Could This Be

[Bwilk55]

Well, we didn't repeat the following yr and we haven't won anything but a bowl since then so whats not to be a fluke? We haven't gone undefeated since then, our FB team and FB program fell apart, I would say it was a fluke that we had a guy named VY and he could do what he did, once in a lifetime thing..


Hook'em

FBH, are you okay? Did you hit your head while celebrating the victory? You are usually so high on the horns, but calling the 2004-05 season a fluke? We were an elite team leading up to that season and continued to be elite for 4 years after. Please explain how it was a fluke. Also, if you did hit your head, please present to the nearest Emergency room, I think you may have a subdural hematoma.

 

[FlourBluffHorn]

FBH, are you okay? Did you hit your head while celebrating the victory? You are usually so high on the horns, but calling the 2004-05 season a fluke? We were an elite team leading up to that season and continued to be elite for 4 years after. Please explain how it was a fluke. Also, if you did hit your head, please present to the nearest Emergency room, I think you may have a subdural hematoma.

maybe it was harsh of me to say that, I shoulda said a one time deal the way it played out and hasn't repeated itself since, so maybe fluke wasn't the word I shoulda used, it really doesn't matter anyway as my opinion doesn't move the earth..LOL! I am still high on the Horns...

Hook'em

 

[Bwilk55]

maybe it was harsh of me to say that, I shoulda said a one time deal the way it played out and hasn't repeated itself since, so maybe harsh wasn't the word I shoulda used, I mean other Teams have repeated including the one that beat us for the second one, so what would you call it?

Hook'em

I'd call it the highpoint of an elite decade. Heck, Alabama is in a league of their own (USC almost go there but got derailed by us and cheating) with their ability to compete every year. But, most elite programs when they are at their best cycle between 10-13 (now 14) wins yearly. That's exactly what we did leading up to and then again after the 05 championship. We reached the precipice of that high point again in 2010 but we all know the story from there. Hopefully this year is the start of another successful decade (or century).

 

[FlourBluffHorn]

I'd call it the highpoint of an elite decade. Heck, Alabama is in a league of their own (USC almost go there but got derailed by us and cheating) with their ability to compete every year. But, most elite programs when they are at their best cycle between 10-13 (now 14) wins yearly. That's exactly what we did leading up to and then again after the 05 championship. We reached the precipice of that high point again in 2010 but we all know the story from there. Hopefully this year is the start of another successful decade (or century).

All we can do is pray that it will happen and then we can get back to where we belong, at the top.


Hook'em

 

[DocAg]

No world beaters on our schedule. The only world beater I can think of is Alabama, to be honest. So there are about 110 schools without a world beater on their schedule. If OU beats tOSU then I'd say they're still quite good (and that maybe Houston is damn good too). We'll see.

Meanwhile, your schedule just got a bit easier: LSU, Tenn, Miss State, Arkansas, SC all either looked bad against weak opponents or lost. And Auburn and Ole Miss lost to what may be a good teams. Your schedule has 1 world beater and 11 other whatever teams.

What I'm saying is that you have teams that are not even in the same zip code talent wise. Even when Texas has a bad recruiting year at maybe 15th or so in the country that is still good enough to be ahead of everyone else except OU on occasions. This last year Big 12 schools not named Texas finished 20th, 38th, 46th, 48th, 53rd, 56th and so on.
SEC schools meanwhile finished 1st, 5th, 8th, 9th, 11th, 14th, 15th, 25th, 27th, 29th, 32nd and so on. My point is this is how it is year in and year out. Those teams do have the talent and more than we have so we can't just go push those guys around. Texas has so much more talent than everyone else that they should just be able to line up and push people around. Texas has many weeks where they can play a C game and still win.

 

[Scholz]

What I'm saying is that you have teams that are not even in the same zip code talent wise.

Absolutely incorrect and absolutely dishonest.

 

[DocAg]

Absolutely incorrect and absolutely dishonest.

How is that incorrect and dishonest? You don't think Texas has and always will have superior talent to everyone except OU? Sure some schools pick up some nice athletes, but they don't have the depth that Texas will always have. Texas will see their 5 or 6 good athletes and raise them 30.

 

[Bwilk55]

How is that incorrect and dishonest? You don't think Texas has and always will have superior talent to everyone except OU? Sure some schools pick up some nice athletes, but they don't have the depth that Texas will always have. Texas will see their 5 or 6 good athletes and raise them 30.

In two years it will be much more true than now. Our Junior and Senior class have a few gems but they are not full classes of studs. The soph and freshmen on the other hand... That said, there are only a few cake walks in the big 12 (kansas, Iowa St.) where even the most talented teams can simply push around, similar to the several doormats in the SEC.

 

[Scholz]

How is that incorrect and dishonest?

To say their talent isn't in the same zip code as ours couldn't be a bigger lie. It's just ridiculous and shows your bias against UT. That's how.

 

[obviouslyZRH]

What I'm saying is that you have teams that are not even in the same zip code talent wise. Even when Texas has a bad recruiting year at maybe 15th or so in the country that is still good enough to be ahead of everyone else except OU on occasions. This last year Big 12 schools not named Texas finished 20th, 38th, 46th, 48th, 53rd, 56th and so on.
SEC schools meanwhile finished 1st, 5th, 8th, 9th, 11th, 14th, 15th, 25th, 27th, 29th, 32nd and so on. My point is this is how it is year in and year out. Those teams do have the talent and more than we have so we can't just go push those guys around. Texas has so much more talent than everyone else that they should just be able to line up and push people around. Texas has many weeks where they can play a C game and still win.

I see what you're saying about recruiting, and to some extent I agree - it's not likely to just go and out-physical Alabama or LSU or whatever. But, having seen the discrepancy between the classes Texas has pulled in and the on-field performance in the last years makes me wary to give recruiting too much weight. The team is more than the players, and sometimes the players matter less than the coaches... Thujone's 2016 season preview claimed Nick Saban + "literally any household object at QB" = National Champs. And also, those recruiting rankings only make the recent losses/near losses highlight other problems that much more.

I just don't think the median Big 12 team is so much worse than the median SEC team. Again, we'll have to wait a few weeks and see. The road for Texas to the playoff may be easier than A&Ms, but the road to the trophy is basically the same. The world beater will need to be beaten at some point on either road.