Dealing with a Delusional fanbase

[Bwilk55]

I just needed a place to vent about some of the things I see posted on aggy message boards. It is self inflicted sure, but I do follow Longhorn Frenzy on twitter and he posts screenshots of some of the craziest stuff that pops up across aggy message boards. I'm sure you could do the same with some Texas message boards.

Before I start:
- I am not really interested in arguing with an aggies about these things. That's why I would never respond to their threads or tweets. If they end up here, fine, but I don't see a lot of benefit in that
- That said, I have a hard time not chiming in and refuting some of the stuff they post. It is often factually inaccurate, or opinions/rumors that they start using as facts.
- I just needed to get some of this out and maybe get some rational feedback

There have been a ton of things recently that could be discussed but if you don't follow any aggy message boards (or Longhorn Frenzy) here are a few recent examples:

1. Aggies believe that the Texas staff asked Vernon Broughton to postpone his commitment until after Haynes King (a top QB recruit) committed to aggy. That way, Vernon could announce his commitment to combat the aggy recruiting momentum. It's crazy to even have this thought, as if Texas is constantly plotting to combat aggy recruiting. Sure, we keep tabs on our main recruiting rivals but to think that we had a top recruit in Broughton, that we weren't even sure of, hold off on a commitment so that he could drop it after a Aggy QB recruit with an uncertain timeline and unclear school of choice makes no sense. And yet, once this idea is floated around the boards, others start referring to it as a certainty and start discussing how pathetic Herman is for using such a tactic. There was no tactic here!

2. Aggies are convinced about an overarching BOMC (burnt orange media conspiracy). ESPN is of course in on this as are the recruiting sites (I think they are most suspicious of 24/7). Their biggest thing these days are to freak out anytime the recruiting sites bump up Texas commits in the rankings. Remember freak athlete and 2019 commit Tyler Owens who popped up late on the scene last year. Yeah, aggy was convinced his ratings bump was all contrived. They now obsess over this and were already complaining about the increases our most recent commit, Van Fillinger has had. Mind you, no one knew Van was coming to Texas until today and his ranking hasn't increased since June. Oh, and he is one of our lowest ranked recruits who is currently having little impact on our overall recruiting ranking.

Just a few things that have bothered me recently. Has anyone else noticed this?

 

[clob94]

Yes I have. Aggy argument is that there are 3 star recruits out there and once texas makes them an offer, they magically become a 4 star recruit. And after they sign with Texas, they get magically upgraded again to a 5 star recruit.

 

[2300 Nueces]

It's best to ignore their idiocy. Let the season play out and enjoy.

 

[Oldmanastro]

I hear you and agree wholeheartedly. I’m glad you got that out of your system and hopefully lowers your stress level.
I love reading Longhorn frenzy, it’s my favorite thread on Hornsports.
Trying to rationalize aggy thinking is a waste of time. We are so much in their head they will take any kind of rumors and make them facts in their beliefs and arguments. They know they are little brother but use anything to argue against it. They make their own jokes.
Did you notice not one fan here mentioned the QB king commitment, which is a big pick up for them, because we don’t care. We worry about ourselves, not cow town. We just celebrate what we got, Broughton.

Now go have a good craft beer and nice steak, and be healthy so you don’t have to worry about that colonoscopy.
Hook Em

 

[hillcountryhorn63697005]

Eh, congrats to the aggys for getting King and for not going the kyler and johnny route again.

HOOK EM HORNS!

 

[q1w2e3]

Death, taxes, Aggy delusion and obsession with Texas. It’s nothing new and will never change.

 

[LonghornMM]

aggy is the most insecure fanbase in college sports. Them obsessing over what daddy is doing over in Austin is as sure as the sun rising every morning. Never argue with idiots. You'll lose every time.

 

[outhereincali]

Yes I have. Aggy argument is that there are 3 star recruits out there and once texas makes them an offer, they magically become a 4 star recruit. And after they sign with Texas, they get magically upgraded again to a 5 star recruit.

Actually the opposite is true. The 24/7 people are shamelessly pro SEC. 6 5* kids from TX and according to them 4 of them signed with SEC schools 3 of them to a&m. And according to 24/7 TX has yet to sign a 5* player in the Herman era. Those aggies should stop thinking about TX start worrying about Clemson.

 

[DHHorn]

They live in a fantasy world where everything is a conspiracy against them to hold them down and everything they achieve or do is the greatest thing ever, but they believe no one wants to give them their deserved credit because everyone is too scared they will awaken the sleeping giant. Aggy compares anything and everything to Texas because they historically were the little brother school in Texas and want more than anything to be acknowledged as an equal.

Reality is that they are simply not that big of a deal to draw much attention from around the country, and do not garner much interest from casual fans that do not have a dog in the fight. They have nice facilities, get good players, have a good coach, and have a large alumni. Yet they still can't get past the little man syndrome. UT must have really done a number on them in the past and now it is passed down from generation to generation.

 

[LonghornMM]

They live in a fantasy world where everything is a conspiracy against them to hold them down and everything they achieve or do is the greatest thing ever, but they believe no one wants to give them their deserved credit because everyone is too scared they will awaken the sleeping giant. Aggy compares anything and everything to Texas because they historically were the little brother school in Texas and want more than anything to be acknowledged as an equal.

Reality is that they are simply not that big of a deal to draw much attention from around the country, and do not garner much interest from casual fans that do not have a dog in the fight. They have nice facilities, get good players, have a good coach, and have a large alumni. Yet they still can't get past the little man syndrome. UT must have really done a number on them in the past and now it is passed down from generation to generation.

Nailed it!

 

[UTGrad87]

Nothing makes the bile in my gal bladder spill into my intestines faster than listening to Aggy logic. My father used to tell me . . . if you allow yourself to hang around 5 idiots . . . you're gonna be number 6 faster than you can blink. I apply that to Aggy . . . I simply try not to go there anymore because I don't ever want to think like them . . . if one can call what they do thinking??

Furthermore, my dad used to say as well . . . a child always blames others, a MAN takes responsibility for himself and his actions. Aggy's are children . . . blame Texas for everything and never own up to their own nonsense!! Good God, they drove away 2 - 5 star QB's a couple years back.

 

[Bwilk55]

Thanks for all the kind words y'all. haha. Like I said, just something to get out of my head so it doesn't keep annoying me.

I may come back to this thread periodically when I see something egregious just so I can post what would be my response in a place where I don't have to subsequently argue with an aggy

 

[GuaranteedFresh!]

I have quite a few aggy alum/fan friends that are all around awesome people except for when anything cfb comes up.

It's like a key word to a police k9 that flips the switch to instilled insanity.

I have no problem discussing UT fb shortcomings and areas where obvious improvements are needed during the good times and the bad. Aggy bros....... no chance at all.

 

[Longyac]

Credit to cafe society at surly-

It's as if there's a limbo bar of existential imbecility that aggy never has trouble sliding under.

 

[Belldozer1]

I have quite a few aggy alum/fan friends that are all around awesome people except for when anything cfb comes up.

It's like a key word to a police k9 that flips the switch to instilled insanity.

I have no problem discussing UT fb shortcomings and areas where obvious improvements are needed during the good times and the bad. Aggy bros....... no chance at all.

I have quite a few Ag friends/work friends that are all good guys. However I did see a young girl at the feed store the other day with her parents, she was probably 13 or so, but she was wearing an Aggie shirt that said something like “.....and they said we couldn’t compete in the SEC...”. I thought that was interesting.

 

[Longyac]

^^^
Outside of JFF's Heisman year they are .500 in conference play in the 6 seasons since.

In the six seasons before JFF they were .500 in conference play in the Big 12.

Take out the team Mike Sherman built and they are sub .500 in both conferences over that time as they own the best aggy record in both conferences.

 

[cml7374]

"Yes I have. Aggy argument is that there are 3 star recruits out there and once texas makes them an offer, they magically become a 4 star recruit. And after they sign with Texas, they get magically upgraded again to a 5 star recruit."

Well the Aggys I actually talk to say that Jimbo magically upgrades all their 3star recruits to 4 and 5 star status.....in Jimbo they trust. I know.....I know.....you look at that Aggy class and see a lot of 3 stars and think "how the hell are they gonna compete in the SEC when everyone who is relevant in that conference takes 4 and 5 stars." Thank goodness Jimbo "upgrades" those 3 stars.

 

[LonghornMM]

aggy thinking that they "compete" or matter in the $EC.

Besides Alabama, the whole conference is vastly overrated anyway, and a&m still is nothing more than a .500 team there. They're legends in their own minds.

 

[q1w2e3]

Technically all the teams in a conference “compete”. But for A&M that means .500, middle to bottom of the pack, and every five years or so upset a big dog...whether it’s SEC or Big 12.

 

[HornsRuleU]

I just needed a place to vent about some of the things I see posted on aggy message boards. It is self inflicted sure, but ...

Before I start:
- I am not really interested in arguing with an aggies about these things. ...
- That said, I have a hard time not chiming in and refuting some of the stuff they post. It is often factually inaccurate, or opinions/rumors that they start using as facts.
- I just needed to get some of this out and maybe get some rational feedback

Poor logic, conspiracy thinking, and passionate delusions aren't limited to sports, football or Aggies. I see it all the time, in various arenas, including ones we're forbidden from discussing here.

 

[q1w2e3]

Poor logic, conspiracy thinking, and passionate delusions aren't limited to sports, football or Aggies. I see it all the time, in various arenas, including ones we're forbidden from discussing here.

Trump?

 

[HornsRuleU]

Trump?

No comment, but I'll say this: I see this sort of foolish behavior in people whom I mostly agree with, and very often in people I mostly disagree with. I see it happen in religion, politics and sports. Occasionally, I see it in myself.

As my wife says, "People be crazy."

 

[Son of Wasatch]

No comment, but I'll say this: I see this sort of foolish behavior in people whom I mostly agree with, and very often in people I mostly disagree with. I see it happen in religion, politics and sports. Occasionally, I see it in myself.

As my wife says, "People be crazy."

couldn't have said it better. For some reason people have forgotten how to be tolerant and kind.

 

[HornsRuleU]

Tolerant, kind, balanced, comprehensively inquisitive, evidence-based, logical, able to prioritize issues, able to recognize propaganda from factual reporting...

People have forgotten all those things, or maybe we had a shortage of that all along? People listen to their own group, exclusively, and aren't even aware of the facts (and fake "facts") that others are listening to. America is now tending towards opposite extremes, and even distrusts the middle! Everyone who doesn't agree with you becomes a "heretic" or is "anti-American," or just nuts or an idiot. It's sad.

How many of us actually read the Mueller Report, e.g.? It's eye-opening, but few of us have read it. We've all learned to read short tweets and text messages...

 

[Oldmanastro]

Tolerant, kind, balanced, comprehensively inquisitive, evidence-based, logical, able to prioritize issues, able to recognize propaganda from factual reporting...

People have forgotten all those things, or maybe we had a shortage of that all along? People listen to their own group, exclusively, and aren't even aware of the facts (and fake "facts") that others are listening to. America is now tending towards opposite extremes, and even distrusts the middle! Everyone who doesn't agree with you becomes a "heretic" or is "anti-American," or just nuts or an idiot. It's sad.

How many of us actually read the Mueller Report, e.g.? It's eye-opening, but few of us have read it. We've all learned to read short tweets and text messages...

I don’t have the time, can you give cliff notes or will it get the thread locked down?

 

[Son of Wasatch]

Tolerant, kind, balanced, comprehensively inquisitive, evidence-based, logical, able to prioritize issues, able to recognize propaganda from factual reporting...

People have forgotten all those things, or maybe we had a shortage of that all along? People listen to their own group, exclusively, and aren't even aware of the facts (and fake "facts") that others are listening to. America is now tending towards opposite extremes, and even distrusts the middle! Everyone who doesn't agree with you becomes a "heretic" or is "anti-American," or just nuts or an idiot. It's sad.

How many of us actually read the Mueller Report, e.g.? It's eye-opening, but few of us have read it. We've all learned to read short tweets and text messages...

I have completely shut down my social media accounts, and now my life is much better for it. Well, I'm still doing Longhorn Social media obviously. But that doesn't count, here I'm allowed to be unbalanced, unkind, non-tolerant, and have little use for evidence-based logic. And nothing is more anti-american than blOwU and aggsy. I read that that the Mueller Report mentioned that OU Sucks a record 16 times. They called the aggsy the most brain washed cult in all of college football.

 

[clob94]

Tolerant, kind, balanced, comprehensively inquisitive, evidence-based, logical, able to prioritize issues, able to recognize propaganda from factual reporting...

People have forgotten all those things, or maybe we had a shortage of that all along? People listen to their own group, exclusively, and aren't even aware of the facts (and fake "facts") that others are listening to. America is now tending towards opposite extremes, and even distrusts the middle! Everyone who doesn't agree with you becomes a "heretic" or is "anti-American," or just nuts or an idiot. It's sad.

How many of us actually read the Mueller Report, e.g.? It's eye-opening, but few of us have read it. We've all learned to read short tweets and text messages...

460 some pages before I tapped out. Saw nothing in there that was blatant. Saw some shady sh!t but, welcome to politics.

Politics has become a blood sport with both sides keeping us at each other's throat by using the media as a tool to do so. The quicker we as a populace learn to understand that, the quicker we will reject the current form of the media, or the quicker we will set to killing each other.

We've become a nano-wave culture. We passed "microwave" culture about ten years ago. People are instant gratification right now. Want to buy something? Don't drive to the store and try it out first-- that's too old fashioned. Just order it on Amazon and have a drone fly it over. If it doesn't fit, just send it back for a different size. Want to have sex with a girl? Get on tinder and swipe for two minutes. No luck on tinder? Go to pornhub and rub one out and the urge passes.
Don't like this headline? Grab your phone and find a headline in 30 seconds that contradicts it. Theres no such thing as truth in journalism anymore. it's all supposition, speculation, allegations, opinions, slanted agendas, media mogul money making bubbles---- they are simply after your eyes so they can charge their sponsors more money for commercial airtime.

We are cattle in this country. Cattle used for THEIR benefit. Not ours. And like most cattle, eventually you get given a designated job by your owner. You either get milked, you get used to breed, you get rejected because you're sick or weak, or you get fattened and sent to SLAUGHTER.

What really blows the top of my skull off is that we have it So good here economically, that we're spoiled. We are the most spoiled people on earth. Period. We take things like running water for granted. Ever been to a place without running water? It sucks. Ever been to a place with no supermarket? It sucks. Ever been to a place with no gas stations? Yup, it sucks too.

For those of you that have never left this country and seen the abject poverty in places like africa, India, much of the middle east, asia-- etc--- I dot care if you live a trailer like Bell claims to but doesn't really, you are RICH AS FVCK by comparison.

The sooner we all realize these stupid ass problems of gay this or black that or white this or disrespectful that is no where near as important as "i wonder where I'm going to get my water from today----- so I can survive" then the sooner we will realize that we are fvcking spoiled. And when you're spoiled, just like spoiled children, you find inconsequential things to bitch about.

 

[Son of Wasatch]

460 some pages before I tapped out. Saw nothing in there that was blatant. Saw some shady sh!t but, welcome to politics.

Politics has become a blood sport with both sides keeping us at each other's throat by using the media as a tool to do so. The quicker we as a populace learn to understand that, the quicker we will reject the current form of the media, or the quicker we will set to killing each other.

We've become a nano-wave culture. We passed "microwave" culture about ten years ago. People are instant gratification right now. Want to buy something? Don't drive to the store and try it out first-- that's too old fashioned. Just order it on Amazon and have a drone fly it over. If it doesn't fit, just send it back for a different size. Want to have sex with a girl? Get on tinder and swipe for two minutes. No luck on tinder? Go to pornhub and rub one out and the urge passes.
Don't like this headline? Grab your phone and find a headline in 30 seconds that contradicts it. Theres no such thing as truth in journalism anymore. it's all supposition, speculation, allegations, opinions, slanted agendas, media mogul money making bubbles---- they are simply after your eyes so they can charge their sponsors more money for commercial airtime.

We are cattle in this country. Cattle used for THEIR benefit. Not ours. And like most cattle, eventually you get given a designated job by your owner. You either get milked, you get used to breed, you get rejected because you're sick or weak, or you get fattened and sent to SLAUGHTER.

What really blows the top of my skull off is that we have it So good here economically, that we're spoiled. We are the most spoiled people on earth. Period. We take things like running water for granted. Ever been to a place without running water? It sucks. Ever been to a place with no supermarket? It sucks. Ever been to a place with no gas stations? Yup, it sucks too.

For those of you that have never left this country and seen the abject poverty in places like africa, India, much of the middle east, asia-- etc--- I dot care if you live a trailer like Bell claims to but doesn't really, you are RICH AS FVCK by comparison.

The sooner we all realize these stupid ass problems of gay this or black that or white this or disrespectful that is no where near as important as "i wonder where I'm going to get my water from today----- so I can survive" then the sooner we will realize that we are fvcking spoiled. And when you're spoiled, just like spoiled children, you find inconsequential things to bitch about.

This is literally the only country in the world where you you 300 lb homeless people. Every day I drive off to work I go through an intersection where there is this same dude begging for money, he is about 350 lbs. Obviously he has some issues, but eating isn't one of them.

I'm at the point where I think there should be two America's. A big-boy America and a baby America. Big boy America is pure capitalism, no handouts, no socialized anything. You come here to win or you go to baby America where everything is socialized. You get a job handed to you, you get the same salary as everyone else. Free housing, free food. You are never rich, but you are also never poor.

Pick the one that is right for you.

 

[HornsRuleU]

I don’t have the time, can you give cliff notes or will it get the thread locked down?

I'd suggest looking online yourself for such a summary, from multiple sources of opposing persuasions. (Why trust me?)

See what liberals and conservatives say about it, in other words. (Then check the report itself to see if they're on target.) This Mueller Report summary on Vox.com isn't a bad start, as far as I know.

This is worth your time, as a patriotic American.

 

[Son of Wasatch]

When Democrats control the White house, Republicans are constantly yelling fowl play. When Republicans are in the White house, Democrats are yelling fowl play.

It's hard to to take either seriously. Neither side cares about the middle, and I happen to be in the middle. Yes, I have a lot of conservative views, but I also have some views that are liberal. It just so happens that the things that are most important to me are conservative in nature.

The one thing that is lost in all of this is civilized discussion. Neither side wishes to talk, they view the opposite side as the enemy. What happens when two sides wish to dominate each other? They fight, and it won't be long before the fight is in the streets.

So should I read that report? No. 99% of what the President of the United States does won't affect my life, so why waste my time.

 

[UTGrad87]

When Democrats control the White house, Republicans are constantly yelling fowl play. When Republicans are in the White house, Democrats are yelling fowl play.

It's hard to to take either seriously. Neither side cares about the middle, and I happen to be in the middle. Yes, I have a lot of conservative views, but I also have some views that are liberal. It just so happens that the things that are most important to me are conservative in nature.

The one thing that is lost in all of this is civilized discussion. Neither side wishes to talk, they view the opposite side as the enemy. What happens when two sides wish to dominate each other? They fight, and it won't be long before the fight is in the streets.

So should I read that report? No. 99% of what the President of the United States does won't affect my life, so why waste my time.

I couldn't agree more Wasatch . . . prolly because I'm the same way . . . some lib views other cons views. As a pragmatic who just wants problems solved the most efficient way possible, I find the win at all costs political environment quite nauseating.

 

[HornsRuleU]

When Democrats control the White house, Republicans are constantly yelling fowl play. When Republicans are in the White house, Democrats are yelling fowl play.

It's hard to to take either seriously. Neither side cares about the middle, and I happen to be in the middle. Yes, I have a lot of conservative views, but I also have some views that are liberal. It just so happens that the things that are most important to me are conservative in nature.

The one thing that is lost in all of this is civilized discussion. Neither side wishes to talk, they view the opposite side as the enemy. What happens when two sides wish to dominate each other? They fight, and it won't be long before the fight is in the streets.

So should I read that report? No. 99% of what the President of the United States does won't affect my life, so why waste my time.

Interesting. I agree on the issue of political extremism and that both sides have their failures. I'd say, though, that there are manufactured scandals and real ones; don't let the fake ones lull you into ignoring the serious ones.

Also, the federal and state governments do have a lot of influence on our lives. Not on how we choose to live within our homes, hopefully, but on our air & water quality, what's legal and what's not, how companies are allowed to do business, and what ought to be free vs. what really does need to be regulated. If you believe in the American experiment, it's important to know that our POTUS was elected fairly and without foreign interference, or unfair online interference. Was the electorate unduly influenced to vote a certain way, by sophisticated smears & other lies? Or influenced to stay home? That's going on around the world, and not just in Trinidad & Tobago. It went on in Brexit, and both Obama and Trump used (sneaky?) online methods to get elected. The Great Hack on Netflix is worth your time, IMO.

We're alike in that we have views on both sides. It never made sense to me that one side would have all the thoughtful answers. Likewise, I tend to believe that those who claim to agree 100% with one side are (1) unwise and/or gullible, or (2) feigning to do so for political expediency, or (3) part of the tiny minority that happens to agree 100% with a party.

The odds that one party has all the answers and isn't wrong on any matter seems to be about zero. Ditto for denominations or religions, and for news sources, or individuals like myself.

Anyway, cheers bro.

 

[Son of Wasatch]

If you believe in the American experiment, it's important to know that our POTUS was elected fairly and without foreign interference, or unfair online interference. Was the electorate unduly influenced to vote a certain way, by sophisticated smears & other lies? Or influenced to stay home? That's going on around the world, and not just in Trinidad & Tobago. It went on in Brexit, and both Obama and Trump used (sneaky?) online methods to get elected. The Great Hack on Netflix is worth your time, IMO.

My biggest problem with that is we have foreign governments giving money to one side in exchange for favorable treatment. We have foreign governments buying commercial time to persuade voters to who they feel benefits them.

The number one thing lost in the Russian scandal was that Hilary was dumb enough to put her email on a easily hacked server because she didn't want anyone to know all the backroom deals she was doing. I'm actually of the opinion that the reason the Democrats are pointing the figure so hard at Trump is because they don't want any fingers pointing at Hilary for her stupidity.

We're alike in that we have views on both sides. It never made sense to me that one side would have all the thoughtful answers. Likewise, I tend to believe that those who claim to agree 100% with one side are (1) unwise and/or gullible, or (2) feigning to do so for political expediency, or (3) part of the tiny minority that happens to agree 100% with a party.

My preferred vernacular is Sheep. Or lemmings if you fear getting the aggys too aroused

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