise though. Tech can jump up and get you at any time out there.
 
Nothing except the downward trajectory.
Even that is a wash, Strong flipped a roster that is now more than 70% underclassmen. Didn't have a QB, Heard is obviously a better receiver, Swoopes found a niche and David Ash had concussion issues while Rumlin had JFF to ride.

The records aren't a telling sign of anything between the two squads. Sumlin has gone down from year 1 to 5, Strong looks to have made that turn? We will know in a few weeks.
 
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Even that is a wash, Strong flipped a roster that is now more than 70% underclassmen. Didn't have a QB, Heard is obviously a better receiver, Swoopes found a niche and David Ash had concussion issues while Rumlin had JFF to ride.

The records aren't a telling sign of anything between the two squads.
True. If we played you this year, it would be a very competitive game. I like your team better for 2017. I think Charlie will be safe come December, I'd put Sumlin at 50/50.
You guys are pretty good, and sucked bad enough the last couple years that fans would be happy with 8 wins. I think you win 9+. Not sure who beats you. I really think you have a shot at the playoffs, which we do not.

OU is probably still the favorite, but they are a finesse team with an excellent coach. Their line play is overrated imo. If they beat Ohio State, then of course they will be the run away favorites, but that would shock me. Don't have the Jimmy's and Joe's Ohio State does. Baylor is probably the other biggest threat, but who knows with their schedule. They can't have much depth, and they lost a soulless coach, who was awesome on game day. Patterson is a great coach, but I think you will be too physical for them. They looked good but tiny vs. Arkansas.
 
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True. If we played you this year, it would be a very competitive game. I like your team better for 2017. I think Charlie will be safe come December, I'd put Sumlin at 50/50.
You guys are pretty good, and sucked bad enough the last couple years that fans would be happy with 8 wins. I think you win 9+. Not sure who beats you. I really think you have a shot at the playoffs, which we do not.

OU is probably still the favorite, but they are a finesse team with an excellent coach. Their line play is overrated imo. Baylor is probably the other biggest threat, but who knows with their schedule. They can't have much depth, and they lost a soulless coach, who was awesome on game day. Patterson is a great coach, but I think you will be too physical for them. They looked good but tiny vs. Arkansas.
I would rather have TCU early than the last game. I'll go as far as to say, should Texas get to 5-0. Look out.

My outlook this season...............One game at a time.
 
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I would rather have TCU early than the last game. I'll go as far as to say, should Texas get to 5-0. Look out.

My outlook this season...............One game at a time.
100% agree on the TCU timing, Patterson has a little Bill Snyder in him. Does not need the better players to win a game.
You are smart to look at it game by game, but the table is setup about as nicely as it gets. Get in the playoffs and you never know. Better team doesn't always win, but that is probably too much to ask.
 
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Other than sumlin, that list has some quality coaches. Strong, Miles, Malzahn, and Holgerson. It is just plain bad luck that Miles is coaching in the same era as Saban(Who I would say is the best coach ever). Otherwise, LSU would have dominated.
Hard to put Strong on that list when his time at Texas has been a disaster up until this season. I'm not sold on Sumlin, in fact I'd be just fine if he got fired today, but Strong hasn't established himself as anything yet.
 
Hard to put Strong on that list when his time at Texas has been a disaster up until this season. I'm not sold on Sumlin, in fact I'd be just fine if he got fired today, but Strong hasn't established himself as anything yet.
Sure he has. A 10 win season at Louisville and a big time bowl win against Flordia got him the job. Not to mention a lot of his recruits from Louisville have ended up in the NFL. The jury still may be out for a little longer on him at Texas(although it appears to be trending up). There is little doubt though that Strong is a good football coach.
 
Hard to put Strong on that list when his time at Texas has been a disaster up until this season. I'm not sold on Sumlin, in fact I'd be just fine if he got fired today, but Strong hasn't established himself as anything yet.
True but Texas has too much invested at this point to cut ties. Buechele seems like he has tools to be a good qb so that may help turn things around this year. Probably needs to win at least 8 games.
 
Hard to put Strong on that list when his time at Texas has been a disaster up until this season. I'm not sold on Sumlin, in fact I'd be just fine if he got fired today, but Strong hasn't established himself as anything yet.
Seems to be duplicating his pattern at Louisville as folks have been saying would occur, all along! Trolls are those like BD that are rather clueless to the process.
 
This will be Strong's first season that he actually produces tangible hope. So far it's just been a lot of stars on signing day and a lot of WTF on the offense, and even some WTF on defense. Even with only 7 or 8 wins he still has something tangible in a bright young QB, so he's not going anywhere. Barring some monumental cluster %#&@ this won't be a losing season.

The ND win doesn't prove Strong is the guy, but it definitely turned off the burners for a bit.
 
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Seems to be duplicating his pattern at Louisville as folks have been saying would occur, all along! Trolls are those like BD that are rather clueless to the process.

I agree and disagree. I think he's filling the rosters with a lot of talent, but he's had to deviate from the Louisville blueprint a lot on the offensive side of the ball.
 
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Would like to agree but can't. A&M has many potential loses on the schedule: Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, LSU, Mississippi, & Tennessee.
What are Texas's possible loses: OU, Baylor, TCU? Who else? Texas is going to win 9 games if they are overrated. If they aren't overrated they might win 12. Schedule matters, and they have a great one.

Hilarious. The detractors have gone from Strong will be luck to be any better than 4-8 to there are only a 2-3 teams, on the schedule, that can beat Texas in only a two week span.

Fire up the moving goal post gif.

We play at the Purple Wizards for another team that can beat our Horns. Haven't won in Manhattan since 2002.
 
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